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A trolley is heading down a track and is about to kill one person tied to the track. You are told if you pull the lever you save that one person and divert the trolley onto another track.

You do so.

Afterwards, you are told that tied to the new track the trolley is headed on lies five people.

You are given the option to pull it back to kill the one man and save the five or not to pull it.

Do you pull the lever back or leave it be?

>> No.5528494
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>> No.5528515

[x] Genuflect

>> No.5528519

/r/ing the hedonist version of this problem.

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>>5528519

>> No.5528604

>kill one person
OK, save.

>At the cost of five people.
Well then, it's clearly -

>Not one person, one man. Kill the one man or save the five people?

Why didn't you tell me his gender in the first place?

Kill the man.

>> No.5528620

Have you lot never watched the fucking movie The Dark Knight? You're supposed to let Batman save the day because something about him not being a hero, he can do it.

>> No.5528631

>>5528620
Or there was that one awful episode of Doctor Who where they tried to solve the dilemma with love, but that one was bad - the point is, you're just supposed to grin and bear it.

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>>5528519
Thew answer is to not touch the lever.

>> No.5529312

I like the version in which you either let the train kill 5 people or push a fat man into the trails to stop the train.

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>>5529126

>implying I would ever kill the pure white vanilla

>> No.5529575

Depends on how ass-holish each set of people are.

>> No.5529604

>>5529575
>being this guy

sigh

>> No.5529636

>>5528486
kill the 5 then go rape the other guy

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>> No.5529649

>>5528494
god the co-ordinate system...

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Superior problem coming through

>> No.5529674

Jump in front of the trolley, that should make the driver stop

>> No.5529720

>>5528486

Simple you just jam the switch in the middle, the trolley just goes straight and gets stuck on the rail crossing

>> No.5529882

>>5529720
And everyone inside the trolley dies

>> No.5529889

>>5529882
No one is in the trolley.

Fuck, why do people always have to ask silly question in hypothetical scenarios or make up their own shit.

You have been given a choice and you must by provide an answer and justification.

>> No.5529895

>>5529889
Why would there be a running trolley without any people in it?

>> No.5529924

>>5528604
Perfect.

But yeah, the only acceptable answer to the trolley problem is to save the most number of people. Anything else is more about the feelings of the lever-puller than ethics.

A variation that holds the potential for more interesting answers would be something like, it's 1919 and Hitler is one of the five, or 1913 and Gavrilo Princip is one of the five.

>> No.5529953

>>5528486
By even asking this problem you've caused the death of at least one hypothetical man. You monster.

>> No.5529965

>>5528486

IF YOU DONT DIRECT THE TROLLEY TO KILL JUST ONE MAN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU ALIVE

IF YOU DONT DIRECT THE TROLLEY TO KILL JUST ONE MAN YOU SHOULD JUST KILL YOURSELF YOU ARE A WASTE OF SPACE AND RESOURCES

FUCK

GTFO OF LIT

SICK OF SEEING THIS SHIT HERE

>> No.5529996

I'd switch it for the one guy. After switching it, since he's so close by, I'd run and try to drag him backwards. Even if I can't, he'll live albeit with no legs probably.

>> No.5530007

>>5529965
But if you kill five you compensate with the resources they would had consumed.

>> No.5530054

>>5530007
Most humans aren't worthless leeches unless you live in a ghetto (or if you do live in a ghetto but your name is Oliver Twist)

>> No.5531264

What race is everyone? I don't want people to think I'm a racist.

>> No.5531267

This scenario is for kinder gardeners, fuck off.

>> No.5531277

>>5529895
I'm looking through the window right now; there isn't even a driver.

>> No.5531283

>>5531267
>kinder gardeners

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