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5644788 No.5644788[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

what do you think of religion threads?

>> No.5644804

>>5644788
They're not literature so I report them, just like I am reporting this thread.

>> No.5644962

>>5644804
:^ )

>> No.5644969

>>5644788

Love em - we need more of them.

>> No.5645009

>>5644788
>Solid Snake
>Penn Jilette
>that violent psychotic guy from Boardwalk Empire
>Stephen Hawking
>George Carlin
>Nietzsche (seriously, putting him in with the rest of those spergs is just cruel)
>Carl Sagan
>Hitchens
>Dawkins
>Dennett / Santa
>Tyson
>Adam Savage
>Mishio Kaku

I tried.

>> No.5645021
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5645021

>Nietzsche getting thrown in with that lot
>New Atheism resorting to idol worship

>> No.5645037

>>5645009
Fuck, I just realized that's Bill Nye the Science Guy with Ham on Rye.

>> No.5645052

>>5645009
>>5645037
And where the hell is Sam Harris? That Candlejack guy in the lower left corner probably took him cause he said his

>> No.5645061

>>5645021

to be fair "idol worship" has a pretty nebulous and broad meaning in theology

>> No.5645079

>>5645021
>New Atheism resorting to idol worship

is there a distinction between New and "Old" Atheism?

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5645080

chasubles are some of the best religious threads

>> No.5645086

>>5645079
It's just a way for old theism to discredit atheism by emphasising their own timelessness. Religions change and lack of religion changes along side them.

>> No.5645095

>>5645086

It's a useful term to designate a popular phenomenon of radical atheism as opposed to a restricted, mostly intellectual atheism (say, Bertrand Russell).

Clearly there are connections between the two but I think it's a useful distinction, especially since "new atheists" tend to be comparatively close-minded/proselytizing.

>> No.5645100

>>5645079
Enough of one that they've put that term on themselves. Same goes for "Atheism+".

>>5645061
What I mean by idol worship is the canonization of these people and, by extension, their ideas. I feel like there's not much room for growth within the Atheist community because of this. The "growth" they do experience is more social justice shit like Atheism+, which has almost nothing to do with theology.

Also, as an Atheist (or an apatheist) I have no interest in the kind of dogmatism practiced by a large portion of the community. Sometimes it feels like the Church all over again, minus the God.

>> No.5645132

>>5645100

>Sometimes it feels like the Church all over again, minus the God.

That's because the problem has never been religion or atheism, a shortcoming always confined to the other.

It's always been dogmatism, which is a human phenomenon applicable to self.


[personal note]

I really don't know what to make of the whole atheism vs religion vs faith thing anymore. I see a serious need for a moral vocation to love (and love seriously) in an age of vapid self-intersest