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Confirmed: Alt lit community is full of rapists. Discuss

>> No.5531785

>>5531710
who are these people, besides the beloved towel in?

>> No.5531798

They have sex with the mentally ill Tumblr types who use rape accusations as a means of getting even.

It's their own fault.

>> No.5531814

that's it, im burning all three copies of taipei i own

>> No.5532122

I'm also a the rapist

>> No.5532126

Like tao lin didn't start that rumour himself.

>> No.5532134

>>5531710
It's the same as the youtuber community being full of molesters.

bunch of guys who probably didn't get much sex before + audience of malleable teenage girls = anonymous thought catalogue piece describing sexual assault

>> No.5532139

>>5531798
Here's your answer, OP.

>> No.5532153

>>5531814
You only have three?

>being this pleb

>> No.5532428

>>5531710
The world is full of rapists. The Alt Lit community is in the world.

Frankly, it would be surprising if the Alt Lit community wasn't full of rapists.

>> No.5532899

>>5531710
Tao Lin doesn't belong on that list. His relationship wasn't rape and it was 8 years ago, before alt lit existed. The whole premise of famous lit bro takes advantage of fan doesn't apply to him.

>> No.5532938

>>5532899
What did he do? What did these other alt-lit folks do?

>> No.5532945

>Richard Yates was published in 2010
>the events happened in 2006
>he admitted it was based on his own relationships from the starts
>no one cared until yesterday

I think the worst thing about this, for Tao, is learning that no one actually read his books.

>> No.5532962

>>5532938
Tao Lin had sex with a barely legal future F2M

>> No.5532965

>>5531798
> Victim blaming
Really now?

>> No.5532966

>>5532962
And because of our degenerate society he can't even sue her for making him retroactively gay.

>> No.5533006
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5533006

I saw Tao Lin no more than two weeks ago at the Berlin Literature Festival and now everyone's talking about rape, wtf.

Did he do it, /lit/?

>> No.5533010
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5533010

>>5533006
Yes.

>> No.5533022

>>5532965
Yeah, no. Putting some SJW label on it may work in your personal circle, but you're going to have to do better than that here.

>> No.5533035

>>5533010
God damn Tao is such a hack

>> No.5533046

>>5533010
Is this from Richard Yates? Do you mean to say he put it in the novel?

That shit is so fucking poorly written by the way.

>> No.5533049

>>5533046
>That shit is so fucking poorly written by the way.

You just don't get it man. It's post-modern or meta-modern or post-meta-modern or whatever the fuck.

>> No.5533050

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that 'having sex with someone that doesn't really wanna have sex' is categorically different than rape?

It's obviously something else. And we can discuss the something else.

>> No.5533062

>>5533050
I often end up having sex with
>muh gf
despite not really wanting to initially.

Have I been raped, lit? I will sue this bitch.

>> No.5533070

>>5531710
Was Alt lit even alive to begin with? Who will remember these jokers in even 5 years?

>> No.5533072

>>5533022
i think he was being ironic m8

>> No.5533075

>>5532945
>I think the worst thing about this, for Tao, is learning that no one actually read his books.

No shit, Alt Lit was just the new hotness. Time to move on.

>> No.5533118

>>5533050
no=no
not now=no
i don't want to=no
it's not confusing
sex is when both people want it
rape is when someone forces themselves on another, even if it's not explicitly violent or forceful seeming

>> No.5533148

>>5533050
Sexual blackmail is still a shitty thing to do.

>> No.5533156

WHAT THE FUCK IS ALT LIT

>> No.5533160

There is literally nothing, NOTHING, wrong with contemporary attempts by feminists to resituate the term 'rape' in modern victim discourse.

Why rail against it in the first place? The only real inevitable outcome of this all radical maneuvering about the term will be little other than the total banalisation of the term 'rape', if not the actual banalisation of the ACT itself.

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5533168

>>5533156

>> No.5533177

>>5533156

Lit by young hipster kids inspired by tumblr and twitter memes or the mundanity of modern life or whatever

>> No.5533178

>>5533160
this is the same dumb debate that happened in the early 1990s with 'date rape' v 'real rape'

like does beheading someone and smothering them in their sleep both being murder dilute the term murder

>> No.5533179

>>5533160
Deep & Edgy being right as always.

>> No.5533192

>>5533160
It has been more banal in the past. I can think of movies where prison rape is taken as a joke, and as much as it's complained that it has too much of a female perspective that kind of disregarding suffering has been less common in the mainstream media.

>> No.5533193

>>5533179
could you samefag any harder?

>> No.5533196

>>5533160

ALL HAIL THE KING OF /LIT/

>> No.5533203
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5533203

Why are feminists so obsessed with rape

Is it a Freudian sublimation thing

>> No.5533215

>>5533203
just a guess, but maybe because rape is an awful thing and pretty much everyone has someone they know who was raped and has been affected by it

>> No.5533218

>>5533118
>>5533148
Having sex when you don't really want to doesn't have to involve pressure. I've had sex when I didn't really feel like it because I didn't want to disappoint my gf. It's not coercion on her part, since I didn't make my own feelings clear.

>> No.5533222

>>5533203
That picture is fucking hilarious. And probably, yeah.

>> No.5533229

>>5533218
Exactly. If YOU don't make your feelings clear it's YOUR fault.

>> No.5533234

>>5533203
Probably because that's the big struggle for women right now. They have legal equality and are making great strides into the workplace (over half of my law school class was female and there are more women than men in med school). Rape is a common occurrence and a women's issue. If rape and sexual abuse can be greatly reduced through a change in the culture, then the feminist project might be nearing the end of its useful life. Not that I think this would happen in our lifetimes or anything.

>> No.5533239

>>5533203
What else do they have to fight for?
Their real love is buzzwords by the way.

>> No.5533249

>>5533234
also, even if you've never been assaulted there's always a threat that something could be done to you when you want to just do normal shit like take a walk at night or get drunk at a party

>> No.5533254

>>5533203
Wow. I didn't look at the picture when I made this post: >>5533234

The rape-pizza thing is beyond stupid. Wasting your time with bullshit like this is in no way productive. One legit criticism of feminism is that it often serves as an identity for a narcissistic and privileged female subject. Case in point.

>> No.5533255

>>5533178
>>5533178
> does beheading someone and smothering them in their sleep both being murder dilute the term murder
not really a level example insofar as both acts are already widely considered murder

probably a more insightful example would be we attempted to radically redefine the term murder such that you could be considered to have murdered a person (not just their physical body, but here construed as their "identity", which is often the locus of the politics that these people like to ply their discourse with) through non-physical, social means.

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5533260

>>5533049
>postmetamodern
that's this guy

>> No.5533261

>>5533249
because men are never on the receiving end of violence doing those things

>> No.5533262

>>5533229
I agree, but the idea that people who don't want to have sex but have it anyway are automatically victims isn't exactly correct.

Feminists have even talked about the concept of enthusiastic consent to avoid this problem.

>> No.5533263

>>5533255
That's not insightful.

>> No.5533266

suck my dick

>> No.5533272

>>5533263
It does show the original example didn't really work.

>> No.5533275

>>5533260
That's a guy? He would've been in some imperial harem or good friends with a Greek philosopher and/or statesmen if he was born in another time and place.

>> No.5533281

>>5533266
Present it.

>> No.5533283

>>5533262
>>5533229
>>5533218
I like how R. Gay put it the other night
"I think men are using the excuse of consent being complicated because they don't like the answers, implicit or explicit, they sometimes get."

>> No.5533289

>>5533260
go 2 bed kolsti

>> No.5533300

I don't see what's wrong with rape. I've been raped by fat chicks while I've been blackout drunk and it's seriously not that big a deal.

>> No.5533314

No, you're going to burn in fucking hell for that pigshit response, you'll die a virgin and you're never going to see my penis

>> No.5533316

>>5533272
Date rape is still rape. I don't understand what was wrong with the original example.

And we're very tolerant of the flexibility of words. Alternative or figurative usages don't lead to the "banalization" of terms like "rape." In ten years, if someone says, "[So-and-so] raped me," people are going to take it just as seriously (or just as flippantly) as they do now, that is, if they aren't taking rape accusations MORE seriously by then. When reading or hearing something, people fairly naturally adjust to the context of the words and the mores of the speech community.

>> No.5533339

>>5533283
If an answer given to them is unclear, then to say they have 'got' it is meaningless. If an answer is not sufficiently distinguishable from a different answer, that's obviously the fault of the person giving the answer.

>> No.5533345

>>5533203
Because it's literally the only real problem women in the west are more likely to face because they're women. Besides under representation in video games.
It's also taken very seriously so they can find people who will listen.

>> No.5533347

>>5533314
I wonder what a tripfag dick looks like.

>> No.5533353

>>5533255
Isn't there a legal term if you actively push someone and convince them to kill themselves? That's like killing them without actually touching them, I guess.

>> No.5533367

>>5533345
um they laws trying to limit access to abortions and birth control are also very real, as well as the ways a lot of laws disproportionately effect poor women plus a lot of other things that don't get enough attention

I understand that the 'face of feminism' gets copted by middle class white girls who may be less affected by these things, but there are tons of real issues, with rape being a huge one.

>> No.5533382

>>5533367
>um they laws trying to limit access to abortions and birth control are also very real
Maybe if you drink the hardest form of Huffington Post Kool-Aid known to man. If a western woman wants to flush out a fetus or get birth control, there's very little stopping them.
>with rape being a huge one.
It's wildly overblown by college girls who get drunk/high and then fuck some dude they otherwise might not have.

>> No.5533406

>>5533382
I never thought Cam Pag would figure out 4chan.

>> No.5533414

>>5533347
Raging hard from all the attention you faggots keep giving them.

>> No.5533417

>>5533367
Nah- I think access to abortion and birth control are overplayed. You can get those in every state without too much hassle, despite what Huffington Post and Jezebel would lead you to believe.

Rape's the big fucking deal. For everyone. Please don't imply women who try to address these are "co-opting the face of feminism" just because they're middle class and white. Dealing with rape affects these people as well as your precious proles of color.

>> No.5533422

itt people who hate alt lit who also happen to be misogynists

That's what was funny about the handful of Tao Lin threads in the past few days, that you'd have these guys who were like, "I hate Tao Lin, but now I don't know, because we dudes have to stick together against those oh-so-common false rape accusations."

Then someone would post a jpg of a news story covering a false rape accusation as if that made false rape accusations more prevalent than actual rapes.

>> No.5533426

>>5533417
jesus, with allies like these...

>> No.5533432

>>5533417
nonono! I meant that it may seem like 'feminists' only care about video games or whatever bc of some blogs but that's not true for most feminists.
Rape affects every one, is what I meant.

>> No.5533442

>>5533422
I've also learned that calling someone creepy is apparently worse than sexually assaulting someone.

>> No.5533446

>>5533417
Access to birth control is definitely a real concern for women who live in states such as Texas and Tennessee, which try to restrict funding to the point where clinics can end up hundreds of miles away. And another issue with funding: whether abortions are affordable or free.

Does anyone here actually read Huffington Post or Jezebel beyond the occasional hateread?

>> No.5533447

>"Don't rape!"
>"okay"
>"That's not enough stop oppressing me!"

>> No.5533448 [DELETED] 

>>5533417
I meant white middle class 20 y.o.s in NYC are less affected than poor women in states where abortion centers are being shut down or when there's no affordable options for child care and stuff.

>> No.5533452

>>5531710
sure, when Zoe Quinn does it every website related to Gawker must stop any discussions about it

when a man does the same thing we must have a discussion about it

MUH OPPRESHUN

>> No.5533455
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5533455

>>5533275
He was like 13 in that pic so of course he looked like a child. This is his more recent look

>> No.5533458

>>5533442
Haha, dudes can't stand being called creepy. I do know of the "creep"-drift phenomenon, though. There was a female poster I know on another site, and when she started posting, she had been lurking for awhile. She was interested in the dynamics and structure of the board, e.g., she would notice curiosities about board stats or she would try to find out what made the board tick without being too personal or flame-y about it. Anyway, people started calling her "creepy," when really she was just analytic and curious.

But 4chan anons, yeah. They can be real creeps, and then they get indignant as if we can tell all the anons apart and know who said which particular misogynistic atrocity.

If it were me, and I were in any way skeptical of aspects of feminism or rape accusations, I would keep it to myself for fear of being associated with the worst posters.

My opinions aren't so important that I need to share them no matter what the context.

>> No.5533463

>>5533417
I meant white middle class 20 y.o.s in NYC are less affected by a lot of the laws being proposed or passed than the women who live in states where abortion centers are being shut down or when there's no affordable options for child care and a million other stuff.

>> No.5533473

>>5533422
The reason I said he's more interesting now is that I thought Richard Yates was just senseless babble, but now it turns out it actually has some content. The author is dead, and getting meaning from books, or not reading them because of the actions of the author is ridiculous, wether it be Ezra Pound or Tao Lin.

>> No.5533480

Can you imagine if all men magically disappeared from the alt-lit scene? Yes, even that Roggenbuck kid.

It wouldn't be the "scene" it is now, it would literally be a bunch of women near-indistinguishable from regular teenage girls on twitter. Not a single work would be commited to paper.

I just think it's funny how every girl in alt-lit is essentially a groupie. It's also funny how not one of them is exclusively heterosexual which I can only assume is for maximum social gains for the inevitable "crowdfund my rent" campaign.

>> No.5533486

>>5533480
i would be overjoyed if even just roggenbuck poofed away

>> No.5533492

>>5533463
True, but white middle class 20 year-olds still experience sexism and misogyny and their experiences aren't any less real because other women have it worse. They occasionally have to be reminded to grow up, like the white woman who cries hysterically all day when the black guy in the office calls her out on her racism, but I don't see any need in focusing on white girl privilege as if "social justice" is a zero sum game.

half-captcha: cising

>> No.5533494

>>5533463
Abortion is easy to get in any state unless it's in the third trimester. Birth control is given away for free by orgs like planned parenthood in every part of the us. Seriously that's just stuff people bring up to keep you voting. Rape and some peripheral culture issues are the problems. Of course they don't have an easy solution like "Vote democrat until taxes pay for Yaz in Ogden!!!!"

>> No.5533495

>>5533480
a major reason why there weren't as many women who were in the allt lit scene, or who stayed there, is BECAUSE they were expected to be groupies

>> No.5533504

>>5533492
>True, but white middle class 20 year-olds still experience sexism and misogyny
Boo hoo. Western sexism is being complimented for how you're looking today. "Real" sexism is being stoned to death for being an adulteress or packed away to be a drug-filled sex slave in Asiatic human trafficking rings.

>> No.5533506

>>5533492
100% agree, I was just trying to say that there are a ton of issues feminists care about besides the Jezebel! video games! straw man.

>> No.5533516

>>5533473
I read Richard Yates. At the time I thought it was an excruciating, particularly-observed self-indictment in a very controlled, opaque minimalist style, and it seems that's at least partly true.

I don't mind reading a book or story or poem without paying special attention to author intent, and I think a book can even undermine the author's intent (I think Jurgen does this), but I'm also not going to read books as if the author doesn't exist, as if his/her experiences don't inform the work.

I wasn't subtweeting you with my comment, btw. I don't think I was participating at that moment of the conversation.

>> No.5533522

>>5533506
ok

>> No.5533528

>>5533494
http://rt.com/usa/193092-texas-abortion-clinics-close/

That's not true.

>> No.5533532

>>5533504
I don't think you'd be able to convince anybody that you care about "real" sexism.

>> No.5533548

>>5533532
I don't. I just want to show how vapid and self-absorbed western SJWs are. They're the same ones who want equality for women but will defend Islam to the death because they've been programmed to support everything non-white and non-Christian lest they be accused of any -ism.

>> No.5533555

>>5533532
I don't think you'd be able to convince anybody that you are about anyone besides yourself.

>> No.5533562

I dont really get it. We live in this society thats totally vapid and edgy for the sake of being edgy, cartoon violence and hedonism. Then we turn around and get victorian and prissy about the fact that maybe actual forms of violence come hand in hand with those ways of thinking. It's like the suburbanite kid who jokingly emulates their favorite drug dealer rapper, but just the image of that person, not the reality of who they are.
I find myself agreeing a little bit with Camille Paglia, even though she's a nutjob. We can't deal with real life. If we really cared about rape, then we'd promote different values to begin with. We would understand that sexual violence is something that goes along with this victorian shit of men having to bend over backwards to get sex. I of all people do not ever engage in "slut shaming". I think that slutty people can be unintentionally funny sometimes, but the truth is that it ought to be considered normal for people to not have hang ups. This is the reason why somewhat misogynistic people like "pick up artists" have a foothold in society: it's because this is all a "game". But if we really believed in equality, maybe things would be different, they would just be more straightforward and honest, and misogyny would diminish from society

>> No.5533578

>>5533555
In English?

>> No.5533615

>>5533562
Yeah, it's obviously the fault of the women for not putting out more. It's good when people like you stretch out a little and write a couple of paragraphs on a subject so others can be completely demystified about who they're communicating with.

A lot of feminists would agree with you that people, including women, should have less hang ups, and that to combat rape, we should promote different values, but the way you frame those messages is almost hateful and so removed from reality that there's little use in trying to convince you. You should just do that 4chan thing of posting glib insults and keep the rest of your thoughts to yourself.

>> No.5533623

>>5533203
It's because all feminism can do to improve women's standing is propaganda of the deed, but most feminists aren't competent enough to do anything positive. Instead of being intelligent and hard-working as a means to show others that women are as capable as men, they sit at home and blog without making any attempts, blaming 'muh patriarchy' and 'muh rape culture' as the reasons for why they're a bunch of lazy idiots.

>> No.5533624

>>5532962
One of them ran a printing house out of Brooklyn, got some Canadian girl down to his place, and fucked her a bunch of times over the course of a week even though she didn't want to. She claimed she just wanted to sleep, but I don't know why she didn't just sleep on the floor if she really wanted to be clear about not fucking the guy.

>> No.5533625

>>5533615
is what I'm saying really so removed from reality? your idea of reality has been molded by the culture you live in, just as much as me if not more. In other cultures women would scratch their heads at the idea of "street harrassment". They only reason I give the idea any credence is because of the culture I've been raised in.

>> No.5533626

>>5533562
>I find myself agreeing a little bit with Camille Paglia
stopped reading there

>> No.5533627

>>5533495
Yup. Alt lit was/is very sexualizing towards young women, and there's a lot of harassment and come-one that happen privately. As a woman, you get to play along as long as you put up with the harassment, as long as you know you're playing in a boys' club.

>> No.5533632
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5533632

Why aren't you living the alt-lit life?

>> No.5533635

>>5533562

This. All these little college towns full of kids who went straight from college to high school trying to fill the shoes of the cool kids but as soon as anything measurably bad happens it's straight to the authorities they go, as soon as something more than superficially criminal is commited that person is ostracized.

It's not a problem if you hurt other people's feelings, it's only a problem if you diminish their facade. That's the mentality.

>> No.5533636

>>5533623
Why do you assume feminists aren't successful? We've got guys on this thread saying they're middle class NYers and then you're making some weird meritocratic argument.

>> No.5533649

>>5533636
What do you mean? They've been incredibly successful in the past 50 years and all but a few minor issues have been resolved (at least in the West), but they are issues that can't be legislated against, so the only thing they can do is act in a manner that would erase sexist stereotypes. Of course, edgy teens like the woman in the photo I responded to do nothing and blame the patriarchy when their lack of effort causes even more sexism and inequality.

>> No.5533651

>>5533632
I can't believe that all this time I thought Tao was a little beta autist. The man has game.

>> No.5533654

>>5533635
as soon as a crime is committed against them those cunts go right to the police! and then people don't want to hang out with the known rapist! what crazy sensitive bitches!
>insert statistics on rapes that occur and rapes that are reported and rapes that are prosecuted
>insert a million instances of people who are ostracized and doubted after they get attacked while everything keeps going great for the rapist
>cites this and the other threads

>> No.5533656

>>5533615
what i'm saying is that "rape culture" and implicit ideas about female sexuality are syntonic to each other. And every time feminists freak out about the fact that rape exists they overlook it and just repeat what you're saying, that women are being blamed for something. Look, isn't it normal for someone to want to get laid without really relating that much to the person they're attracted to? And yet, in our culture we chastise men for this as though it's horrifying. Look, i'd rather men acted like one-note cavemen than pick up artists with slicked back hair who try to figure the magic secret of spouting certain bullshit to get someone in the sack. Isn't this something any sane person would agree with?

>> No.5533659

>>5533632
His writing is still awful but I'm starting to respect him more as a person.

>> No.5533663

>>5533632
Tao's pimp hand is strong.

>> No.5533664

>>5533625
Part of being sex positive is still being positive about people's decisions not to have sex or not to sexualized themselves. Not every person who doesn't want to have sex has a hang up. And let's not forget that some just don't want to have sex with the people offering!

We can't transform our society overnight into a poly sex-posi utopia and we have to deal with the problems at hand. Feminist women who are also activists try to deal with the issues that they think concern themselves or other women the most, and theoretical concerns are only going to have so much sway with them. We have to operate in a pragmatic political framework.

>> No.5533673

>>5533635
What?

>> No.5533675

>>5533636
I'm a gurl who said the middle class nyers thing- I meant specifically Jezebel writers and commenters who people itt seem to think equal all feminists.

>> No.5533677

>>5533627

What was stopping them from participating via actual works? (apart from their works completely lacking the detachment and i am and observer to my own life-ness and opting instead to celebrate being the pixie venus of 4th & Green over and over and over and over and over)

It was a boys' club because boys made everything remotely worth a shit and girls were groupies. Are you saying they were peer pressured into it?

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>>5533651
>implying he isn't a little autist

>> No.5533689

>>5533562
I'd say part of the problem is men are expected to be the 'aggressors', so to speak, in romantic and sexual relationships. Have you ever had a woman ask you out, ever? This is equally the fault of men and women, however.

>> No.5533693

>>5533649
There might be an optimally effective way of dealing with it (I'm doubtful we could know what it is), but that's not an excuse to blame women, especially teenagers and very young women, for sexism and misogyny.

>> No.5533695

>>5533680
Is that supposed to be representative of autism? Those tweets just validate this new reputation of alpha dominance.

>> No.5533697

>>5533632
>>5533680
>when I was 16 I got harassed by a maniachal autist so much that I have nothing to do with my life but tweet about it

>> No.5533707

>>5533680
>Tao Lin made me feel worthless and suicidal.
kek.

>> No.5533708

>>5533651
Oh, it's these posters again.

>> No.5533709

>>5533654

ima bad bitch... i do all the ket and the mesc and dont give a shit... me and my girls run these streets... i am the pussycup of yr dreams baby boy, dont act like u dont crave these curves

>gets raped

I am a victim of a corrupt system. I am scarred for life but with all this great support I can heal.

>> No.5533710

>>5533203
Domino's Pizza is a Catholic front organisation? Gross.

>> No.5533719

>>5533677
I would say work by Luna Miguel is better than p much everything the boys made. Also a lot of the guys are 5-10 years older than most of the girls so of course they've produced more work. And women have been doing their own thing, a lot just haven't done it under the moniker alt lit and don't want anything to do with that dead shit clique.
And yeah, from what everyone has been saying it seems like there was ton of pressure to be or play groupie to the more established dudes.

>> No.5533727

>>5533689
>Have you ever had a woman ask you out, ever?

Yeah, I have.
But that isn't common for some guys, and so it's like they have to make even more of an effort than me. which kind of comes to back to what im saying, feminists still wanting to shame men for showing human self-interest and not wanting to be celibate. it's just a neverending cycle

>> No.5533732

>>5533693
I disagree. By doing little but complaining on the internet, these women are doing nothing but swaying men to think women are lazy and entitled. The only solution is to be productive and intelligent citizens, proving stereotypes wrong, ect.

>> No.5533740

when i was 16 tao lin kicked a basketball at my dog and fell down laughing

when i was 16 tao lin gave me an earlobe massage to "dispel negative karma"

when i was 16 tao lin showed up to my sisters wedding dressed as a nazi

>> No.5533751

Tao Lin did nothing wrong.

>> No.5533760

>>5533751

I'd get this trending if I had a twitter.

>> No.5533766

>>5533656
Lots of feminists want to get laid without knowing the person particularly well or at all, but that doesn't make either option more natural. Please don't go all evolutionary psychologist on me, anon.

Saying that it's the behavior, attitude, sexuality, and culture of women that permits or causes or is in harmony with rape culture and misogyny is just, I dunno, crazy. At least in a colloquial sense. It's as if you're saying misogyny and sexism and rape are all bad things, but the women really deserve it. I don't like the culture, sexuality, behavior, and attitude of a lot of men, but that doesn't mean they deserve to get raped or to make less money or to get cat-called by large construction workers.

You way, the women-need-to-change way, also isn't practical. The women seem to have it right. Their activist methods seem to have worked to some degree. They got the vote and narrowed the income gap; they can wear jeans and short hair; and they have more access to birth control and abortions.

>> No.5533773

>>5533732
The only men that would base their interpretation of every women on what a fringe group does on line are the ones who don't interact with women most of the time.

>> No.5533777

>>5533677
The other anon said it well.

>> No.5533785

>>5533680
Man, eliminating autism slurs from 4chan will be the final frontier for "sjw."

>> No.5533792

Five years after being with the guy she decided one particular undisclosed instance of sex was rape.

Why are people taking this seriously? It's pretty obvious that she's upset her alt-shit tweets never made so much as a ripple.

>"But I'm doing everything right! Lowercase, complete absence of punctuation, everything!"

Top fucking kek. I hope this leads to suicide just to see the absolute shitstorm.

>> No.5533793

>>5533689
Yeah, women have asked me out, but this is a feminist issue, not the other way around. If dudes wanna imagine a future of being asked out by women, they should become feminists.

>> No.5533795

>>5533680
>>5533632
I would have sworn these were from the "goofballs" and "open mic night" copypastas

>> No.5533801

Are people on tumblr still calling Tao Lin a rapist and ensuring that E.R. Kennedy's life gets ruined in a defamation lawsuit?

>> No.5533806

>>5533732
What stereotypes? Women do more than bitch on the Internet. Most people just bitch on the Internet, but some subset of those get involved in politics or some other form of activism. Bitching on the Internet doesn't invalidate a large, complex movement like feminism.

>> No.5533818

>>5533773
Well, this fringe group influences the actions of other people, so it's not just them, it's how their thoughts dissipate as well.
>tfw a girl I know labeled her asinine complains about men finding young girls attractive 'feminism' so she would sound smart
>tfw I challenged her on it on the basis that she watched porn as early as 14 and would therefore be open to sexual advances but said nothing but 'It's creepy!'
>tfw this irks me so much but everyone thinks I'm a pedophile now because I think the age of consent should be lowered to at least 16

>> No.5533828

>>5533792

>five years

eight years, four years since Tao Lin published all the information on it that she's just now given, about four days since his life came close to getting ruined, and it's within the future to see whether or not E.R. Kennedy's already fairly ruined life will not be fully destroyed because of this irresponsibility stoked by tumblr opportunism and yellow press.

>> No.5533839

>>5531710
Does anybody have any tumblr, twitter, etc. accounts where we can watch some of this shit fly? I know you in the community have links. The angrier and more outrageous the better, please. Thanks in advance.

>> No.5533843

>>5533818

>but everyone thinks I'm a pedophile now because I think the age of consent should be lowered to at least 16

so do you Americans still wear those puritan outfits with the funny hat? or only for sunday church now?

>> No.5533869

when i was 16 tao lin stole a bag of frozen chicken breasts and threw them at people out his car window