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Is /lit/ really the only decent board? I go on /pol/ and ask three US history questions from a quiz where google didn't deliver expecting they would know more than anyone about American history. The first response I get is:
> Asking /pol/ to do your history homework
You expect a bunch of Neo-Nazis and Libertarians to know stuff about history other than bizarre conspiracy theories?
Seems like such a hypocritical board. Through /lit/, I have actually discovered some great books, I would have otherwise never stumbled upon. Sites that list the top 50-100 books of all time typically regurgitate the same books we heard of when we were in high school. I would like to thank you guys for not being a completely shit board and helping my discover some of my favorite books/authors of all-time.

>> No.5768197

>>5768192
>helping my discover
kill yourself

>> No.5768200

ok but we generally don't like being asked to help with homework either

>> No.5768201

>>5768192
Politics and 4chan is a recipe for overthrowing the system so the CIA have overrun /pol/. They do it here too when a leftist thread happens.

>> No.5768202

>Is /lit/ really the only decent board?
On 4chan? Yes.

That being said I still visit other boards on 4chan, but I humbly acknowledge they are shit.

You can discuss history here, too, by the way. We don't want to help you with your homework either, though.

>> No.5768230

>>5768197
Thanks for pointing out my typo. It is late.

>>5768200
I understand that. The average /pol/sters are just racists and that seems to really be the only thing that draws them to the board. I never talk about history or anything semi-interesting. That is the last time I am visiting the board because honestly, they don't give a shit about political changes that actually have a chance of passing. Yay, the republicans won the house and senate. Okay, nothing is going to change. They have a chance to get someone on the time magazine cover as person of the year that can appeal to the young demographic, Rand Paul and they spam Putin with votes. If they truly want change in the republican party, they need to know the youth is necessary to win a presidential election. If republicans end up with an extremely conservative candidate, they have no chance in hell of winning and house/senate doesn't mean shit then. Other than /soc/, they are the next closest thing to /b/. I actually believe you guys when you say you've read "The Brothers Karamazov".

>> No.5768232

>>5768230
They never talk*

>> No.5768244

>>5768192
/sci/ likes to help with homework.
bretty gud board imo

>> No.5768260

>>5768230
>Thanks for pointing out my typo. It is late.
a joke, anon

>> No.5768268

>>5768201
That's a bit farfetched but I won't rule it out.

The third post in my thread on /pol/ pretty much summarizes their whole board:
"The jews did it. Also ancient aliens. Is blank white? Is it okay to date asian chicks? Chimp out! It's happening"

>>5768202
Yeah. I browse /sci/ every once in a while. They are a bit pretentious(not saying this board can't be) and I find their hate of pop-sci a bit distressing. It's simply to get people into science who normally wouldn't be or at least have some slight interest in. Pop-sci definitely is not a bad thing. I'm beyond it of course but others aren't. It's sort of like saying, don't start with "Huckleberry & Finn" to get into literature, start with "Stoner".

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>>5768230
>I understand that. [I need the word count. pretend this is here] "The Brothers Karamazov".

>All this bullshit

1. /pol/ isn't a politics board. It's the politically incorrect board, with a focus on news, current events, and politics.

2. A large portion of /pol/ isn't ACTUALLY racist, and are just going along for the ride. Most are racial realists, which some people view as racist, but the really extreme "JOOOOOS" stuff is mostly trolling. For example, a jew is responsible for most of the Ben Garrison edits.

3. They do, in fact, talk about history. Not as much as they talk about current events, but they do. /lit/ is, however, the default history and philosophy board.

4. Few people on /pol/ actually have any interest in changing anything. All most of them want is to watch the world burn. Hence the constant HAPPENING threads.

5. You're a fool if you think anyone on /lit/ has read anything.

6. Do your own fucking homework

I'll gb2/pol/ now.

>> No.5768292

>>5768244
It was for a timed quiz and I wouldn't bother /sci/ with homework. Google didn't come through on some questions because of perhaps, tricky wording. One thing I find annoying about American History is names of battles, acts, etc aren't all agreed upon and my professor picks the least popular of them usually, heh. I've never been an "American history buff", that's why I chose two social sciences over two history classes on my path to transfer to uni.

>> No.5768308

>>5768281
>I'll gb2/pol/ now.
If all you say is true, enjoy your troll board then. It's a cesspool.
Thanks.

>> No.5768312

>>5768192
/lit/ isn't even a decent board, tbh

>> No.5768318

>>5768312
If so, then nothing on 4chan can be considered decent.

>> No.5768325

>>5768268
>don't start with "Huckleberry & Finn" to get into literature, start with "Stoner".
First of all, "Huckleberry & Finn" isn't the name of the novel (what, you think it's about a law firm or something??), and secondly, "Huckleberry Finn" is ten times the book "Stoner" is.

>> No.5768336

>>5768308
/pol/ is a cesspoll.

It's also great for news.

It's ALSO great if you want your views challenged. Doesn't matter what they are, if you post a point of view, you will get ten posts calling you a jew, of course, but you will also get a couple of posts that are well thought out and challenge what you have to say. It's certainly the most confrontational board, besides /a/.

>> No.5768337

>>5768318
wellllllllllllll yeah

>> No.5768344

/lit/ and /tg/ are generally the only boards with decent content.

>> No.5768347

>>5768312
Its alright. People get really defensive about asinine shit though. Theres an irrational hostility towards materialism here, for example.

Id rather have people that think Hume is still or was ever relevant than /pol/tards.

>> No.5768348

>>5768344
>>>/wsg?

>> No.5768360

>>5768201
/x/, please. Go to bed.

Her you go, OP. The Homework board. Just opened recently >>>/hm/

>> No.5768361

>>5768192
>/pol/ was mean and racist when I asked them to do my homework

In other news, /lit/ likes Infinite Jest, and literally everyone is a spook.

>> No.5768371

>>5768360
What if I told you the CIA invented abstract expressionism?

>> No.5768374

>>5768200
This

It's nice you found some books and like the board and all

But

/pol/ is fucking awesome because where else can you say whatever you want without having some faggot make a mountain out of a molehole over issues and try to get attention by creating a social pariah out of you

and posting stupid meme pics is for any other board other than here. We laugh at high brow meme humor here. Not bs kindergarten doodles.

And asking for homework help is irrevocably lame. I hate it when the smartasses try to get an essay topic done by making "valid threads" by asking some vague question and waiting for sides to bicker, likely done with a barney the happy gator pic

tl;dr whatever faggot you shouldve posted a cute girl showing her legs and feet

>> No.5768376

>>5768281
>A large portion of /pol/ isn't ACTUALLY racist, and are just going along for the ride. Most are racial realists
What exactly is the distinction between a racist and racial realist?

>> No.5768380

>>5768371
Kermit wasn't that artsy.

>> No.5768384

>>5768376
Racial realists claim that they're not racists when someone accuses them of being racists

>> No.5768388

>>5768376
A racist is someone who indiscriminately hates one race forever with blind hatred

A realist is someone that says' you know, I grew up and/or seen plenty of examples of this race, and while I won't think they're all the same, I can definitely accept that they have stereotypes for a reason'

Of course if youre white youre automatically a racist for not throwing money at nonwhites and giving them any and all of your privilege and opportunities and should feel guilty for being born a white

>> No.5768389

>>5768376
Racism is judging people because of the color of their skin.

Racial realism is admitting that statistically, certain races do certain things more/less/better/worse than others, but allows for outliers.

Why do you think /pol/ loves Thomas Sowell?

>> No.5768393

>>5768325
Sorry. Once again, I am tired. I'm in the EST timezone. Yes, "Huckleberry Finn" is great and most would enjoy it more than "Stoner" as you do. That being said, "Stoner" is a book that requires an evolved*, attention span that most non-readers lack. "Huckleberry Finn" is a fun novel while a non-reader may put "Stoner" down after the first chapter if they make it that far. This is a reason I used "Stoner" as an example for a book not to begin with.

*Odd word to use but most youth lack the attention span to read a book that doesn't at least entertain them at a decent rate. Advanced readers have overcome instant dopamine release if they were once in that loop. Brain plasticity may also play a role.

>> No.5768398

>>5768192
>You expect a bunch of Neo-Nazis and Libertarians to know stuff about history other than bizarre conspiracy theories?
You sound mad as fuck that they didn't do your homework for you.

I'm saging and reporting your offtopic thread.

Get fucked and stay angry shithead

>> No.5768404

>>5768393
Did you just nonironically use a footnote in your post?

Ok DFW that gave me a chuckle but let's learn some posting conventions before someone gets mean with you

>> No.5768420

>>5768374
>/pol/ is fucking awesome because where else can you say whatever you want without having some faggot make a mountain out of a molehole over issues and try to get attention by creating a social pariah out of you

/b/

>> No.5768422

>>5768388
Not many people who are racist hate every single person of a certain color or race. Even Hitler liked certain Jews, therefore he wasn't racists against Jewish people?

>> No.5768425

>>5768389
>Racial realism is admitting that statistically, certain races do certain things more/less/better/worse than others, but allows for outliers.

Lmfao

>> No.5768428

>>5768230
>Brothers Karamazov
>Russian author
>wahhh /pol/ likes Putin

Seems like the board is leagues ahead of your paygrade and you can't keep up

>> No.5768431

>>5768425
Do you have a better definition?

Not of people who call themselves racial realists, they're mostly racists IRL, but the concept itself.

>> No.5768432

>>5768398
I'm not mad. I was just a bit surprised. I did well on the quiz anyway and I have a 98% overall in history. God bless you though anon.

>> No.5768433

>>5768420
/b/ is a porn board
look what happened with the celeb thing
porn

>> No.5768436

>>5768389
>Racial realism is admitting that statistically, certain races do certain things more/less/better/worse than others, but allows for outliers.
Just about everyone admits that statistically races have different results, that's the whole point of gathering race-based statistics. The disagreement is about whether or not whites tended reproduce more based on certain traits, which doesn't seem likely since the majority of reproducing whites has been dump, illiterate proles until very recently.

>> No.5768445

>>5768436
>Just about everyone admits that statistically races have different results, that's the whole point of gathering race-based statistics. The disagreement is about whether or not whites tended reproduce more based on certain traits, which doesn't seem likely since the majority of reproducing whites has been dump, illiterate proles until very recently.

Now we're talking about white supremacists. That's a whole different thing, one which, you're right, /pol/ is guilty of despite having lackluster evidence for. I'm more talking about things like crime statistics and the concept of white privilege.

>> No.5768446

>>5768431
The concept itself is to racism as graphic novels are to comic books.

>> No.5768448

>>5768428
Fyodor Dostoyevsky wasn't your average Russian so what point are you trying to make?

>> No.5768451

>>5768433
I was just saying where else one could do that which goes to show what tier of boards /pol/ is on.

/diy/ /sci/ and /lit/ are the only boards to my knowledge with any intelligence. maybe /3/ i dunno i dont fuck with stuff like that.

>> No.5768452

>>5768448
Also, other than Fyodor Dostoyevsky and Putin being Russian, I wouldn't say they have a lot in common.

>> No.5768454

>>5768422
>pulling the Hitler card
That's what racism is. It's prejudice.

And Germany had its reasons for how WWII turned out

>> No.5768456

>>5768445
No one disputes crime statistics, which can be due to a number of factors, it's just a question of whether you're going to argue that races evolved separately due to certain traits being favored for reproduction. Again, with whites, it's a very tenuous case to suggest meek and cowardly men tended to reproduce more than violent men.

>> No.5768458

>>5768446
...Your analogy is more apt than you think.

Comic books are released in parts, telling a part of the story, whereas a graphic novel is a completed work, which tells a whole story.

Racism only conveys part of the truth ("BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS!"), whereas racial realism attempts to show the whole thing ("Blacks are statistically more likely to be criminals than whites or Asians. This is due to a number of factors, most importantly cultural factors, since this trend does not hold true for second generation Caribbean blacks")

>> No.5768461

>>5768454
>That's what racism is. It's prejudice.
If you want to make up your own definition, sure, but most racists can claim to negative experiences or reading about negative things concerning another race. And narrowing definitions of racism is what SJW's do.

>> No.5768462

>>5768456
>No one disputes crime statistics
You need to spend more time on /pol/. PLENTY of people claim that whoever is recording crime statistics is secretly racist, or that the police arresting blacks more than whites are racist.

>> No.5768468

>>5768462
On /pol/, plenty of people claim that Jews are fluoridating water, than doesn't mean plenty of people do who don't live in their basement.

>> No.5768471

>>5768451
>tier of boards
>intelligence
Another /q/ baby that got their feelings hurt on /pol/ and refuses to believe there's good threads so they come to some art board for their confirmation bias

Like clockwork with you kids

>> No.5768475

>>5768458
'Graphic novel' is nothing more than marketing term for 'comic book' to make the genre sound more mature.

You made up definitions for each on the spot, most "complete stories" are just particular issues from an ongoing series collected into one book.

>> No.5768476

>>5768461
>SJWs
Are we even arguing here? What could I possibly have said that would earn me such a label? Are you the guy I replied to?

>> No.5768481

>>5768471
Dog, I lurk on /pol/, have never posted. Sometimes it is hysterical but the mean utility of that board is right around /b/'s.

>> No.5768482

>>5768468
You're right for the most part, but there are some important people who make the argument.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewsubcategory.asp?id=1627

>> No.5768488

>>5768476
define racism.

>> No.5768489

>>5768475
It's used as a marketing term, but the proper definition is of a complete story.

Definition[edit]
The term is not strictly defined, though one broad dictionary definition is "a fictional story that is presented in comic-strip format and presented as a book."[1] In the publishing trade, the term is sometimes extended to material that would not be considered a novel if produced in another medium. Collections of comic books that do not form a continuous story, anthologies or collections of loosely related pieces, and even non-fiction are stocked by libraries and bookstores as "graphic novels" (similar to the manner in which dramatic stories are included in "comic" books).

>It is also sometimes used to create a distinction between works created as stand-alone stories, in contrast to collections or compilations of a story arc from a comic book series published in book form.[2][3]

Again the analogy fits, since "racial realist" is used by racist to justify their racism.

>> No.5768491

>>5768476
I'm not saying you are an SJW, I'm saying you narrow the definition of the term "racism" to suit your agenda. Just like they do.

>> No.5768494

>>5768481
I also lurk on /pol/, and when it isn't election season or some homosex/feminist drama and/or trend going on, plenty of topics grow on the board, from religion to space tech to phraking to marine biology to legos to chinese factories etc

It's great and whenever I see someone whining about it I can only assume they havent browsed enough because they were triggered

>> No.5768500

>>5768491
what agenda???
Holy shit how about perspective, agenda is too strong a word for someone farting in bed on a Nickelodeon web portal at 2am

>>5768488
I did here
>>5768388

>> No.5768501

>>5768482
I live with a Zionist. Is there any proof that Jewish people are purposely fluoridating our water? Is there any proof that fluoride actually "dumbs" you down? Fluoride calcifies your pineal gland but so does a lot of shit including the obvious calcium and phosphorous. If our pineal gland is going to calcify anyway from nutrients such as calcium, why is Fluoride a big deal?

>> No.5768504

>>5768501
...What?

I thought the Fluoride thing was just a goofy analogy...

I know nothing of fluoride.

>> No.5768509

>>5768500
>Of course if youre white youre automatically a racist for not throwing money at nonwhites and giving them any and all of your privilege and opportunities and should feel guilty for being born a white

so you're an troll or an idiot.

p.s. im only 1/4 white

>> No.5768514

>>5768509
Neither

I'm an smart guy who assumes he is talking with other smart guys that can pick up on when someone being facetious

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>this thread

OP, no. Just no. Lurk more. I'm serious.

Even some surface level stuff like /ck/ and /diy/. Just lurk more.

It's always weird talking about other boards, but there really are great communities here. Even if you take something as fringe as /d/ or /toy/, you will see some great comradery.

Even /s4s/ is great.

My main interest is literature (classics) and philosophy, but there's plenty to see here on 4chan. Branch out more, lurk more.

>> No.5768518

>>5768514
It's hard to tell on this board, so tell me what you really think, anon
.

>> No.5768543

>>5768518
I think literally throwing money at someone will get some weird looks
I think literally giving money can only do so much
I think the privilege thing is weird and an internet phenomena but can accept that some fellas are lucky and some ain't
I think white girls look good but the narcissists are definitely not deseving of their percieved value
I think treating minorities as non privileged is as racist as thinking them as non equal. I believe a Colombian called Jorge Orwell made a book that had a line say
>All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others
As a commentary about a Nintendo video game

>> No.5768565

I respect your opinion, although I disagree.

>> No.5768605

I'd say /lit/ is probs the least strenuous intellectual board.

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>>5768517
>Even /s4s/ is great.
medium kek

>> No.5768617

/pol/ doesn't read, they just regurgitated what they heat. Half the people on /pol/ are trolling the other half started out as trolls and now are full out tin foil hat retards.

>> No.5768628

>>5768617
This lol

>> No.5768645

The difference between racism and racial realism is that the first says "Black people are thieves" and the second says "I'm not racist, but black people are thieves."

>> No.5768650

>>5768645
a thief is a theif but your a faggot>>5768645