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Where should i start reading?

>> No.5593599

tumblr

>> No.5593600

Odyssey, Iliad, Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost.

Don't bother with the rest of it, it's of little consequences.

>> No.5593620

>>5593595
Don't.

>> No.5593632

>>5593595
Start with the Greeks.

>> No.5593640

>>5593632
how is this not the first reply.

disgusting.

>> No.5593643

>>5593620
>>5593600
>>5593599

What is with the irrational hatred of poetry on this fucking board?

Are you all so pathetically plebeian that you can't handle the least bit of abstraction?

>> No.5593653

>>5593595
Depends on preference, I prefer Symbolism and whatnot, so I started with Baudelaire and moved from there. But rhyming shit is cool too.

>> No.5593708

>>5593643
OP has no interest in poetry, he just wanted a cacophony of meme kids spamming "boipussy"

Theres a proper poem thread every few weeks, lurk more, or browse the archive.

>> No.5593744

>>5593708
I'm not trolling
>>5593653
I just finished une saison en enfer, so i was looking for some guidance, i do not extend myself on purpose, given that english is not my first language

>> No.5593790

Start with the Egyptians, then Sumerians, Akkadian, Eblaite, Ugaritic the list could go on

>> No.5593794

>>5593595
Start with writers who came East from Thrace, West from Byzantium and East of Italy. These people had a great grip on poetry.

>> No.5593802

>>5593600
The Uninteresting Faggot strikes again. Support the Uninteresting Faggot(TM).

>> No.5593809

>>5593653
But most of Baudelaire's poetry is in rhymes.

>>5593595
Start with the classical poets of your native language, those most rumored for their clarity and balance. They should be the least off-putting and confusing, so they make for good entry point.

>> No.5593842

>>5593595
boipussy

>> No.5595517

>>5593595
''should''
Try: ''did you (and would you, if you could start over)''

Keep this in mind:
Treating poetry like work = Fail
Not having poetry sweeten your own writing = Fail
Paying to be educated in it = Fail

>> No.5595608

>>5593744
What's your original language?

>> No.5597568

>>5593595

Read any of the Romantic poets.

Byron
Blake
Bryant
Keats

Good shit.

>> No.5597580

>>5593643
I can't handle it. Reading poetry feels like a chore.

>> No.5597582

>>5597568
This. Keats was an absolute genius. Blake was clinically insane. Byron is the funniest poet I've ever read. But Shelley is my favourite for his pure idealism.

Also Shakespeare.

>> No.5597585

i posted some poems on my subreddit /r/mypoems

check em out :)

>> No.5597586

>>5593653
Lmao

Way to out yourself as translation reading fuckhead

Baudelaire's best stuff is in perfect alexandrine. Fuck off

>> No.5597674

>>5593643
>poetry
>abstraction

wut

>> No.5597685

>>5597582

Shame on me! I've always overlooked Shelley; I'll need to make a point of reading him. Also, I notice you didn't say anything about Bryant; I know he isn't outstanding, but he has some solid works and wouldn't be a bad start for someone new to poetry.

>> No.5597853

>>5593595
If you wanna get interested from the get-go read Alan Ginsberg.

"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness,
starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking
for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly
connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking
in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating
across the tops of cities contemplating jazz,
who bared their brains to Heaven under the El and saw
Mohammedan angels staggering on tenement roofs
illuminated,
who passed through universities with radiant cool eyes
hallucinating Arkansas and Blake-light tragedy among the
scholars of war. . ." - Excerpt from "Howl"

>> No.5597903

>>5593595
>tfw just today found out his name isn't pronounced rim-bawd
I should leave my room someday

>> No.5597922

>>5597903
. . . h-how is it pronounced?

Not that I don't know or anything, I . . . Just need to make sure you REALLY know. . . .

>> No.5598027

>>5597586
No one said it had to be in English.

>> No.5598041

>>5597922
Rim-bow

>> No.5598044

>>5598041
You mean Rim-Job.

>> No.5598058

>>5597922
>>5598041
I just realized I sounded out rim in french, it should say

rem (as in REM sleep) bow

>> No.5598063

>>5597903
Or perhaps you shouldn't.

>> No.5598069

i ordered a book by rod mckuen off of amazon for like $5 total.

it's nice to read when you're taking a break from the current book you're reading

>> No.5598127

anyone know any good resources to learn the concepts and "rules"--or so to say, of poetry?

>> No.5598131

>>5598041
>>5598058
Nope. It would be more like a version of the word rainbow but without pronouncing the "n", if that makes sense.

>> No.5598156

>>5598127
stephen frys book

no joke

>> No.5598188
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5598188

>>5597582
>Blake was clinically insane
>discounting Blake willy-nilly
>failing to recognise the greatest Romantic genius

>> No.5598192

>>5598156
well i'm a newfag so i'm just going to assume you're not trolling, thanks, i'll check it out

>> No.5598212

>>5598192
im not

he explains it clearly and gives you exercises to learn about it further

>> No.5598809

>>5598192
he doesn't troll, he just gives a bad advice there
you definitely shouldn't start to read poetry with books which suggest you how exactly you should read poetry

>> No.5598830

>>5598809
>want to learn how to do something
>"don't read books on how to do this thing, just do it instead."

>> No.5599226

T.S. Eliot's "The Wasteland" is crucial.

>> No.5599235

>>5598830
poetry isn't written to be understood by those who learned how to understood it from some university textbook

the textbook will affect your future perception and you will never have your own, it possibly even make you dislike the subject

>>5599226
contrary to what they told you in the american highschool
no it is not
it's a mess too

>> No.5599328

>>5593595
At the beginning.

>> No.5599732

Take him to the Greeks

>> No.5599754

Try the poetry of Sylvia path for some depressing ones. Shakespearen sonnets are really good. If you naturally like the themes of war and violence you'd enjoy poems like "Mental Cases" by Wilfred Owen (like me).