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Can i prove that i exist?
I am doubting my own existence, in the past i used to believe that i exist based on descartes phrase "I think therefore i am".

But recenly i've started doubting even this, and it is driving me depressive and insane!

I start thinking about stuff like "i see the trees on the window, therefore i have a thought in my head and i exist... but i cant simultaneously produce a thought and think about it, so when i have a thought about the thought i may no longer exist", like when i think "i think therefore i exist". When i think about this thought i may no longer exist.

Can somebody help me? This is driving me crazy!

>> No.5461387

>>5461374
> doubting your own existence
> 2014

c'mon man, is this babby's first time getting high?

>> No.5461390

Cogito ergo sum.

>> No.5461396

Having a thought about a thought is still thinking, OP.

>> No.5461397

You can't. Deal with it.

>> No.5461404

>>5461390
Nice illiteracy, dipshit.

>> No.5461417

>>5461374
Blackwell Philosophy Anthologies - Epistemology: An Anthology -- Part I, Chapter 1, The Problem of the External World

>> No.5461440

>>5461404
I wrote the reply before reading the OP, yeah.

>> No.5462606

>>5461374
1) jerk off
2) look up Husserl's term Retention

>> No.5462633

>>5461374
Get laid, then you will know that you exist. Not thought makes you exist but life.

>> No.5462746

>>5462633
>give her the D

Why is Descartes so based?

>> No.5464578

>>5461374
Lol, I was like this when I first discovered philosophy. I was 16. I don't know how, but I just shifted my thoughts. I guess life hit me, gave me a wake-up call, saying, "hey, dipshit, life is real and it fucking sucks, deal with it."

>> No.5464581

>>5461374
This thread is underage bait. Read more, you illiterate faggot.

>> No.5464582

>>5462633
This.
No, seriously.
Do it. Fall in love or fuck something.

>> No.5464608

you can't prove your existence since cogito ergo sum is flawed: logic is extracted from observations of this world, which means that if this world is a lie our logic is flawed, that same logic has been used to find cogito ergo sum therefore cogito ergo sum is probably also flawed. the question now is: does the fact that you exist or not change anything? it's not like you could go into existence anyway if you don't exist, just act like a stoicist and act like it wasn't your problem since it's not something you have any power on, even if objectively you don't exist, your life is subjective, which means that existing or being a fake doesn't have any actual effect on your life.

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5464611

>>5464608
>logic is extracted from observations of this world, which means that if this world is a lie our logic is flawed

>> No.5464623

Yes. Kill yourself: it's that easy.

>> No.5464628

>>5464611
not sure if that reaction face is disgust for a pleb or sadness

>> No.5464659

OP, are you for real?
(lol, getit?)

>> No.5464661

>>5464659
Damn, I'm never going to top that again...

>> No.5464671

"My thinking that I might not exist is driving me insane, therefore I am".

Did I top it???

>> No.5464679

Someone laugh at my jokes, I'm afraid I might not exist ;__;

>> No.5464683

>>5464679
>I might
Who?

>> No.5464692

>>5464683
Damn.

>> No.5464723

Are you retarded?

Live, sense, share, then think thereabout. Your existence is first of all felt. You sense before you think.
If you want to get the pessimistic one, you're mostly a reacting being. You bounce on this and that, all the time. You try to steer your way ahead, but it's never happening the way you'd wish it to.
The bright side is that because you're bouncing, you at least know you're bouncing on SOMETHING;--therefore you exist.
What the fuck is existing to you, if it's not being and evolving among other things?

And I believe you don't really understand one very important aspect of the Cogito ergo sum. A funny one, by the way, because it kills solipsism: once you're aware that you think, you're sure you're not alone. It's a certainty. Nothing that is human is created ex-nihilo, nor comes out of noting. Nothing.

You're welcome. Now, jerk off.