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Literary confession thread:

>> No.5616801

i can't read

>> No.5616806

In critique threads, I always ask for critique but never give any.

>> No.5616811

>>5616806

I hope the mods ban you.

>> No.5616813

>>5616796
I haven't read a book since highschool but I post on /lit/ every day, mainly to shitpost and post about irrelevant things

>> No.5616817

>>5616811
I really do deserve it.

>> No.5616818

I'm going to ask out a girl tomorrow so I can incorporate her into the book I'm going to write for the Novemeber book challenge.

I like her, but I think it would be interesting to write about her, since I plan on referencing a lot of aspects from my life.

>> No.5616821

>>5616796
I can't read fiction I get bored after about 50 pages then drop the book. I feels like a waste of time when I could read philosophy instead.

>> No.5616826

>>5616821
Do you read phil after that or you play videogames?

>> No.5616829

I have a lot of trouble with comprehension when reading and have to read alongside audiobooks in many cases

>> No.5616831

I read philosophy exclusively and secretly despise people who read anything else.

>> No.5616832

I'm on the verge of worshipping Vargas Llosa.

>> No.5616833

I complain about the philosophy threads but I shitpost in them just like everybody else

>> No.5616837

>>5616796
Fuck off, Zeeburg

>> No.5616841

i wa slistening alan watts recordings in the past 3 hours and i just masturbated like its no tomorrow 5 minutes ago

>> No.5616847

>>5616837
>buttblasted faggot detected

>> No.5616848

I wasn't blown away by 'Ficciones' but I pretend I was because I feel like I should be

>> No.5616851

>>5616796
I liked Taipei

>> No.5616854

I verbalize when I read, and if I really like a line or something I'll read it a few times over to really try to feel the entire gravity of what is being said. Internet articles and like "every day" reading I do pretty quickly and I do it without verbalizing, but when I read for fun I can't help it; I don't want to miss even a single detail.

I also really like scifi, but I dislike most of the scifi I've read, if that makes sense. I feel like there is so much that could be accomplished literary wise with the setting, but that no one really does that.

>> No.5616855

>>5616851
It was iite

>> No.5616856

i pair nietzsche books with outfits and casually carry them around

>> No.5616868

>>5616854
>I also really like scifi, but I dislike most of the scifi I've read, if that makes sense.
I agree with this completely and I keep reading acclaimed sci-fi that turns out to be shitty because the authors who do it cannot fucking write.

>> No.5616874

I skim/skip subplots.

>> No.5616878

>>5616826
I stopped playing videogames to focus more on philosophy. I also can't afford to buy new games cause I'm semi-NEET. When I don't read philosophy I try do something "intellectual". I see games/movies/media/people as a waste of time. I want to go full philosopher ascetic or at least achieve Sartre status in terms of behavior (not philosophy).

>> No.5616884

I've been reading /lit-core "serious fiction" since age 8 (had read some Chekov and Melville before reaching 12), 15 years ago. I still subvocalize and I'm not sure I ever understand what I read.

>> No.5616888

>>5616856
LONDON
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D
O
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>> No.5616893

i love phil k dick but hate scifi

>> No.5616894
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5616894

>>5616831
I like you!
What ahve you been delving into?

>>5616832
Translated or in spanish?
If in spanish you'll love Manuel Mujica Lainez.

>> No.5616907

>>5616894
>What ahve you been delving into?
nietzky's nachlass

>> No.5616908

>>5616878
> I see games/movies/media/people
>at least achieve Sartre status in terms of behavior (not philosophy)

>pairs people with video games as if the former was as unessential to healthy human life as the latter
>believes he can be a philosopher with no social interactions
>believe he can shun the complexity of human interaction and still be entitled to feel intellectually superior because he masturbated over autistic mind games
>believe he can go full ascetic while being a welfare NEET who doesn't live in a mountain or in the streets
>believes he can achieve Sartre behavior status (whatever that means) by being a shut-in fuck with no social interactions

I ranked them in increasing order of stupidity, so that it's more clear.

>> No.5616911

Didn't finish the last two books I started.

I Am Legend (boring to me because I know how it ended.)

Inherent Vice (after reading 100 or pages I felt like the plot didn't advance at all. I plan to restart and finish it one day. It was my first shot at a TP book.)

>> No.5616913

I read summaries of many classics but over the years my memory has given way to which I have and haven't read because I forget the minor details anyway

>> No.5616920

>>5616908
>extrovert normals feeling threatened by the other

ayy

>> No.5616927

I've never taken a pre-1900 literature course. I plan on taking one during my MFA. It just never occurred to undergraduate me that I should read anything foundational or classic.

>> No.5616934

im not gay

>> No.5616939

>>5616908

>the complexity of human interaction

The complexity of histrionical grills and pot smoking chads?

>> No.5616947

I have like six stacks of 200+ books im giving to a thrift store.

>> No.5616948

>>5616927
That's crazy. I majored in English and almost every single class I took was pre-1900. I think only 3 total weren't. I would have liked to take more modern stuff but we had a ton of distribution requirements.

>> No.5616951

I think The Last Question by Asimov is lame as hell.

>>5616848
In my opinion, its cool, neat, but not mind blowing because nothing Borges says really has much value, his stories are just cool puzzles that are fun to think about.

>> No.5616958

The only books I've ever read belong to the Dinotopia series, and I've been reading them over and over for the last 15 years.

>> No.5616960

>>5616908
Anon, I don't believe those things. I don't plan on being a NEET forever. I actually have year of my degree left. My moods have just been very bad for the past year and I haven't been able to attend school. That's why I said semi-NEET. And the Sartre comment really is only in relation to his philandering not anything else about him.

>> No.5616963

>>5616960

faggot read Discourses of Epictetus and Stoicism

>> No.5616970

I haven't read at all these past two weeks.

>> No.5616971

>>5616948
Because I was a creative writing major, I had the ability to pick and choose my literature classes. At the time, I was big into the beats and the modernists. I regret not taking a course on pre-1900 American poetry, because I'd love to have a class on Dickinson, Whitman, and the other pre-modern American poets.

>> No.5616977

>>5616960
>I won't be a NEET forever
>I only have one year of my degree left
>my degree
You do know what NEET stands for, right?

>> No.5616979

seems like a decent thread to ask, is ulysses recommended for plebs or trop difficile?

>> No.5616981

>>5616979
for plebs i generally recommend television

>> No.5616983

>>5616970
No shame, anon. But there's an easy way to break that trend. Just turn off your router.

>> No.5616989

>>5616981
'no'

>> No.5616990

The longest book I've enjoyed is Crime and Punishment

>> No.5616995

>>5616979
It's genuinely difficult to read, and therefore not the kind of book I recommend to anyone who isn't a step above mere bookworm-tier. That being said, it's hardly the be-all-end-all of literature. If you're interested in getting your feet wet in Joyce, I'd go with Dubliners.

>> No.5617001

>>5616963
But I'm an Epicurean.

>>5616977
Not in Education, Employment, or Training.

I'm not in any of those things right now. I really don't know the exact status I'm in at my school. I would guess I'm in because I made an appeal to get back in, but I didn't take any classes this semester.

>> No.5617002

>>5616979
You'll get a lot of troll responses to this, but it's a really, really hard book. I was an English major, I still read a book a week out of school, and it's the hardest book I've ever finished. I'm not sure I would've finished it if I didn't have a class to do it for.

That said, some parts of it are really fun. If you're really interested, the recommended background to work up to it is the Odyssey, Hamlet, Dubliners, and Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. Post threads if you try, there are people here like me who genuinely like Joyce and want to help other people out to have fun reading his stuff.

>> No.5617004

>>5616920
I'm an introvert weirdo, but that "I'm a philosopher-in-waiting but I can't be assed to talk to people" is pure ideology. How many influential philosophers do you know had little or no relationship before they even designed their system/came to their great realization ? Even über-autist Wittgenstein had friends.

I'm giving him a favor: if he want to understand the hardships of philosophy, he has to suffer through other people's bullshit. That's how you make it.

And if you want to behave like Sartre, you better find yourself an authoritative bisexual waifu (that you will actually fuck).

>> No.5617005

>>5616990
This is a weak confession.

>> No.5617008

>>5617002
>>5616995

fair enough, i'm not going to go for it. i'll start off with his more entry level stuff.

>> No.5617012

I don't see the appeal of Infinite Jest

>> No.5617014

>>5616939
>his only experience with other people is meeting two 4chan cardboard hate figures

You didn't engage in much human interaction, did you ? Or you live in the US. In which case, travel.

>> No.5617015

>>5617001
Oh, you're taking a break. I don't think they care how long you take unless you have financial aid. I know that my financial aid was slated to dry up if I went over the 4-year mark.

>> No.5617024

>>5617001

Read it anyway, Discourses of Epictetus is GOAT

>> No.5617034

How often do you guys not finish books?

I have to return 1q84 tomorrow and I'm kind of sick of it. Should I renew it and finish (360 pages in) or read the rest of the plot online and start The Plague?

>> No.5617040

>>5616806

Son of a bitch.

>> No.5617042

>>5617004
you'll get your fair share of interaction without seeking it out deliberately.

>> No.5617047

>>5616960
My apologies, but your last comment made it sound like you were /lit's platonic ideal of a /litizen (ie a smug NEET) and proud of it.

You should seriously go out more and talk to people in librairies (or bored librarians, aim for the youngest/cutest/more open-looking ones, even if they are not girls, guys sometimes read books too).

It's not so hard to find people who can discuss literature if you're in uni or in a great city. I'm a STEM major in an overwhelmingly STEM uni yet about 10% of my class last year was made of poetry enthusiasts and wannabe writers.

And that's just counting those who write/plan to be published/have been published/read philosophy for pleasure.

>> No.5617052

>>5616854
I do this too, read things over again, and read "slowly" according to some people and I often find myself trying to break down what the author is doing and analyzing more than just enjoying what im reading and i cant tell if this is helpful, in the context of writing, or is just a total waste of time.

>> No.5617054

>>5617034
Fuck no. If you're not enjoying a book, move on. You only have so much time, and you need to fill it with books that grip you, books that sing to your heart.

>> No.5617059

>>5617042
Not if you're a NEET on welfare that avoid eyecontact in the street. The word hikkikomori exists for a reason.

And there is "human interaction, though forced" and "pretending to have an awkward conversation for 5 minutes until you find an escape out of there."

>> No.5617064

>>5616878
>neet

Why do you read philosophy if you cant contribute or interact with others? theres no point. eithe go back to playing videogames or kill yourself.

>> No.5617070

>>5617052
It's good. Might make reading less enjoyabke, but if you want to write that's good discipline.

>> No.5617075

>>5616894
It's in English

>> No.5617076

>>5617015
Well, I got kicked out because my major doesn't interest me so I stopped going to class and read philosophy instead. Made an appeal to get back in and got back in, but said I would take classes this semester and didn't.

>>5617024
In due time anon. I read some for my ancient Greece course. Best history course I ever took taught by a right-wing Jewish Brooklyn cop turned historian.

>> No.5617087

>>5617064
>Why do you read philosophy if you cant contribute or interact with others? theres no point. eithe go back to playing videogames or kill yourself.

I might just kill myself anon anything is in the cards at this point.

>> No.5617088

>>5617002

>Odyssey, Hamlet, Dubliners, and Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.

in this order?

>> No.5617098

>>5617076
It sounds like you fucked up, and then fucked up again. Good on you for abandoning the major that didn't interest you, but you might have ruined your chances of getting a philosophy degree at your last school. Not that you necessarily want to get a philosophy degree, but if you did you might have to go elsewhere.

>> No.5617106

I liked Infinite Jest

>> No.5617108
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>>5616848
Borges is a very particular writer, there's no shame in not liking him. Although you could consider a couple other stories just to check him out. The Aleph and The Zaffir are pretty interesting fables.

>>5616854
>>5616854

It's okay, really. Things like alliterations lose all their force if you don't move your tongue around :^)

Also, for scifi boy, have you read Dune? Aren't you part of the club? Don't you want the spice to flow?

>>5616878
Then you're cool in my book.
Try to interact in real life too. Sartre and Camus were close friends, Hemingway connected most iconic writers of his time, and so on. Talking with people who know more than you is healthy.

>>5616884
Little children shouldn't try to read books for grown ups, many times neither should teenagers. No matter how smart with though we were. Re read them, it will be worth it.

>> No.5617125

>>5617059
by the time people go hiki they have already had their fair share.

>> No.5617127

>>5617108
I don't dislike him though. I just didn't get anything out of Ficciones beyond a sort of "huh!", the way your dad reacts to buying a six pack of hot dogs to find seven inside

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>>5616907
Do you read and take time to think them through or you use a certain companion book?

>>5616934
lol, what a loser!

>>5616951
It's a cute story, Asimov is absurdely good for his pulp circle but not so much if you pit him against all world literature of all time.

>>5616958
You are ready for the future.

>> No.5617282

>>5617158
>Do you read and take time to think them through or you use a certain companion book?
The former. Already read all his published works at least once, so this seems like the next step.

>> No.5617291

>>5616796
Half way through infinite jest, and actually enjoying it.

>> No.5617293

>>5616818
Go to bed Tao.

>> No.5617306
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>>5617282
>reading all the works
>taking time to think them through
>following a companion book to take external considerations you might not have known like influences, commentaries and context.
>in that order
I think I'm falling for you, anon!

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5617311

... are audiobooks frowned upon? I can't focus otherwise

>> No.5617313

>>5616796
I actually found Ulysses and Gravity's Rainbow to be very easy reads because I actually get the majority of the references and can't for the life of me understand how anyone can find these books difficult because how the fuck did they make it past high school without being exposed to many of these things and how the fuck are they planning on making a life for themselves when they have a hobby for something they fail to understand and probably never will.

>> No.5617318

>>5617108
>Little children shouldn't try to read books for grown ups, many times neither should teenagers. No matter how smart with though we were. Re read them, it will be worth it.

I didn't say I didn't enjoy and got anything from what I read. Moby Dick is still one of my best chidhood memories (at elast what I stil remember of it).

But somehow I feel like I'm not understand things fully. I can have an overall view of the book, make connections between elements (that is easy, our brains are meant for connecting things). I can compare it to other books I've read, replace it in context if I know the context, I could probably talk about it rather eloquently (at least if the memories aren't too far back). But I still feel a lack. The lasting impression I get from a book, any book, is like that of a fabric (well, makes sense etymologically), sentences woven more or less tightly together, but no body within, no center. The book appears like a living thing, and it must be made living since, as I read it, I make it a part of my living. But it isn't.

It's no an easy problem to pin down. Re-reading helps, but I feel like everything should be reread ten times (anything that worth reading once, at least). Perhaps I'm just autistic after all.

>> No.5617330

When I was 16 Tao Lin made consensual love to me in my parents home where he was living at the time with my parents knowledge, but now that we're not together and he's achieved some moderate level of fame I'm going to tell the entire world that he raped me.

>> No.5617332

>>5617306
t-thanks.

I'm reading a biography as well and have read some of his correspondence. I will probably read more of the latter and then move onto secondary lit. It's by far the most dedicated I've been to any one author/philosopher but it feels like it's paying off.

>> No.5617333

>>5617311
It's not even actual reading...

>> No.5617335

>>5616796
I haven't read or written a single page in 2 weeks for a variety of reasons, that really aren't good enough to explain it.

I've given up on finding people to connect with about books so I meet people on other levels, both romantically and friendship wise.

I think Gravity's Rainbow doesn't deserve to be compared to Ulysses in levels of difficulty. I can read the previous easily and the latter feels like cryptic nonsense.

I've only read 3 of Nietzsche's books and Genealogy, but talk like I am an authority on him. I feel I might as well be, because I'm pretty sure I've read more of him than anyone else in the Nietzsche threads.

I think leaving here would be good for me, but that would mean giving up talking about literature/philosophy so this is pretty much my only outlet.

>> No.5617336

>>5617125
Not sure about that. Unless you consider that interactions up to middle school (including the awkward years of almost nobody talking to you in midschool) or interactions with your parents, in the case of homeschooled kids that aren't allowed much time outside, is enoug.

>> No.5617340

>>5617311
It's allowed but only if you tell people that your hobby is listening to people talk and that you don't read.

>> No.5617346

>>5617335
You've read more Nietzsche than me, and I'm generally among the less retarded in Nietzsche threads.

You should compel yourself to only post when the discussion feels worthwhile literature-wise and when you have something to add to the conversation. That your 4chan involvement will be limited and rewarding.

>> No.5617349

>>5617333
I don't mean passively listening while I'm on the bus or at the store though. I sit down with the book in my home and queue up the audiobook alongside it, giving the reading/listening my full attention. The voice just helps me to understand inflections and flow as well as keep me from getting distracted. I truly am a Gen X-er when it comes to attention span.

>> No.5617367

>>5617346
I often will make what I feel is a meaningful post. However, it's like the level of discourse in general just isn't up to the level to confront it so no one responds to it. Partly because of this, it just feels like a waste of time and partly because of the negativity I think it would just be better for me to focus on my reading and writing. I haven't quite been able to convince myself to leave yet. I'm pretty close though. I've managed to cut down the time quite a bit.

>> No.5617380

>>5617318
I originally had written more but had to switch browsers and stuff.
I think you mentioned the main problem there, our brains are meant to do that kind of things. Some people have problems with making those conections and understanding, but if you don't have more content to compare and add up you'll just be passing through the motions of understanding the book without actually making a full circuit. When you are young you may have the structure to understand but you lack your own input both in general context to compare as in personal experience to connect.
At least that's what I think, hope it makes sense.

>>5617332
And why did you connect so much? Were you trying sutff out and it just made sense or is it part of a longer travel through philosophy?

>>5617333
I lol'd because it's true, trips.

>>5617335
>I think Gravity's Rainbow doesn't deserve to be compared to Ulysses in levels of difficulty.
I've read more anons say that it's just that they are both meme books for /lit/. I assume everyone is quite aware that you can pretty much just read IJ while you need some previous preparations for Ulysses.

>> No.5617392

>>5617346
>>5617367
I read a lot of Nietzsche but tend to stay out of those threads because there are a lot of idiots who take things out of context and it angers me. Nietzsche is one of those thinkers where people who haven't read him have the strongest opinions on him so it naturally turns into a hopeless mess.

>> No.5617404

>>5617335
>>5617380
Yeah, Gravity's Rainbow and Infinite Jest are both much much easier (and more fun I think) than Ulysses.

>> No.5617406

>>5617330
You are not legally allowed to consent in New York.

>> No.5617426

>>5617406
Did a single person take his side?

>> No.5617429

>>5617380
>At least that's what I think, hope it makes sense.

Yep, seems like a good diagnosis. I have more reading experience than outside life exeperience at this point, it's not too healthy.

>> No.5617432

>>5617426
All the MRA guys surely did, and it made him look worse. The note he wrote and then deleted in facebook read quite sincere and correct. The girls took away the rape acusations and they moved on, unlike /lit/

>> No.5617436

>>5617380
>And why did you connect so much? Were you trying sutff out and it just made sense or is it part of a longer travel through philosophy?
I'm not completely sure why but I always keep coming back to him after temporarily infatuations with other stuff so I decided to make proper work out of it, Although even now it's mostly on and off with periods of other things in between.

I think I mostly identify with that tension that comes with dismissing any existing ideology while also not being content with mere nihilism.

>> No.5617440

>>5617335
(cont.)
I'm also pretty much failing out of my STEM studies at University and wish I had begun with literature, but now I'm too far in and it's too late. I'll probably pass eventually with a shit GPA and get a low-level job doing something I don't want to do.

As a result I'm banking on getting published to save me from it, despite my current lack of progress. I've been throwing myself into it with a fury, but coming to a standstill for 2 weeks feels like it is hopeless.

>> No.5617463

I've never read Ayn Rand but shit on her anyway

>> No.5617465

>>5616854
I'm the same way with scifi, dystopian, electropunk, all that jazz. I haven't delved into much but what i have read from those genres is just too boring in their style of writing.

Oh and my confession is related to this: because of the writing, i did not like 1984 very much.

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>>5617346
>You should compel yourself to only post when the discussion feels worthwhile literature-wise and when you have something to add to the conversation. That your 4chan involvement will be limited and rewarding.
This is always the healthier path, but we can't always take it.

>>5617349
Read out loud. It's better than having some virtual employee to read for you and you can practice your voice.
Just try to not give each character a particular voice or you'll confuse yourself.

>>5617429
I don't know what's healthy and what's not. Posting in 4chan at 1 in the morning clearly isn't, but there is no "correct" ratio of study/living to have and anyone who tries to impose theirs is clearly compensating for his insecurities.
Just do your thing, but try to be prud at the end of the day.

>>5617436
Well, I'll consider giving him a chance when I'm done with modern aesthetics.

>>5617440
>I've been throwing myself into it with a fury
That's not how you finish a novel, dog. Daily work at set hours, and daily editing (or weekly if you do small editing while you write)

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5617522

I've been reading Explosion in a Cathedral for about a two months, i just reached the half part. I keep reading it but i dont i feel i like. I cant move on to another book.

>> No.5617528

>>5617522

put aside a night when you will just read as much as you can for like 4 hours

>> No.5617532

>>5616818
lel I'm doing this as well.

>> No.5617636

>>5617436
>>5617467
>Well, I'll consider giving him a chance
lol all this conversation I miss read your first post and assumed it was some /lit/ love a la Stirner that just happened to have a first name similar to Nietzshe. Still, studying a philosopher all by your own, if done right, it's a great endeavour.

>> No.5617719

>>5616806
you fucking kant

>> No.5617752

>>5617426
Lots of people. One of his publishers wrote a (pretty weird) article in his defense. Most of the alt lit names you would associate with him also supported him, Mira Gonzales and Megan Boyle did and I think there were others that were unconfirmed.

ER Kennedy posted that he was jealous of his success and wanted to either get him back or destroy him. A very unfortunate ex.

>> No.5617760

I didn't start with the Greeks

>> No.5617766

>>5617467
>Just do your thing, but try to be prud at the end of the day.

I should seriously and unironically put that on a poster in my room. With the typo, just to show that you don't need to be a perfectionist asshole to make good things (I'm a perfectionist asshole).

>> No.5617787

>>5617766
Make it
>Just do your thing, but try to be prud* at the end of the day
>
>*Proust

>> No.5617823

I don't like F. Scott.
I think A Farewell to Arms is Hemingway's best book.
For Whom the Bell Tolls is overrated.

>> No.5617842

>>5616796
Catcher in the Rye is shit, those who like it need to remove the dildo lodged in their ass

>> No.5617848

>>5617842
>Catcher in the Rye is all right, but nothing wowing. Those who spew undue hate about it need to remove the dildo lodged in their ass

>> No.5617850

>>5617842
Y-you're just a phony

>> No.5617890

Despite disliking Shoplifting from.American Apparel I have the desire to read Taipei.

>> No.5618000

I started with the Mayans

>> No.5618021

>>5618000
trips confirm:

copping some mayan codices first thing le morrow.

>> No.5618036

>>5617002

what level of difficulty would you compare it to? is it really that far outside the bounds of stuff like Absalom, Absalom and The Waves?

>> No.5618086

>>5616806

In critique threads, I always give very positive comments but they're actually secretly sarcastic.

>> No.5618197

>>5616796
>the face of a generation

>> No.5618217
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>>5616796
I love Zizek so much. I became a communist thanks to ziz.

>> No.5618289

>>5618217
Fuck I don't know whether to put this picture in my /fit/ or /lit/ folder

>> No.5618320

>>5618289

>/fit/ folder

you actually save pictures of buff dudes in a special little folder? red flag yo

>> No.5618324

>>5618217
My god, it's pure aesthetics

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>>5618320
n-no homo

>> No.5618337

>>5616796
i've seriously considered sending in my science fiction short stories with a woman's pen name. i want to do this because i believe there is a massive conspiracy in place by the editors of the flagship magazines to prefer the stories of minority writers despite the quality of the work.

the only reason i haven't done this is i'm not sure how i would explain myself when i finally pull the reveal.

>> No.5618339

I don't give a shit about any of the Modernists and I agree with Harold Bloom about nearly everything.

>> No.5618350

>>5618337
Just tell them you're a woman trapped in a man's body. That way you'd get even more famous. Albeit with the wrong crowd for the wrong reasons.

>> No.5618351

>>5618337
>conspiracy
It's called affirmative action. It's done transparently. My question is how I can get publishers to see that I'm a homo without writing about sex.

>> No.5618357

>>5618351
ive thought about just pretending to be gay. then i get all the benefits of affirmative action without anyone being able to call my bluff.

not like im getting laid anyway, lol.

>> No.5618361

>>5616818
I'm doing this also, but I'm not asking for permission.

Anyway is my love history, not hers.

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>>5618350
>Just tell them you're a woman trapped in a man's body.

go one step further
tell them you a man who is trapped in a woman who is trapped in a man's body.
or even better that you are a woman who is trapped in a man who is trapped in a woman who is trapped in a man's body. like those russian dolls

p.s. don't forget to write about the dolls and say that they symbolize the complicated sexual identification of those russian doll makers who borrowed them from japan so they symbolize the complicated identification of japanese too and that their existence proves that you don't pull your literary agent's legs out and it's very intolerant not to publish a book of such an unhappy and unique but strong person like you

p.p.s. pic related, it's a piece of pure darkness trapped in a catman trapped in a ramman trapped in a woman trapped in a woman trapped in a man's body. a bit too edgy

>>5618357
the word spoken becomes reality

>> No.5618462

my favourite pynchon novel is vineland

>> No.5618520

>>5616818
i did this two days ago but she said she was busy and today sat with someone else

also i dont know her

>> No.5618531

>>5617034
I just finished The Plague. It was a chore to read, not very interesting.

>> No.5618685

>>5617034

I can't remember the last time I didn't finish a book. I generally am able to finish 3 books a week so it doesn't matter that much if one is wasted. That being said, I barely made it through On the Road last week, it was a brutal experience and made me forget that literature is good

>> No.5618691

>>5617842
That's not a confession you illiterate piece of shit.

>> No.5618699

>>5617823
>For Whom the Bell Tolls is overrated
No it's not. Everybody knows it's adventure genre fiction shit. The Sun Also Rises and A Farewell to Arms are widely considered the two best Hummingway novels, so your opinion is not even edgy.

And The Great Gatsby is a good book.

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I once asked a girl to model for me while I made a sketch of her. I neglected to tell her I made a word-sketch so when she took a break to see my progress and saw a wall of text she was like omgwtf.

I never heard from her again and she avoided me forever.

tfw >long straw locks falling in cascades of hay coloured seduction
>bosom like that of a mother whose child has just been brought upon the gray world

Kill me

>> No.5618710

>>5618708
LMOA
M
O
A

Good job.
10/10 would model for.

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>>5618708
>I once asked a girl to model for me while I made a sketch of her. I neglected to tell her I made a word-sketch so when she took a break to see my progress and saw a wall of text she was like omgwtf.

>> No.5618724

>>5618351
Present yourself as a fag sf writer.

>> No.5618727

>>5618710
>10/10 would model for

R-really?

>> No.5618735

>>5618351
Do what Wilde did and stuff your prose with descriptions of scents, lilacs, males waxing misogyny all casual, etc.

>> No.5618736 [DELETED] 

I wrote this in twenty minutes at a writer's society meet-up. I don't think it's bad considering.

http://pastebin.com/zXsy8L8R

>> No.5618739

>>5616878
quite cringe

>> No.5618755

>>5616796
I want to meet up with /lit/ qts but I am from Croatia so I am the only one in the country who posts here.

>> No.5618929

>>5618755
Serb bro here. There are /lit/ guys in Belgrade.

>> No.5618934

>>5618929
Serbs read a lot more and there are more of you.
I feel ashamed that you have translated Tbotns and we havent.

>> No.5618945

>>5616893

You mean, you like science fiction but hate space adventures/operas.

There are literally less than 10 actual science fiction authors. Look up muh Dick's definition of SF and you'll see why.

>> No.5618967

I'm pretty sure I've never read any of the books /lit/ considers patrician. I mostly read fantasy and sci-fi.

>> No.5618975

I feel uncomfortable around faggots.

Also, I love Brett Easton Ellis.

>> No.5618979

>>5616854
Agreed.

Specially with the scifi thing.

>> No.5618983

>>5617311
I use them to multi task for books that I don't care much for.

>> No.5618987

>>5618337
>Be pure white alpine.
>Mom gives me the name Keenan
Thank you affirmative action naming.

>> No.5618988

>>5618727
Ya, really. Although, I am a 6'5" guy.

>> No.5618990

>>5616818
I did this with my last girlfriend because she had so many intricacies to her character
I split with her recently because she became so stressful towards the end. I guess I should've expected it, people with the most interesting personalities are usually the ones who are also the most difficult

>> No.5618995

>>5618406
I mean, you may become a little gay, but he wont go full homo.

>> No.5619152

>>5616951

>talking shit on Asimov

I'm gonna go binge read him again.

>> No.5619172

>>5617467
>Well, I'll consider giving him a chance when I'm done with modern aesthetics.
You should. For a first read I recommend jumping into it with something enticing like Beyond Good & Evil so you get enthused and then if you like it take a more sensible structural approach.

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>>5618086
You fiend!!

>>5618337
If affirmative action gets you the spot won't be as a woman but as a transwoman. Keep that in mind.

>>5618361
Your aproach is both saner and more realistic.
The emotions are property of the one who feels them, otherwise everyone would react the same way to a person and life would be pretty boring.

>>5618406
That's a beautiful matryoshke. All the ones i've seen are fairly repetitive.

>>5618520
>sat with someone else
High school?

>>5618708
Well, you could had told her and she should had noticed since writing and drawing look really different. Sounds like a cute idea, though. You should try it again letting the model know.

Siting down for an hour to just describe a person is bound to come up with some stupid shit here and there, you shouldn't be too rough on your production.

>>5618724
as THE fag sf writter

>>5618975
You just need to spend more time around them.

>> No.5619180

I greatly enjoy the works of Andrew Hussie and Homestuck is a post-modern masterpiece.

>> No.5619206

I consider Philmarilion to be the best work of art of the last 20 years.

http://per.vyrd.net/of/utv.pdf

And now you do, too!

>> No.5619218

i love descriptive writing. it is my favourite.

i don't read much. or fast.

>> No.5619235

>>5616796
I abandoned This Side of Paradise after less than 30 pages

>> No.5619255

>>5618320
>red flag

>> No.5619325

>>5618217
>zyzzek

>> No.5619330

I'm going to a show tonight.

>> No.5619379

>>5619330
what sort of show?

>> No.5619383

>>5619379
Slowdive at the 930

>> No.5619388

>>5619383
i don't know what any of those words means

>> No.5619391

I message Kolsti Nguyen on tumblr and sometimes he responds

>> No.5619393

>>5619388
Do you even /mu/?

>> No.5619401

>>5619393
no i do not share a music taste with /mu/

>> No.5619404

>>5619401
Me neither.

I was just asking if you were into music.

>> No.5619405

>>5618708
now this is patrician

>> No.5619408

>>5619404
i've yet to find an artist of the 21st century that i like

>> No.5619415

>>5616854
I think the same about the scifi thing, but I make a step beyond.

The best scifi i've ever see is not on books, but on manga/graphic novels and, sometimes, on movies. Maybe because, in these mediums, you see things and understand better the world that authors try to build. Literature has a bad time to portrait things that don't exist.

>> No.5619416

>>5619408
Grizzly bear
Bloc party
Yeezy
Foals
Tokyo police club
Local natives
Deadmau5
Bombay bicycle club
Old school arctic monkeys
Black keys

>> No.5619428

I'm reading the Stand and other post apocalyptic works for something to do between episodes of the Walking Dead to keep the hype up.

>> No.5619434

>tfw I'm in my religions class
>tfw I don't really care about it all that much
>tfw the stuff we cover is interesting
>tfw this knowledge is not as practical as it is trivial
>tfw I come to class just to check out my professor
>tfw

>> No.5619436

>>5619428
But the TV series is crap.

>> No.5619442

>>5619434
Pics?

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>>5619442
She's a cutie

>> No.5619456

>>5619448
nice painting.

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>>5619172
When I was growing up all we had at home was a compilation of aphorisms and I felt that would be worse than not reading the real books.
I think I saw a copy of Beyond in a use bookstore, thanks for the rec.

>>5619180
Go to bed Idea Channel's subpar Louis C.K.

>>5619391
When people wrote in my horrible teen fotolog where I uploaded my short stories before tumblr or blogspot as we know it existed I also answered. Why would he reject attention when he's asking for it?

>>5619408
Well, a lot of 21st century artist started more than a decade before. I doubt any great band got famous in their first 10 or 15 years, even less in a world where you can share your stuff through the internet before being really good and deserving of fame.

>>5619428
Read Day of the Trifids, it ruined my enjoyment of lesser post apocaliptic stuff.

>>5619434
>>tfw the stuff we cover is interesting
>but it's trivial
So many things in life are trivial, if you get interested you should pursue it.

>>5619448
Looks bangable. Moar?

>>5619206
That's sort of interesting. Starting with all the bad reactions sort of make it sounds like a huge ironic piece, but ti's too much tor ead for just one joke.

>> No.5619498

>>5619456
??????????

>> No.5619501

>>5619489
>I doubt any great band got famous in their first 10 or 15 years
the beatles
the rolling stones
pink floyd
the smiths
the who
the doors
the kinks
led zeppelin
sex pistols
the clash

>> No.5619508

>>5619501
who?

>> No.5619511

>>5619508
what is this comment?
bait? a joke? sheer ignorance?
stop

>> No.5619518

>>5619511
what is this life?
bait? a joke? sheer ignorance?
stop

>> No.5619519

>>5619489
Yeah but you're a tranny and no one likes you

>> No.5619520

>>5616801

Then how did you respond to the OP, wise guy?

>> No.5619525

>>5619520
his brother probably commented for him
...something something rimbaud...boipussy....sadfrog...

>> No.5619532

>>5619498
He's ridiculing your pixels.

>>5619501
Yes and no.
>Floyd
>zeppelin
>the who
>superbands in general
They have years of personal study before becoming a band, they would had recorded themselves for youtube if they were to be born in our current time.
Some of them had years of career before forming those bands, with lesser known bands that /mu/ would love if they cared about that.

>the beatles
>stones
>pistols
>clash
Yeah, they appeared and shined. But they were really tied to their time, their modern correspondents would get ignored by the sea of very similar stuff clogging the net.

The game has changed, it happens.

>>5619511
He was joking, calm down, for god's sake.

>> No.5619534

>>5619519
People like and dislike me for so many other reassons than how I feel under my pants that it barely matters.

>>5619525
ferg.jpg

>> No.5619535

I hoard books. I mean I literally have way too fucking many books. I've got a decent job that enables me to buy pretty much whatever I want, so what do I do? I rent a 5x10 climate controlled storage unit and fill it with thousands and thousands of books that I'll never read. A couple of weeks ago I went shopping one night at a used book store and bought about 200 books.

>> No.5619537

>>5619532
don't tell him i was joking you fuck.
honor amung baiters.

>> No.5619538

>>5619535
what the fuck

>> No.5619541

>>5619535
This is pretty fun man. How do you usually decide what to read? I hope you at least go browsing through your books as if it were your personal library.

>> No.5619545

>>5619448
Wtf she looks like a poorly made computer character from the 90s. Also her head is perfectly round and her eyes are sown shut

>> No.5619550

>>5619534
So basically you're aware that everyone considers you a sick freak and it's why you avatarfag tl;dr posts no one reads all day!

>> No.5619551

My Book of the New Sun online order never came.

>> No.5619555

>>5616796
>tfw he just bites off pieces of garlic and cucumber and spits them into his nightly salad and you're still just sitting at home masturbating

>> No.5619571

>>5619538
Yeah. Seriously. Apart from owning a shit ton of books, I live pretty minimally and like to keep things tidy and organized.

>>5619541
Honestly, whenever I binge on buying books, I'll keep one or two out of whatever I buy and then just put the rest in boxes for storage. Usually, I get on some kind of thematic kick and buy a bunch of books of a certain genre or author or style, read the most commonly read/discussed/recognizable ones, and then just box up the rest.

For example, I got it in my head that I wanted to read some classic sci fi fiction a while back. So to start out I just got about 50 Isaac Isamov books. I read I, Robot and Foundation, which I really enjoyed, but by the time I had finished those two, I was ready for something different, so I bought a bunch of other random classic sci fi stuff, and by the time I was done there, I was ready to move one. (I did keep out Isamov's Guide to Shakespeare, though, since it seemed really interesting. I hope to read a few random things in it before it goes in a box, though.)

>> No.5619574

>>5616796
when was tao on half in the bag?

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>>5619535
Have you considered opening a sort of particular library? Back before the state took over libraries were just that, people with books who shared*. You could make an extra buck (to buy more books) and help people out.

>>5619537
You were baiting? I assumed you were making a joke. People worry too much here.

>>5619550
Nah, I post pics when I want to keep track of my posts without having to check them. Calling them avatrs would mean that I actually pay attention to the emotion expressed in them, that would too much work.
And I prefer making huge ignorable posts than many small ones and get the thread full of myself.
If you hate them that's just a little extra.

>>5619551
The fuck? Did you complain?

>>5619555
He does know how to live life, doesn't he.


*Don't check wiki, I'm making that up. But sounds reasonable, right?

>> No.5619589

>>5619580

they are avatars because they signify your posts, actually they would be less avatars if you used them as emoticons because it's their proper usage, and so you actually are breaking the global rules

not like i care but what you do is more than enough to get a ban if our janitor wasn't kind

if you want to keep track of your posts get a tripcode

>> No.5619591

>>5619580
>Have you considered opening a sort of particular library? Back before the state took over libraries were just that, people with books who shared*. You could make an extra buck (to buy more books) and help people out.
I've thought about something like that once I have a bigger place and have room to actually go through everything. I know that friends of mine have tons of my books. Every once and a while somebody will give me a few back, and I won't even remember buying them, let alone loaning them out. Since I'm constantly buying and then boxing and then storing, the stuff I've got around my home is constantly changing, so when people come over, they might ask for something that I've bought recently but never would've read.

At the very least, when I start going through stuff, I know I'm going to have shit tone to donate/give as gifts/etc., because I know I have a tendency to buy books I already own and like if I see a different edition/cover/vintage/etc. version.

>> No.5619595

>>5619580
Wow you are such a pointless retard I don't even know where to begin. To keep track of your posts? How are you even this stupid? Legitimately you are a fucking moron. Of course you would be the same sort of retard who replies to every single post like anyone gives a fuck about your histrionic pathetic self. We both know that you repulse everyone you encounter and it's why you apparently sit on 4chan samefagging empty threads and then admitting to it.

>> No.5619598

>>5619580
>>5619589
Obvious samefag. The jig is up.

>> No.5619605

>>5619598
I like the cut of your jig

>> No.5619623

>>5616796
I only started reading seriously a month ago.

>> No.5619640

>>5619589
I've considered it. But I see worse reactions to having a trip just posting certain images now and then. I really like your posts and still I see people getting mad at you for the concept of having a trip weekly.
Maybe if I ever start making those introduction to aesthetics threads I'll grab one, bit if I'm not doing content I don't see the point.

>>5619591
You need to catalgue them. It's entertaining to a point. My dad did it with all the books we had, and then took them with him when he left my mom, so there's even a practical aspect.

>>5619598
>>5619595
>caring this much
4chan covers too much of your life, you should really calm down.

>> No.5619665

i buy books but never read them. i only read library books

>> No.5619677

>>5619640
Does it make you sad thinking about daddy and how disgusted he is by you?

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What the fug.

I'm at the library and I see this.

>> No.5619820

>>5619681
is this the first time leaving your basement?

>> No.5619824

>>5619681
Whip out your dick and cum on her shoulder. That'll teach her.

>> No.5619829

>>5619820
Probably is the first time that guy leaves his basement.
>>5619681
burn it with fire and then come back to report your results..

>> No.5619956

>>5619255
lmao

>> No.5619972

>>5619820
Say that to my face, faggot.

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>>5619416
completely pleb. I bet you read BEE seriously.

>> No.5619995

>>5617311
harold bloom would have your ass on his tenured wall.

>> No.5620024

I'd like to ask here, I'm currently reading House of Leaves, and despite the interesting concept and tension, it's not really getting to me. Does the book get better, I'm at the part where they discover the house is like 1/4 inches larger in the inside than on the outside.

>> No.5620036

>>5619983
Of course I do, faggot.

Fite me irl, bitch nigga.

>> No.5620075

>>5619416
>old school arctic monkeys
my sides
i love when people add these kinds of qualifiers to shitty bands

shit taste

>>5619408
I don't know anybody who doesn't like Radiohead, but right now the only genre doing anything novel is hip hop

>> No.5620084

>>5620075
>

Try harder, /mu/tant.

>> No.5620086

>>5620084
don't even browse /mu/. it's the truth.

>> No.5620166

>>5620075
I know a ton of people who don't like Radiohead, including me

>> No.5620205

>>5620075
But Radiohead appear in the 90's-

>> No.5620206

>>5620205
but they are active in the 21st century
limiting it to bands that formed in 2000 or after is retarded

>> No.5620262

>>5620206
I know, I know. But the original anon said "from the XXI century", otherwise stuff like U2 or Metallica (just to name some bands) would be open to the list.
It pains to say it, but it's been 15 years since the 90's

>> No.5620265

>>5619235
Smart move. Shit gets bleh at/after the interlude. It really *feels* like it’s his first book

>> No.5620599

I enjoy Murakami.

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5620644

The only reason I read is to try and validate my existence by feigning intelligence I don't have.

>> No.5620761

im tao lin

>> No.5620782

I bought a nook for the sole purpose of pirating books and reading them for free. Anyone else do this?

>> No.5620805

I love my kindle, but I am frustrated it makes it hard to show off on public transport

>> No.5620817

>>5620782

yeah, literally every e-reader owner that i know

>> No.5620831

>>5619535
Do you actually read them? I agree that you should start a library, if you have the capability.

>> No.5620845

>>5620599
So do I. He is a pleasant break from some of the more grueling philosophical works I force myself to read.