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5805034 No.5805034 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people say this is unfilmable? The plot is pretty straightforward and all the philosophical discussions all conveniently take place sitting around a campfire or in a saloon or something. A talented director/cinematographer team could easily bring to life the beauty of McCarthy's words and descriptions.

I don't know, I just don't get why this would be unfilmable.

>> No.5805060

that cover is fucking terrible

>> No.5805073

>>5805060

it has to be fan art. there is no way this piece of shit is a legit cover, surely.

>>5805034

people are alluding more to the unbelievable depictions of violence that would be required in order to adapt it accurately. of course the plot itself is filmable.

>> No.5805074

Am I going to enjoy this if I liked Red Dead Redemption and Clint Eastwood's movies?

Pls no bully.

>> No.5805084

>>5805074

lol. yes. it's gets the meme treatment on this board but if you're smart enough to value good prose and you aren't some surface reader plotpleb it's a masterpiece of modern lit. read it.

>> No.5805093

>>5805084
this. then read Suttree.

>> No.5805172
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>>5805073
>>5805060
still better than the picador cover

>> No.5805427

>>5805172
my eyes are burning just trying to read that quote fucking christ

>> No.5805494

>>5805034
Because the plot sucks and the only good thing about it is the prose and the judge.
A film equivalent would have to match the prose with equally perfect cinematography. It'd also need a really good actor to play the judge.
Matches Kubrick perfectly. James Franco was right. Too bad Kubrick's dead.

>> No.5805681

>>5805494
Wes Anderson could do it

>> No.5805774

>>5805681
>>5805494
>muh almighty Kubrick

I think these guys could give it a good shot
>pta
>coens
>tommy lee jones
>john hillcoat
>winding refn (admit it, that'd be a fantastic watch)

and Franco might be able to do a good job with a reasonable budget and cast. Not sure how I feel about his Test film of the novel, but he did a fantastic job with As I Lay Dying. Haven't seen Child of God yet.

>> No.5805782

>>5805774
>tommy lee jones

Dear god no.

>> No.5805791

>>5805172
That would honestly be okay without the eye searing block of quote text.

>> No.5805814

>>5805782
Have you seen The Homesman?
Fine directing and his best performance of his career. I know he's tried to adapt it before, along with pta and the coens

>> No.5805820

>>5805782
The Homesman wasn't that bad until it fucked up it's ending

>> No.5805835
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5805835

This is now a thread about unfilmable books.

pic related, most unfilmable book.

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>>5805835

>> No.5805883

>>5805494
>the plot sucks

What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.5805891

>>5805774
>>5805774
I didn't think it was that great. It almost seemed like the film generally admitted that the book was not film-able by having whole sections with the actors just reciting the book. Also splitting the screen in half didn't work that well throughout the film and just ended up being a failed experiment.

>> No.5805895

>>5805891

moar liek Dud Mediocrian amirite

>> No.5805909

>>5805861
Someone didn't watch Jodorowkowsky's Dune.

It literally gave birth to all the great sci-fi films in the last 30 years.

>> No.5805914

>>5805774
>pta
Yes
>coens
My lord yes
>tommy lee jones
Fuck no
>john hillcoat
Yes
>winding refn
Yes
>Franco
LOL NIGGER IS THIS BAIT?

>> No.5805923

>>5805909

I don't care. Lynch was that book's one and only chance for the book to have a decent adaptation, and Hollywood suits ruined creative control and thus the entire enterprise.

>> No.5805925

>>5805909
>Jodorowkowsky
kek

one of the worst misspellings I've seen in a while

>> No.5805929

>>5805914
>whaaaah franco sucks because he's an actor
>actors aren't good at anything but acting
>my favorite movie is pulp fiction
haha xD

>> No.5805935

>>5805929

Franco sucks because he's Franco.

>> No.5805938

>>5805909
That movie that never managed to even exist would have been unwatchably long except as a miniseries, and was altered so much that it was no longer dune but just something based on it.

Claiming it gave birth to the great sci-fi of the last 30 years is the height of hyperbole, a claim crammed into a documentary to make it seem more interesting and important and justify the documentary's existence.

>> No.5805940

>>5805891
>>5805891
I felt like with a book written that well, it would kinda be pointless to try and adapt it and then leave out narration/voice over. I honestly felt like the splitscreen was done fairly well. Interesting if anything. It wasn't a bad adaptation by any stretch of the imagination. I feel like most people will disregard anything Franco does just because of who he is. (not saying you are)

>> No.5805941

>>5805774
Fuck those guys. This is something only David Lynch could pull off. Think about it.

>> No.5805945

>>5805935
>tripfag
shiggy

>> No.5805950

>>5805929
Franco is a shit director and poor man's artist.

Get over yourself.

>> No.5805953

>>5805940
>I feel like most people will disregard anything Franco does just because of who he is. (not saying you are)

I am. Life's too short to wait for Franco to become competent/realize that he's not the genius he thinks he is.

What, you think we've all got some obligation to watch and appreciate everything he's ever done?

>>5805950

This too.

>> No.5805957

>>5805938
this
fucking this
Jodorowsky's film are visually arresting but it's full of no substance. Dune probably would've looked amazing, but it never had a chance of being made because Jodorowsky isn't willing to compromise on anything. The entirety of filmmaking is a collaboration and without a few compromises your film is never going to be made and it'll be a future documentary claiming to be the most influential thing since thing since 2001

>> No.5805960

>>5805681
Judge Holden played by Bill Murray

>> No.5805962

>>5805953
I don't have a clue how you got that I think everyone should watch and appreciate what he makes from what I said. I just said that people will disregard his work before seeing it because he's famous and he's Franco the actor.

>> No.5805967

>>5805957
*films are visually arresting, but THEY'RE full of no substance

fucking typos

>> No.5805971

There is no fucking way you could release a movie to theaters where the protagonist scalps Indians for a living.

>> No.5805975

>>5805962

You think it's impossible that people are disregarding him simply because he isn't any good. Therefore you believe that everybody should watch all of his films before dismissing him, as opposed to watching, say, one or two and realizing he's a hack (which he is).

By your logic, everybody would have dismissed any director ever who happened to have a previous career as an actor. This is absurd.

>> No.5805976

>>5805941
>>5805941
Six hours of the ranch scene from Mulholland Drive puncuated by occasional violence only to end to a bald Justin Theroux dancing to The Killing Moon by Echo and The Bunnymen

>> No.5805982

>>5805962
>>5805975

Just to add to that, how do you explain why Ron Howard wasn't dismissed as a director?

Or Woody Allen?

Or Rob Reiner?

Or Charlie fucking Chaplin?

Or William fucking Shakespeare?

Franco is shit, deal with it nigger.

>> No.5805987

>>5805975
>what is reading comprehension
I said BEFORE SEEING HIS FILMS.

BEFORE

If he's no good, diregard him. Hate on him, I don't give a fuck. I'm saying at least see the film[s] first.

>> No.5805990

>>5805987
>If he's no good
>If
>If

You can't bring yourself to recognise that he's crap, can you?

>> No.5806008

>>5805987
Franco's test footage for Blood Meridian was an awful piece of shit. Like a pretentious first year film student who got hold of Scott Glenn somehow for his shitty class project. It's seriously horrible.

>> No.5806053

>>5805987
Hey seth rogan why don't you take francos cock out of your ass and shut the fuck up.

>> No.5806794

>>5805172
it's goat from the spine view

>> No.5806927

>>5806794
Not really.

>> No.5809392

>>5805093
I'm about 100 or so pages into Suttree. Is there a conflict or anything that ever really happens? I've read a lot of other books by McCarthy but this one is going much much slower

>> No.5809407

>went to UCLA
>MFA from Columbia
>PhD at Yale
>Writes
>Acts
>Directs
>Teaches at NYU
No wonder /lit/ hates him so much.

>> No.5809506

>>5806927

it is thoooo.

that's like the reason I go for those covers. The others aren't that much better, and at least now the McCarthy collection looks consistent in the shelf. It's all about the shelf, really. That's what people look at. And it looks nice with different colours.

go picador, baby.

>> No.5809541

>>5805681
fuck wes anderson

>> No.5809557

>>5809407
>smokes an extreme amount of pot waisting his talent
If I had intelligence I would so get into harder drugs

>> No.5809623

>>5809392
It's more like a series of interwoven short stories about Suttree as he slowly becomes unbound from the city of Knoxville.

it's honestly a bit like Portrait of the Artist, but set to a loose McCarthy biography, and replace all the Irish stuff with southern stuff, and all the aesthetic tumult with the bleak deterioration of an individual from a society he feels bound to.

>> No.5810766

>Start looking into Blood Meridian
> Every thread is "Greatest book ever" "Must read" "Universally loved by /lit/"
>Finally pick it up
>"plot sucks" "boring" "moar liek dud mediocrian amirite"
>"

>> No.5810776

>>5810766
It's just the contrarians, happens every time a book gets talked about to much on here.