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what does /lit/ think of performance art?

>> No.5611699

does performance art include professional acting?

>> No.5611708

>>5611693
pretentious arsholes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY

>> No.5611722

>>5611708
>people clapping at the end

sasuga USA piggu

>> No.5611742

Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, just like with anything else. Most of what people are referring to when they say "performance art" is really terrible and pretentious, though. See >>5611708

>> No.5611760

>>5611708
Fucking hipsters I swear.

>> No.5611802

>>5611693

Olivier de Sagazan's stuff is pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gYBXRwsDjY

>> No.5611822

We are all performance artists. Why do these people think they are special?

>> No.5611867

There are really good stuff but people keep propagating the ones that should be ignored, maybe because they like feeling superior to people who have interesting ideas and try them out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX1-xuCNIeg

>> No.5611886

>>5611822
>I'm performing all the time
Dude, you should try to relax a bit.

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>> No.5611905

>>5611893
i like this picture because it shows what's actually behind "muh old art" people. it's ludicrous that they really are jelly.

>> No.5611908

>>5611893
heh

>> No.5611909

>>5611893
>can't even finish his own work
>criticizes others

Dragon just screams neckbeard boy scout

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>> No.5611916

>>5611912
The fact that that would eventuall happen is a part of the artwork

>> No.5611920

>>5611905
>>5611916
pretentious pomo faggots

>> No.5611927

>>5611920
>100% buzzwords
stay mad

>> No.5611936

>>5611722
It's polite to clap at the end of a performance. It's a pleasantry, not a review.

>> No.5611939

>>5611916
Oh i get it! One man's treasure is another man's trash

>> No.5611958

>>5611693
You mean poetry? It's for attention whores.

>> No.5612066

>>5611867
hectic! that was nuts

>> No.5612172

>>5611905
Yep.

In fact, the museum curator isa fucking genius to put these pieces side by side. The dragon is obviously a work of self importance and plain vanity.

>> No.5612203

>>5612172
He clearly didn't give a fuck. Who cares about some exhibition where the merit is having finished college? No one earned that space besides paying for it through their courses.

>> No.5612222

>>5612203
I'm supprised they even have exhibitions for Fine Arts BAs, I would think you would need to be shooting for at least a BFA if not an MFA to actually deserve a post-program showcase.

>> No.5612236

>>5611693
From what I've heard about that guy he's a cool guy and I'm glad he's raising awareness.

>>5611708
what a load of shit

>> No.5612397

>>5611916
das deep dog

>> No.5612570

>>5612236
what's cool about him?

>> No.5612580

>>5612222
They some times do that to get the talented but shy people to show their fucking stuff off. Learnign how to set an exposition or make a work for something that's kind of an antology is part of the correct training, too.

>> No.5612607

>>5612570
He does a form of protest that russian thugs don't mown how to deal with.

>> No.5612616

>>5612236
Awareness for what exactly?

>>5612607
Self-harm isn't protest. In any case, he can't intelligently articulate what he's protesting against, and even if there are people willing to listen to him one simply cannot take it seriously even if one wanted to.

>> No.5612644

>>5612616
Self harm most certainly is protest.

>> No.5613530

>>5611916
>>5611912
>implying this isn't increasing the monetary value at least tenfold

>> No.5613768

>>5612644
> Self harm most certainly is protest.
Protest against oneself? Yeah, I guess.

>> No.5613839

Art that imitates life is barely art at all.

>> No.5613853

>>5611708
Gonna copy-paste what I said about this on /int/ - >>>/int/32105301 - in here:

This really is not that bad. What's more interesting is the conservative responses. So an undergrad made a sexualised art-piece that came off as kind of pretentious? The whole theme of cultural internalisation in the context of postmodern cultural anomie (the alphabet spaghettis being overloaded symbols; the whole 'simulacra', signified and signifier, thing, where the symbolic, only symbolic of itself, becomes meaningless; and then her mixed despair: regret that the symbols have lost meaning; gladness that their meaninglessness is now clear to her) is still kind of interesting, anyway. I'd give her a low distinction-high credit.

>> No.5613861

>>5611893

the sculpture is of a guy *unable* to suck himself off, fwiw.

If you like art that can only possibly make you go 'Yes, dragon', it's your taste and that's okay, but I wouldn't enjoy your company.

>> No.5613877

>>5613853
Your interpretation is bordering on free association.

>> No.5613887

>>5611893
Those pieces really do go well together. A failed autofellatio and a failure to complete a sculpture of a dragon are the same act.

>> No.5613893

>>5613877
Bordering. Except that it's called 'Interior Semiotics'.

>> No.5613961

>>5613893
The problem with these kinds of artwork is they basically use a title like this to point to a huge body of ultra-vague/versatile scholarship (like semiotics) instead of containing any kind of information themselves. They exist to be interpreted.

I could stick a piece of gum to a pedestal in a museum and title it "interior semiotics" and then we could talk about how it's pointing out the inability of objects to mean anything in themselves, in their "interior," or about how all the meanings we put onto it are projections based on our own associations on a piece of gum, etc. There's a real sense in which things like this are interchangeable.

This doesn't mean I dislike performance art. I actually really like a lot of it. I think it can be extremely interesting and meaningful. The thing is it's really easy for it to be somebody just doing something weird.

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>>5613861
enjoyed this post

>>5613887
and this one

>> No.5613984

>>5613961
>a piece of gum stuck on a pedestal
>weird
You need to get out more. I see gum stuck on shit everyday at the bus stop.

>> No.5613987

>>5613893
>>5613961
To give you a contrast I think "The Artist is Present" is great. It doesn't purport to be a kind of short concept development project like a novel, as "interior semiotics" does, so much as an intimate human experience. It's making use of the medium (the performer and the performance) to the utmost, and isolating something from everyday life to highlight it by defamiliarization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Abramovi%C4%87#The_Artist_Is_Present:_March_2010.C2.A0.E2.80.93_May_2010

>> No.5614060

who was that woman again who let the audience do whatever the fuck they want with her, and then some guy poured gasoline over her and was about to lit her up, and just to be stopped by some of the staff members?

>> No.5614065

>>5614060
yoko ono