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[Anonymous No.5611121]

>2014
>not being a Platonist / neo-Platonist

enjoy your cave plebs

[Anonymous No.5611129]

I'm Catholic, nigga.

Pic unrelated. It's a solipsist at a gathering of deontologists.

[Anonymous No.5611144]

Point me to one decent argument from the dialogues
Protip:you can't

[Anonymous No.5611156]

>materialist/utilitarian
>you're a dull bureaucrat assessing information and calculating the most efficient course of action

>nihilist/relativist/perspectivist/phenomenalist/subjectivist
>you're a beast that's the victim of its immediate perceptions, or an angsty loner in a dark world that makes no sense

>Aristotelian
>constantly running through syllogisms in your head hoping that one day you'll reason correctly and be happy

>Platonist
>a calm wizard patiently waiting in solitude for the Platonic heaven to reveal its mysteries to your intuitive mind, a wandering knight in search of the Holy Grail

why is Platonism so fun mates? No wonder all the great poets/artists have been Platonists at heart.

[Anonymous No.5611157]

>>5611121
>Platonist / neo-Platonist
those are different schools of thought, bruh

[Anonymous No.5611164]

>not being a logical positivist

[Anonymous No.5611178]

>>5611164

[Anonymous No.5611182]

>>5611144
>tfw reading a Platonic Dialogue and realizing that Plato constantly uses the contrast of Socrates' commonplace words with his heavenly ideas to contrast the world of matter and the world of form
>tfw you realize that the real platonic dialogues aren't words on a page, but a kind of magical incantation that transports one to the real dialogue which is occurring between one's soul and the heavenly world of forms

[Anonymous No.5613215]

Plato is my favorite philosopher.

[Anonymous No.5613224]

>>5611121
plado pls

[Anonymous No.5613462]

>>5611121
>enjoy your cave plebs

i chuckled

[Anonymous No.5613490]

>not being an existentialist

Oh well. Absolute freedom means you're even free to be a retard.

[Anonymous No.5614905]

>>5611129
That picture is so sad.

[Anonymous No.5614923]

>>5614905
Why? Because of the melancholy fat guy standing alone? There are four other people in that picture who are doing the exact same thing as him.

[Anonymous No.5614925]

>not being a transcendental idealist
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.5614937]

>Plato and Socrates
>not figments of Aristotle's imagination

when will you faggots realise that Aristotle made Plato up and 'his' views should be seen as a parody

[Anonymous No.5614970]

>>5614923
It is sad because he is obese.

[Anonymous No.5614980]

>>5614970
He's being more social than you though...

[Anonymous No.5614989]

>>5611121

>tfw will never experience the absolute spirit...
>tfw you will never see the dialectic in its beautiful totality

[Anonymous No.5614992]

>>5611129

Whats up with those fake mustaches and that fucking spider on the wall?
I would elope with the guy to play dungeons and dragons or something.

[Anonymous No.5615017]

How's your first term at college going?

[Anonymous No.5615031]

>>5614923
Yeah but he's a fat neckbeard.

[Anonymous No.5615080]

>>5614980
Probably not, and even if he was, I'd be fine with it. Obesity is saddening tho.

[Anonymous No.5615090]

>>5615080
Sure it is, hamburgler.

[Anonymous No.5615119]

>>5615090
I'm not even sure what you're meaning to imply here.

[Anonymous No.5615155]

>>5611121
Only someone who has been born outside the cave can come inside the cave and rescue the indwelling prisoners. And that is only Jesus Christ the Son of God.

[Anonymous No.5615165]

>>5615155
>Implying Jesus doesn't owe everything to the Ur-Quelle

[Anonymous No.5615171]

>mfw you are trapped in the fly bottle

[Anonymous No.5615213]

>>5613490
there is no freedom

[Anonymous No.5615236]

>>5611156

>implying the lucretian materialism isn't the most poetically fertile philosophy

[Anonymous No.5615499]

>>5611121
>Neo platonist
I am fairly certain Al-Ghazali destroyed any argument that school of thought had for good.

[Anonymous No.5615533]

>>5614989
>tfw will never experience the absolute spirit...
But you experience parts of it constantly.

[Anonymous No.5615543]

Christianity is Platonism for people who think the Forms are a dumb concept and prefer a more relatable deity than the Good.

[Anonymous No.5615553]

>>5614989
But if you're a Christian you DO experience absolute Spirit whenever you're among believers...

[Anonymous No.5615576]

>>5615543
This, so much fucking this.

As a bonus, a true Platonist will NEVER be a fedora-tipper.

We should make Platonism the new more around 4chan.

Instead of saying moralistic bullshit like "what a degenerate" we can preach glorious Socratic ethics like "Nobody willingly does wrong."

[Anonymous No.5615591]

>>5615576
My point was that Christianity is superior.

[Anonymous No.5615616]

>>5615591
Nobody would willingly believe that.

[Anonymous No.5615624]

>>5611156
>Platonism
>not nihilism

>perspectivism
>nihilism

Begone, weak, degenerate corrupter of mankind.

About life, the wisest men of all ages have come to the same conclusion: it is no good. Always and everywhere one has heard the same sound from their mouths — a sound full of doubt, full of melancholy, full of weariness of life, full of resistance to life. Even Socrates said, as he died: "To live — that means to be sick a long time: I owe Asclepius the Savior a rooster." Even Socrates was tired of life. What does that prove? What does it demonstrate?

The irreverent idea that the great sages are types of decline first occurred to me precisely in a case where it is most strongly opposed by both scholarly and unscholarly prejudice: I realized that Socrates and Plato were symptoms of degeneration, tools of the Greek dissolution, pseudo-Greek, anti-Greek (Birth of Tragedy, 1872). The consensus of the sages — I recognized this ever more clearly — proves least of all that they were right in what they agreed on: it shows rather that they themselves, these wisest men, shared some physiological attribute, and because of this adopted the same negative attitude to life — had to adopt it.

What is good?—Whatever augments the feeling of power, the will to power, power itself, in man.
What is evil?—Whatever springs from weakness.
What is happiness?—The feeling that power increases—that resistance is overcome.
Not contentment, but more power; not peace at any price, but war; not virtue, but efficiency (virtue in the Renaissance sense, virtu, virtue free of moral acid).
The weak and the botched shall perish: first principle of our charity. And one should help them to it.

[Anonymous No.5615643]

>>5615616
No one but Christians.

[Anonymous No.5615653]

>>5615543
this oversimplification is popular but untrue

[Anonymous No.5615682]

>>5615653
Why?

[Anonymous No.5616038]

>>5615616
gud1

[Anonymous No.5616051]

>>5611129
the spider disturbs me.

[Anonymous No.5616076]

>>5611121
>platonist
>posts a picture of Socrates

yup, no

[Anonymous No.5616577]

>>5611129
How sad.

[Anonymous No.5616607]

>>5616076
Are you serious? That's Plato. Also, you're revealing yourself as massive pleb because Plato describes Socrates' features and they are not at all like that picture displays.

Socrates is in that painting (school of athens), see if you can find him.

[Anonymous No.5618101]

>>5613224

[Anonymous No.5618130]

>>5611129

>ebic pope

[Anonymous No.5618251]

>>5615017
>term

GTFO Bongistani

[Anonymous No.5618411]

>>5616607
find waldo for college boys :^)

[Anonymous No.5618441]

>>5611121
>2014
>letting any sort of -ism or school of thought define you
ironically youve trapped your self in your own version of platos cave.