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Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:49:11 2014 No.5435033 [Reply] [Original]

Would you pull it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:54:09 2014 No.5435048 There is no question. It's obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:54:27 2014 No.5435049 >>5435033 >not derailing it with your own body

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:55:33 2014 No.5435054 File: 9 KB, 230x202, 1410353655187.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5435033 >mfw look at name of the image

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:55:42 2014 No.5435055 i would untie the one person and put him on the track with the 5 people because why the fuck not?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:56:37 2014 No.5435060 >>5435033 only correct answer is to pull it. debate me faggots

Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:58:29 2014 No.5435068

>>5435033
dont pull it.
the rail company is counting on that train to be on the track it is already set on
best case scenario: the train ends up at the wrong station and they have to get it back on track (where it will be a few hours late)
worst case scenario: there's a train heading down those tracks which will result in a collision that would kill a hell of a lot more than 5 people.

good job lever pullers, you just caused a chemical spill that killed 1000 people.
happy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:59:27 2014 No.5435071 >>5435033 The real fact is that the train isn't moving, it's an illusion of the mind

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 22:59:31 2014 No.5435073 >>5435060 see>>5435068

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:00:45 2014 No.5435077 >>5435068 Those are some major assumptions m8

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:13:31 2014 No.5435112 easy. the physical world we live in is not real. there is no train, no lever, no people about to die, and no you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:16:48 2014 No.5435118 >>5435112 You can know nuthin

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:21:18 2014 No.5435134 >>5435071 First-rate paradox there, Zeno

Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:33:24 2014 No.5435186

>>5435071
How could it even move at all? To reach the people it should pass thorugh the middle of the line, and to reach that it should pass the middle of the middle, and so on and so on. Every movement is an illusion, things already happened or won't ever happen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:35:05 2014 No.5435196 >>5435186 >>5435134

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:45:19 2014 No.5435238 >>5435077 where's the assumption? we know the train would be going on the wrong track if you pulled the lever. we know trains go both ways down those tracks we know by pulling that lever, you are saving 5 lives, killing one, and risking thousands.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:47:46 2014 No.5435245 >>5435060 non-intervention would lead to the same outcome as if you weren't there pulling the lever is a choice that leads to an outcome you forced, which is the killing of a person. That is murder.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:49:24 2014 No.5435251 >>5435186 I think Leibniz and his calculus would beg to differ

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:50:28 2014 No.5435258 >>5435251 >but muh paradox

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:51:46 2014 No.5435267 >>5435245 and non-intervention would be considered what, 3 counts of manslaughter?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:52:54 2014 No.5435270 >>5435186 the answer to this lies in the whole 0.99[...]9=1 thing. there is no infinitesimal digit, so as you continue to approach, the distance effectively becomes 0

Anonymous Sun Sep 14 23:53:47 2014 No.5435280

>>5435033
The way I see it, you are much better of just standing in front of the train. Whats the point? What ever you pick, in the end you will be dead as those that got run over, why prolong the suffering of life? Why care who lives or who dies when you thwy all die in the end? Nothing will matter once you are dead. What is in it for me who lives or who dies? The real question here is whether to stand in front of the train and face the inevitable or to walk away and let fate decide the end of your destination.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 00:07:39 2014 No.5435357 >>5435280 you're 16 years old im assuming. the reason we live is because the good times we have (or hope to have later on) make the bad times worth it. if you think it's not, then it is you who should kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 00:09:47 2014 No.5435368 >>5435357 >implying he's not our centuries Nietzsche

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 00:10:03 2014 No.5435369 >>5435357 >git schopenhauer

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 00:31:37 2014 No.5435447 >>5435280 You will grow out of your teenangster phase one day anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 05:48:31 2014 No.5436347 >>5435033 >Would you pull it? Given that murderous materialisations of contrived analytical philosophical thought experiments give me erections, of course I'd pull it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 15 06:17:24 2014 No.5436466

>>5435033
That image is pretty dodgy. Unless that cart was moving at a crawl, you wouldn't be able to flip that level without just derailing it and causing who knows what kind of destruction. If it is moving at a crawl, flip the lever and drag the one guy on the alternate route off of the tracks. Actually, what the hell is holding down any of those people anyway? They could easily push themselves away with their feet.

Nitpicking aside, let the five die, then kill the remaining witness and set the corpse next to the rest once the car passes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 11:53:42 2014 No.5437383 >>5435280 >be antinatalist/nihilist/pessimist >not picking hedonism instead of immediate suicide Shiggity iggity

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 12:55:47 2014 No.5437546 >>5435238 >we know trains go both ways down those tracks Pretty big assumption right there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 13:01:21 2014 No.5437563 File: 186 KB, 500x302, 1391309843614.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5435280 >He doesn't know that we're all literally one and there is no such thing as death

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 13:02:53 2014 No.5437566 >>5437563 >Totally delusional faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 13:05:34 2014 No.5437569 >>5437566 >spooks

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 13:05:35 2014 No.5437570 File: 999 KB, 250x251, 1368822009036.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5437566 >Delusioner than you, dickbait

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 13:33:33 2014 No.5437661 File: 13 KB, 480x360, ulrich_horstmann.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5435055 Mein Untier Kill everyone, it is the only answer to mankind. So saith the edgiest German, and so it shall be done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 16:10:16 2014 No.5438271 File: 50 KB, 506x267, bait2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what about now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 17:27:04 2014 No.5438607 >>5437546 all rail companies do that. i dont see an assumption there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 17:42:50 2014 No.5438682 >>5437661 is any of this guy's work translated?

Anonymous Mon Sep 15 17:51:39 2014 No.5438732
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Think of it like Schrödinger's Cat; at the moment when the choice is being made, all 6 are dead since all are in immediate, mortal danger by the train. By pulling the lever, you resurrect the 5, which is the best possible outcome. This logic extends to literally every one of these paradoxes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 17:54:38 2014 No.5438754 >>5435033 I don't see why anyone would pull it given that the lever is clearly already set in the position angled towards you. What good is pulling on it any more going to do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 17:56:39 2014 No.5438764 >>5435033 I'd go Kantian and do the right thing. Killing everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 20:55:10 2014 No.5439678 Pulling the lever is a fuck you to the statist society that have trains controlled electronically. So yes, i would

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 21:03:57 2014 No.5439726 >>5438764 Kantian would let that one dude survive, innit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 21:38:10 2014 No.5439879 File: 60 KB, 499x499, ayyy lmao.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >there are people on here that would pull the lever

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:41:34 2014 No.5440768 >>5435033 Would your decisions be affected if we add skin colour? 1 white nd 5 blacks 1 black nd 5 whites

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:42:53 2014 No.5440773 A HUAH HUAH HUAH LE TROLLEY MAIM

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:03:41 2014 No.5440865 File: 62 KB, 506x561, schrodingers coin toss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the accurate answer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:06:48 2014 No.5440870 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAMDg7IVWs the only reasonable answer

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:18:02 2014 No.5440902
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>>5435033
What's up with these threads?
It's basic knowledge there is no true right or wrong. Literally any option or choice here, even just jumping into the train or walking away are also right actions.
Is Nihilism really that hard to accept? jesus christ.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:11:45 2014 No.5441338 Pull it. Take out knife, cut the one guy loose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:15:09 2014 No.5441345 File: 233 KB, 1798x848, fags and an absurdist.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What it do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:17:52 2014 No.5441348 File: 786 KB, 369x2743, IMG_4417.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5441338 Reminds me of this.

>>	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Tue Sep 16 04:23:55 2014 No.5441360 >Satre Easy enough choice then I'll ... um ... wait. Who is ... >or Michel de Montaigne Holy fuck you vile fucking sadist.

>>	Oh. Right. Tue Sep 16 04:26:49 2014 No.5441365 >>5441345 >>5441360 >vile fucking sadist >happy merchant

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:27:58 2014 No.5441369 >>5441345 Kill the top

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:30:40 2014 No.5441377 >>5441369 >saving a feminist >>>/tumblr/

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:35:02 2014 No.5441386 >>5441377 >killing kirk

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:35:29 2014 No.5441387 >>5441386 He's just a stupid christian.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 04:37:42 2014 No.5441395 >>5441387 >>>/tumblr/

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