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5841897 No.5841897 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys think of Joyce's Dubliners?

>> No.5841908

>>5841897
You know, even /gif/ has rules that enforce the OP to actually make significant contributions to their own thread. I know you're trying to start a conversation, but this is a pretty pathetic and bare-bones way to do it.

>> No.5841909

>>5841897
>foreign /lit/

>> No.5841924

Los muertos, or the death, is the best one, and it´s still my favourite piece of literature by Joyce

>> No.5842045

>>5841908
shut up tosser

>> No.5842063

I liked it, but its kind of deterred me from reading anything else by Joyce as I barely managed to follow half the stories in Dubliners.

>> No.5842067

>>5842045
Is that a command to shut up something named 'tosser' ?

>> No.5842069

>>5842067
>americans

>> No.5842072

was it just me or did you guys find a lot of these stories have an incredibly abrupt ending?

>> No.5842074

>>5842069
>Doesn't know that was a comment to point out a comma was missing

>> No.5842084

>>5842069
Such stupidity....
You never fail to amaze me, /lit/

>> No.5842090

I haven't read all of them, but for what I've read they were awesome. The Stranger is a flagrant ripoff of the Sisters only Camus made it shit, French Fucking Depressive Cunt

>> No.5842099

>>5842074
>>5842084
>americans

>> No.5842118

>>5842099
Did you really have to think for 12 minutes before coming up with such a meaningless response?

>> No.5842140

>>5842118
>americans

>> No.5842148

>>5842090
>The Stranger is a flagrant ripoff of the Sisters
Elaborate, I didn't see any connection apart from, well, a parent-like person being dead.

>> No.5842302

>>5842148
Self-harassment over feeling no grief, robotic/absurd actions of others (the sisters, in Joyce's case; the man and his dog, the sexually abusive neighbour, and the court system, in Camus'), and a final scene for looking for beauty (the flowers, in Joyce's case; the woman's face on the wall, in Camus') - they were literally the exact same story, only Camus drew it out longer and was more of a depressing cunt about it.

>> No.5842303

I've never read it, much like most of the books discussed here.

I still say they are shit no matter what.

>> No.5842321

>>5842303
I chuckled.

>> No.5842572

really boring.

>> No.5843291

>>5842572
pleb as fuck

>> No.5843319

>>5843291
>likes most pleb short story collection
>calling others pleb
lel

>> No.5843369

>>5842302
>Sisters: story about how religious practices are stifling, mundane, and tedious.
>Stranger: story about how life is pointless and futile.
Your comparison of the two is erroneous.

>> No.5843375

>>5843369
No it isn't, yours is.

>> No.5843380

>>5843375
Well, the Stranger is more depressing, in fairness, and Joyce leaves room for hope what with his protagonist being just a boy, but the mechanics of the story are basically the same otherwise.

>> No.5843402

And that isn't what the Sisters is about, at all. That's such a terrible reading of it.

>> No.5843410

>>5843375
>>5843380
>>5843402
You have problems

>> No.5843432

>>5843410
Go fuck yourself, retard.

>> No.5843446

The Sisters is actually full of neat little tricks, too. I'm not quite sure what to make of its ending myself.

>> No.5844854

>>5842072
Probably due to the epiphanies

>> No.5845211
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5845211

>>5842303
my sides are on vacation

>> No.5845232

>>5841897
The very fucking first page made me cringe.

>It had always sounded strangely in my ears, like the word gnomon in the Euclid and the word simony in the Catechism.

Literally fucking kill yourself James this adds nothing but tells us you've heard of esoteric things you pretentious twat.

>> No.5845238

>>5843369
>erroneous
Did you use this word to add authority to your opinion?

>> No.5845251

>>5842090
>>5842302
>>5843402
>>5843432
>>5843446
your posts really are cancer

>> No.5845276

It's the only one of his books that gets to me at the core. I know it's not his best or most significant, but it's the one I can go back to and continue to enjoy. Portrait and Ulysses I can admire for their effects, technique, and contributions to the canon, but they don't warm me the way Dubliners has, at parts.

My favorite two stories were A Painful Case and Counterparts. I thought The Dead was mostly boring and saved by an exemplary, pitch perfect ending.

>> No.5845303

>>5845232
This wouldn't have been too pretentious at the time for the people who would have read Dubliners at the time. That is people who went to Jesuit school, which was common in Ireland at the time for people educated past grade school.

A lot of things that seem pretentious in older books in general, would have been common knowledge among people the author might have reasonably suspected would read his book at the time.

>> No.5845307

>>5845303
Why the fuck did I use the phrase "at the time" so much there? I'm not even drunk.

>> No.5845477

>>5845276
>The Dead
>boring

the mundanity is a necessary mechanism in making the ending so evocative.

>> No.5845599

The style was good but I felt as if most of the stories were going over my head. Particularly Araby and the one where he skips school with a friend and ends up somewhere in a field. I still haven't read The Dead though so I should probably get on that.

>> No.5846561

>>5841924
I agree completely. The last sentence of the collection is still my favorite single-sentence of all the fiction i have read.

>> No.5846568

>>5846561
"His soul swooned softly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.”

The whole last page is like this. A fucking master. I don't know why he had to go and write the gimmicky giants he wrote afterwards. His quiet prose is, in my opinion, his greatest.

>> No.5846576

>>5845599

Pretty sure in the latter one the main character was nearly abducted but didn't realise it.