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Have you established your 2015 reading material yet?

>> No.5814870
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5814870

>that mirror

>> No.5814871

Dirty fan fics

>> No.5814899

I actually do have a decent idea of what I'm going for next year.

Complete Carver/O'Connor, Maybe Mencken's Days Trilogy, some noir classics, The Border Trilogy, various NYRB and penguin titles, Debt the first 5000 years, the list could go on

>> No.5814918

>>5814870
hmm, you're right. I should probably clean it. I need to buy something that wont' leave streaks and will leave my mirror looking it's best.

>> No.5814924

>>5814868
I think I'll be reading a lot more non-fiction next year, and a lot more poetry as well.

>> No.5814931

MOst of the /lit/ starter kit. It hsan't dissapointed me yet.

>> No.5814965

Probably will start with European Golden Ages, Renaissance etc. Some more pre-Kantian philosophy. Hopefully some art history books, drawing books. A focus on English poetry. More modernism.
Going to get back into watching film so I think that's going to cut my time down a lot. We'll see.

>> No.5814979

>>5814899

I just completed O'Connor recently (assuming you mean Flannery), she's just incredible. What's your favourite stuff from her so far? Her short stories are far superior to her novels I think. I'm also surprised that Wise Blood is her most famous work, I think The Violent Bear it Away is much better

>> No.5814990

>>5814868

Might do Proust. I definitely plan on doing it a lot of long books though. Hoping to start the year off with Middlemarch, 2666, and Anna Karenina.

>> No.5814992

W-why do you have four copies of the same book?

>> No.5814993

>>5814931
Just wait till you get to American Psycho. Ellis a shit.

>> No.5815001

>>5814992
to troll /lit/. Why else? First to fall for the b8. If I was a mod I would ban you.

>> No.5815002

>>5814993
Wasn't that bad. Pretty creative.

>> No.5815011

>>5815001
Really? That's the reason?

>> No.5815018

>>5815011
Oh I'm not him. That is the reason I am assuming though. People did spend money on that Tundra shit, so we already know people are willing to drop money for this.

>> No.5815019

>>5814993

I haven't read Ellis but he really just seems like a complete douche bag. All of his actions on twitter suggest the height of arrogance, which looks especially bad because all of his books sound so edgy and conventional (whoa kids in college do drugs and booze throughout their waking lives? omg!)

>> No.5815022

Jesus get a new toothbrush already.

>> No.5815034

>>5814868
Hey, we have the same razor.

>> No.5815037

>>5814979
I've only read a collection of some of her nonfiction so far, gonna try to get through the Library of America's edition of her works though.

>> No.5815055

>>5815037

Nice, I haven't even read her nonfiction. I'd recommend you start off with her short stuff before her novels. I would especially recommend you start with the story "Everything That Rises Must Converge." Prepare to have your mind blown though mate.

Also you should watch the movie Short Cuts when you're finished with Carver. It's a loose adaptation of 10 of his stories

>> No.5815064

>>5814868
Do people actually plan this out? I just keep a collection of books to be read on my nook and go through them as I finish them. Hanging out here and having alot of interests I never run out. If I plan it out too much like let's say "I'm going to work through the entire of works of X author" I get bored with their style and the plan falls apart anyways.

>> No.5815075

>>5815055
Sounds good to me, I'll definitely check out that movie too.
I've heard that new movie Birdman, has to do with the main character writing a screenplay of one of Carver's short stories.

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>>5814868

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>>5815079
Or alternatively, for the patrician.

>> No.5815097

>>5815075

yeah I've been meaning to check that out but I haven't got around to it. It looks kind of Oscar bait-y but it's shot by Lubezki and apparently it's made to look as though the entire film is one long take so at the very least it'll look great.

>> No.5815100

>>5815086
>IT'S FUNNY CUZ THERE WUZ FOOTNOETS IN TEH BOOK XD

>> No.5815103

>>5815100
Were, not was.
You need to learn your grammar, son.

>> No.5815115

dfw killed himself because people kept on making fun of his footnotes

>> No.5815117

>>5815097
I was going to see it not that long ago but I forgot about it, I don't even know if it's in theaters anymore, so I guess I'll wait awhile. I think I know what you mean by Oscarbait-y though.

>> No.5815119

>>5815115
It's gimmicky.

>> No.5815135

i dont know why people give him a hard time for the footnotes, lots of fiction writers had used footnotes before him. he just chose to be another writer who used them.

>> No.5815146

>>5814868
Yep
Hyperion by Holderlin
Malte ecc by rilke
An Italian work about hegel
A book of jokes about Jews
Infinite jest by foster Wallace

>> No.5815169

Footnotes weren't even a meme until very recently. People would complain about them occasionally but the putting footnotes in posts and image macros and shit is a recent phenomenon. I suppose plebs wanted an easy and uncreative way to mock DFW while also demonstrating their familiarity with his material and quirks, and perhaps a way that is at least partly affectionate and shows they are "down" with the walrus.

>> No.5815177

>>5815169
you're beyond a pleb if you cant read dfw. i'd say you're close to illiterate. he's not a hard author to read.

>> No.5815179

>Finish East of Eden
>Follow it with Cien Años de Soledad

>Finish the Tanakh
>Follow it with Guide for the Perplexed

>Finish The Personal MBA
>Follow it with The Intelligent Investor

>Finished Intellectuals and Race last week, probably going to follow it with The Communist Manifesto, so I'll likely be reading it into 2015.

>> No.5815204

>>5815177
It depends. In some articles and essays it isn't obvious, but anyway that's because of the topics (eg advanced maths)

>> No.5815226

>>5815177
I never implied he was hard to read.
I called them plebs because they can't come up with clever or non-meme ways to make fun of DFW, and they generally can't imitate his writing so they think just throwing in footnotes means they're mocking his style.

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>>5815169
>Footnotes weren't even a meme until very recently.
This picture is at least seven years old. People have been poking fun at his footnotes for much longer than that.

>> No.5815235

>>5815226
yeah i didnt mean you, i meant "one"

>> No.5815242

>>5815227
One webcomic or the occasional joke doesn't make something a meme. I'm talking about the explosion of footnote posts and such in the last couple months or so. I think I remember the thread when it started, though I guess I can't be sure that was what started it and not an earlier thread I missed.

>> No.5815245

>>5815227
>that webcomic
Too bad the author went insane.

>> No.5815272

Get a new toothbrush for god's sake.

>> No.5815278

>be /trv/ler
>traveling trough East/central Asia
>tfw only english books in local bookshops are from starter kit
>Also life of Pi, Life of Pi everywhere

Damn I guess I have to get on of these amazon bookmachines after all

>> No.5815285

>>5815278
Well you COULD just read them on your laptop, but yeah, digital books are amazing.

>> No.5815287

>>5815245
Didn't he get a sex change operation?

>> No.5815307

Who the hell leaves his books in a sink?

>> No.5815314

>>5814990
I started In Search of Lost Time earlier this year. Currently partway through book 4. I'll continue the series into 2015, as I've been pausing and reading other books occasionally, because reading Proust continuously is like eating cake for every meal.

>> No.5815329

>>5815314

How has it been? Is the quality starting to slump? I've heard the first half is substantially better than the second half

>> No.5815335

>>5815100
underrated post

There I went out and said it. I like the footnote jokes as much as the next guy but they get spammed like no other during DFW threads

>> No.5815338

gonna try to do some classics I never got around to and are kind of embarrassing to never have read

Moby Dick
Invisible Man
Paradise Lost
American Psycho
The Name of the Rose

gonna finish Pynchon's ouerve because I'll just have Vineland left, gonna try something by Gaddis because I've never read him either. some other misc. stuff I'll read in 2015:

White Teeth
Europe Central
2312
The Corrections
Ada, or Ardor

Might do some more Gene Wolfe if Book of the New Sun ends strongly

>> No.5815339

>>5814992
I actually had 3 at one point. Ordered (and paid for) one from amazon and they sent me two by mistake. Then my aunt got me another for Christmas. I gave away the extras to a friend and my brother, neither of whom actually read it.

>> No.5815341

>>5815338

Invisible Man is so amazing. One of the best books about race I've read I think. Try to stay strong through the rather difficult, admittedly more dry last quarter of the book

>> No.5815351

>>5815329
The first two books were great, but the third was dominated by two overlong parties and didn't have the same quality as the first two books. The fourth book started with another party, but I've just reached the point where the narrator is about to revisit Combray, I'm hoping things pick up.

>> No.5815352

>>5814868

Kakel III, Carroll P. The American West and the Nazi East: A Comparative and Interpretive Perspective. New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2011.

Kallis, Aristotle A., ed. The Fascism Reader. London: Routledge, 2003.

Kalvoda, Josef. The Genesis of Czechoslovakia. Boulder, CO: Columbia University Press, 1986.

Kennan, George F. From Prague After Munich: Diplomatic Papers, 1938-1940,. Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 1968.

Large, David Clay. Between Two Fires: Europe's Path in the 1930s. New York: Norton, 1990.

Latynski, Maya, ed. Reappraising the Munich Pact: Continental Perspectives. Washington, D.C.: Woodrow Wilson Center Press, 1992.

Leitz, Christian. Nazi Foreign Policy, 1933-1941: The Road to Global War. London: Routledge, 2004.

Liulevicius, Vejas G. The German Myth of the East: 1800 to the Present. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2009.

Loewenheim, Francis L. Peace or Appeasement? Hitler, Chamberlain, and the Munich Crisis. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1965.

Lukacs, Georg. The Destruction of Reason. Atlantic Highlands, N.J.: Humanities Press, 1981.

Lukes, Igor. Czechoslovakia Between Stalin and Hitler: The Diplomacy of Edvard Benes in the 1930s. New York: Oxford University Press, 1996.

Luza, Radomir. The Transfer of the Sudeten Germans: A Study of Czech-German Relations, 1933-1962. New York: New York University Press, 1964.

Manela, Erez. The Wilsonian Moment: Self-Determination and the International Origins of Anticolonial Nationalism. New York: Oxford University Press, 2007.

Masaryk, Alice Garrigue, and Ruth Crawford Mitchell. Alice Garrigue Masaryk, 1879-1966: Her Life as Recorded in Her Own Words and by Her Friends. Pittsburgh: University of Pittsburgh Press, 1980.

Masaryk, T. G., and Karel Apek. Talks With T.G. Masaryk. North Haven, CT: Catbird Press, 1995.

Masaryk, T. G., and Rene Wellek. The Meaning of Czech History. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 1974.

Feast your eyes on a preliminary and partial bibliography of cutting edge research (not really) into the nature of the lebensraum ideology of the Nazis as carried out in the annexation of Czechoslovakia in 1938.
I apologize for the pretentiousness
tl;dr

>> No.5815359

>>5815352
ho lee shit dude

>> No.5815360

>>5815338
Why is not having read those books embarrassing?

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>>5814868

>> No.5815375

>>5815360
because I'm 27 and I was an English major and I consider myself generally pretty well-read.

they're not universally read like Gatsby or whatever but I still hang out with a lot of people who read or were English majors and those are all pretty big holes

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>>5814868
The first part of the year will be spent reading and rereading certain books. I'm going to call it my late Prussian Empire phase. It might be historically inaccurate, but that's what I'm going to call it.

Starting with:
Mann
Kafka
Schultz
Hesse
Musil
etc.

Suggestions are welcome.

>> No.5815394

>>5815381

Read Ferdydurke by Gombrowicz

>> No.5815400

>>5815375
They're not really embarrassing to have not read if you only have a BA.

>> No.5815403

>>5815375

in all fairness, most English majors barely read any books in their own time when they're at school and then read even less once they've graduated

>> No.5815412

>>5815394
I've never heard of that book--and that is why I continue to come to /lit/. Many thanks!

>> No.5815429

>>5815227
>aww hamburgers
What's the basis for this? Did he say that?

>> No.5815434

>>5815400
>>5815403
well thank you my friends

>> No.5815445

>>5815434

what'd you end up doing with your BA anyway?

>> No.5815524

Books I'll read next year:

V. by Pynchon
Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchcon
The Unbearable Lightness of Being by Milan Kundera
East of Eden by Steinbeck
Grapes of Wrath by Steinbeck
The Pearl by Steinbeck
The First Philosophers: The Presocratics and Sophists (Oxford World's Classics)
The Trial of Socrates by I.F. Stone
The Open Society and Its Enemies by Karl R. Popper
All or most of the Platonic dialogues
The Trojan War: A New History by Strauss
The Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer
Invisible Man by Ellison

Maybe some other stuff

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2666
The Savage Detectives
The Border Trilogy
The Painted Bird
The Kindly Ones
Catch-22
Mason & Dixon
Against the Day
Vineland
The Time of The Assassins
The Idiot
Crime and Punishment
Anna Karenina
The Brother's Karamazov
The Recognitions
Steppenwolf
The Great Gatsby
Underworld
Mao II
Absalom, Absalom!
The Buzzing
The Verificationist
Invisible Cities
Under the Volcano
East of Eden
The Grapes of Wrath
The Plague
A Farewell to Arms
For Whom the Bell Tolls
My French Whore
White Noise
Sewer, Gas & Electric
The Tunnel
Foundation Trilogy
Dune

>> No.5816771

Metamorphoses, Don Quixote, Paradise Lost and War and Peace are the main "essentials" that I now feel I've put off for too long. Very much looking forward to finally getting to grips with Paradise Lost.

>> No.5816778

>>5814868
Goddamn son, clean your fucking mirror and fucet.
Kinda like the skulls, though.

>> No.5816782

Vandermeer - Annihilation
- Authority
Hesse - Steppenwolf
- Siddhartha
Nabokov - Lolita
- Ada
Pynchon - Bleeding Edge
- Gravity's Rainbow
Gaddis - The Recognitions
Moers - The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear
Tao Lin - Taipei
Bolano - The Savage Detectives
Zeta Acosta - Autobiography of a Brown Buffalo

>> No.5816788

>>5815339
If I'm your friend, sorry I've been super busy but I promise to start it in January at the latest.

>> No.5816803

>>5816729
Everything I read this year is in your list for next year.

I might read the others next year.

>> No.5816808

>>5816803
Anything that was a waste of time so I might skip it?

>> No.5816865

>>5816808
Nope. All I'll say is get Brothers Karamazov in hardback, because it's got phenomenal re-read value.

>> No.5816866

Plan to start with The Savage Detectives, unless I manage to read in what little we still have left of 14.

Anyway, these are my main focuses, though it might change:

Euclides da Cunha:
-Os Sertões
Le Pinecone:
- Mason & Dixon (maybe Vineland and Bleeding Edge)
Marx:
-Civil War on France
Jorge Amado:
-Tocaia Grande
-Gabriella Cravo e Canela
Georges Perec:
-A Void
-Life, a User's Manual
Julio Cortázar:
-Rayuela
Eco:
-La Strutura Assentte
-Apocalittici e integrati
Danto:
-Transfiguration of Commonplace
-The Artworld

Accepting recomendations on contemporary aesthetics

>> No.5816903

-Breakfast of Champions
-Pan Tadeusz
-Crime & Punishment
-Death of a River Guide
-The Sickness Unto Death
-Fathers and Sons
-The Master and Margarita
-Blood Meridian
-Memoirs of Hadrian
-To the Lighthouse
-Mason and Dixon
-The Death of Ivan Ilyich

Any thoughts? Anything that's not worth it, or incredible that's worth prioritising?

>> No.5816921

>>5814868
christian literature, i really want to read more of that.
i'm also planning on reading more faulkner.

>> No.5816932

something like this:

>Sayonara, Gangsters
>The Trial
>Vineland
>Infinite Meme
>Simulacra and Simulation
>Necesarry Illusions
>The Decameron
>Blood Meridian
>House of Memes
>A Smuggler's Bible
>Tristram Shandy
>The Divine Comedy
>Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>Iliad/Oddysey
>More Shakespear
>Sci-fi like Star Maker or A Canticle for Liebowitz.

>> No.5816983

>>5815019
Ellis is a douchebag (and a self-hating faggot at that) but his books are somewhat enjoyable to read, I'd say.
Though I suppose you have to be able to relate somehow.

>> No.5816985

>>5814868
Nice. How many of those have you read so far?

>> No.5817003

>Power of Now
>League of Extroadinary Gentlemen Omnibus
>Confederacy of Dunces
>The Centaur
>Phantom of the Opera
>The Stranger
>Meditations
>For Whom the Bell Tolls
>Thus Spoke Zarathustra
>Lolita
>Brothers Karamazov

>> No.5817013

>>5814868
Starting with Matterhorn, Jude the Obscure, 2666 (attempt 2), Jewish Antiquities by Josephus, Nostromo, and maybe All You Need is Kill

>> No.5817041

>>5817013
Jude the Obscure is really good.

>> No.5817241

>>5815086
LOL! I really, really like this picture. Where'd you find it?

>> No.5817298

I'm hoping to read most interesting Roman authors. Once I'm done with that, I assume my Spanish will be good enough to tackle Renaissance Spain.

>> No.5817309

>>5815445
I work in Hollywood and do some freelance writing as a second source of income (mostly journalism, a little for TV/film, trying to get more TV/film work).

>> No.5817322

>>5815329
>>5815351
Idiots.

>> No.5817330

>>5815381
>starting Mann and Musil in 2015
>hasn't heard of Gombrowicz
Plebs need to die

>> No.5817348

>>5817330
>reading comprehension
you are the biggest faggot on the internet

>> No.5817369

>>5817348
You're a retarded pleb that hasn't heard of Gombrowicz nor even read Mann and Musil. I may be a faggot but at least I'm not a pleb with shit taste

>> No.5817375

>>5817369
Yeah, he's such a pleb for reading Mann and Musil.

You're a cunt.

>> No.5817950

Newbie here. I assume this will take up most if not all of next year.

The illiad
The Oddysy
Some Plato and Aristotle
The Histories
Metamorphoses
Aeneid
KJV bible
Complete Shakespeare(at least most of it)

Any suggestions?

>> No.5817957

i fancy rereading lord of the rings, the hobbit, and reading the silmarillion for the first time. just have a month of solid middle earth in february or something. it'll be nice

asides from that, there's nothing in particular i have planned

>> No.5817990

>>5814868
I read Ulysses and Gravity's Rainbow this year...Ulysses was my summer, Gravity's Rainbow was my Fall....winter is going to be some lighter stuff McCarthy, Hesse probably.

Next Year will be
Mason & Dixon
2666
Underworld
House of Leaves
Infinite Jest

Those will be the big reads anyways.

>> No.5818004

>>5817990
>Underworld
>House of Leaves
>Infinite Jest

Dumbfuck.

>> No.5818008

>>5818004
DeLillo is great, m8, and DFW is at least worth trying. But yes, HoL belongs in the trash.

>> No.5818024

>>5814868
I have some Aquinas, Tolstoy, some theory on poetry and Shaeksteare...

>> No.5818113

>>5817375
That's not what I am saying at all, you obtuse cunt.

>> No.5818219

>>5814868
I've been skimping on some of the "bigger" books so my reading list so far is
2666
Anatomy of Melancholy
Anna Karenina (book 2)
Underworld
Bleak house/david copperfield
Umbrella
Middlesex
Matter

>> No.5818224

>>5818008
>house of leaves
It's a fun book to read, but what it's done is put a really complicated lock on a chest that has nothing in it.

>> No.5818956

I'm going to include what I want to start up this month
>The Oresteia
>Satyricon
>Plato's writings
>Oblomov
>Brothers Karamazov
>Tale of Two Cities
>Anna Kerenina
>Dune
>Sons and Lovers
>Tristram Shandy
>The Magus
>Lolita
>One Hundred Years Of Solitude
>The Sound and The Fury
>Light in August
>Underworld
>Invisible Cities
>On A Winter's Night A Traveler
>Paradise Lost
>Demian
>Nine Stories, Salinger
>Confederacy of Dunces
>The Elementary Particles
>Gravity's Rainbow
>Ferdydurke
>A Scanner Darkly
>Farewell To Arms
>For Whom The Bell Tolls
>The Magic Mountain
>The Road
>In Cold Blood
>The Big Sleep
>Regiment of Women
>Treatise on Human Nature
>Snow Country
>Dubliners
>something by Mishima, Sailor or Temple
Well... that's more of a list than I expected.

>> No.5818970

>>5818956
Oh and on top of that I want to finish all the books that I've never read from the /lit/ starter kit
>Of Mice and Men
>Invisible Man
>1984
>Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn
>A Cockwork Orange
>Catch 22
>Picture of Dorian Gray
>already mentioned Lolita

>> No.5818972

>>5818956

>>The Magus

i was thinking of blindbuying this but it's gotten such polarizing receptions.

>> No.5818977

>>5818972
I liked The Collector well enough, and I have a soft spot for Murakami-esque style over substance and that's the vibe the descriptions give me.

>> No.5819005

>>5815314
I read through it once a year. I know what you mean about cake. It's my favorite book hands down, but even still I have trouble going past 2-3 volumes in a row.

>>5815329
The first half seems better liked on a first reading, though really it's only parts 5 and 6, the prisoner and the fugitive, that seem like slumps for most people. Much of it has to do with how far Proust had edited/rewritten at his death. 1-4 were done in full but 5,6, and 7 he was still intending to touch up so it was left to his brother to make final changes. Since Proust had always largely known what he wanted in the final volume that one is probably pretty close as stands, but 5 and 6 were conceived of relatively later and, as far as I understand it, a bit more fluid in his head so there might have been greater changes and the pacing would probably have been tightened.

>> No.5819049

>>5818956
Actually I'd probably add The Bell Jar and Kafka on the Shore too. and I have 4 books in the pipe right at this moment too. I'm not very optimistic at this point.

>> No.5819087

>>5818970

I am not even remotely a Steinbeck fan but I really enjoyed Of Mice and Men. One of my favorite novellas.

>> No.5819112

>>5819087
That one specifically and a whole lot of that group I really don't have excuse for not reading besides the fact that back in high school instead of reading these we read shit like the chosen or a separate peace.
Of Mice and Men I can at least knock down in an afternoon, just gotta take it home from the library someday. Maybe borrow The Pearl too.