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5773516 No.5773516 [Reply] [Original]

can something be both good and evil simultaneously?

>> No.5773527

yes

any and every act benefits someone

>> No.5773529

most people are that

>> No.5773530

Yes. Paulus speaks about this in a few of his letters (don't remember exactly which ones).

>> No.5773547

Pretty much everyone.

If you've read Stoner, for example, he's a stern but well-meaning, all around decent guy from his own perspective. But Lomax thinks he's an evil, scheming, discriminatory pervert. Which is the real William Stoner? Both and neither.

>> No.5773548

>>5773516
>that picture
>that filename
purely good

>> No.5773559

>>5773516
The best way I can think of it is that the good the hero wants is the evil the villain doesn't want and vise versa. I think it was St. Thomas aquinas who said "There is no evil, only less good"

It actually boils down to how you define good and evil.

>> No.5773604

>>5773516
I think we can move beyond this meme.

>> No.5773618

Something can have objectively or subjectively good and objectively or subjectively evil attributes. Something can be subjectively net good and subjectively net good. Something cannot be objectively net good and objectively net evil.

>> No.5773619

>>5773559
Apathy could be defined as 'less good' rather than 'evil', but desiring for others to suffer for the sake of them suffering rather than for personal gain is evil, not 'less good'.

>> No.5773632

>>5773619
Like I said, it depends on how one defines evil and good. You can spin it anyway just as you have done. There is no right answer

>> No.5773641

maybe something like an addicts evaluation of, or relationship towards, their drug of choice

>> No.5773647

>>5773632
>There is no right answer
You can't prove that. Therefore, you have no basis for objecting to my claim that there is a right answer.

>> No.5773655

>>5773647
And you can't prove your claim either. So nuf said

>> No.5773672

Yes, God.

>> No.5773675

>>5773618
How can something be objectively good?

>> No.5773678

>>5773675
my pleasure is objectively good

>> No.5773697

>>5773678
no. your taste is shit and the pleasures you derive from them are also shitty.

>> No.5773698

>>5773672
Who's she?

>> No.5773707

>>5773618
You realize it's 2014 and you're still using diametrics to justify things? Good and evil is a false dichotomy.

I seriously hope you don't do this in the future.

>> No.5773717

>>5773697
you are wrong

>> No.5773723

Hitler was both

>> No.5773784

Isn't everything, more or less?