/lit/ - Literature

[Oklin No.5417771]

Am I the only one who thinks there should be more insight into this?

[Anonymous No.5418881]

>muh Beatrice

[Anonymous No.5418912]

>tryhard novelist tries so hard it breaks the speed of tryhard

[Anonymous No.5418921]

Well, the general idea Handler was going for included mysteries without answers, loads of obscured connections, unresolved plot lines... The idea that a story can never truly having an ending. Although I think the thematic experiment was lost on the target audience.

What was the sugar bowl?

[Anonymous No.5418936]

>>5418921
>mysteries without answers, loads of obscured connections, unresolved plot lines
In other words, he was trying to copy Kafka.

Spoiler: Kafka did it better

[Anonymous No.5418945]

>>5417771
Read the serie when I was 8, really loved it, I read the twelth book and never read the end, I'm 21 and still don't know why. Should I pick it up? I have such a good memory of it, I'm afraid to be disappointed now that I'm older.

[Anonymous No.5418977]

>>5418936
Kafka? You chose Kafka over Pynchon in the mysteries without answers/obscured connections/unresolved plot lines categories?

[Anonymous No.5419128]

>>5418945

It has a different feel then the other books, kind of a fatalistic and actually depressing element to it. I thought it was interesting and vaguely satisfying of an ending, but that's a hotly contested question.

[Anonymous No.5419303]

>>5418936

You mean he made a 13 book series out of The Crying of Lot 49?

[Anonymous No.5419358]

Insight in what way?

Overall, I thought The End was satisfying: similar to >>5418945, I had access to it early on but didn't get to it until much later. It ramps up the symbolic nature of the series to a high degree, while still giving us a look at the central four characters (the children and Olaf).

Speaking of this series, this is yet another personal reminder to check out All The Wrong Questions.

[Anonymous No.5419424]

>"Oh yes we can!" Shirley said, in her silly high voice, and grabbed Violet's arm. Foreman Flacutono quickly grabbed her other arm, and the eldest Baudelaire found herself trapped.
>"Klaus!" Violet cried, struggling in the grips of Shirley and Foreman Flacutono. "Do something!"
>"Your brother can't do anything!" Shirley said, giggling in a most annoying way. "He's just been unhypnotized—he's too dazed to do anything. Foreman Flacutono, let's both pull! We can make Violet's armpits sore that way!"
>Shirley was right about Violet's sore armpits,

[Anonymous No.5419453]

>>5419424

In context that scene was hype as fuck, get out of here with that bad writing towelman maymay

[Anonymous No.5419477]

I had some sort of Don Quixote complex and used to be convinced that these books were true when I was little.

[Anonymous No.5419570]

>>5419453
>bad writing towelman maymay

what the fuck are you even talking about

towelman has nothing to do with bad writing you autist

[Anonymous No.5419602]

>>5419570

Just how new are you?

Go to any GoT thread and he's invariably posted to spam the diarrhea focused "GoT a shit" copypasta.

[Anonymous No.5419615]

>>5419602
>calls others new
>thinks the towelman meme has anything to do with Game of Shits or bad writing

cannot stop laughing

[Anonymous No.5419631]

>>5419615

>2014
>Implying towelman meme can be used unironically

War has changed, anon.

[Anonymous No.5419842]

>been on 4chan for several years
>just now realize it's a towel and not a ribbon

I always thought it was a guy who just ran a marathon and was dabbing at his sweat with a fucking award.

[Anonymous No.5419846]

>>5419453
>>5419570
>>5419602
>>5419615
>>5419631
great exchange here

top notch banter

[Anonymous No.5419860]

>>5419842
wait

what

you seriously thought "le_sweating_man.jpg" was using anything other than a towel?

[Anonymous No.5419865]

>>5419860

[Anonymous No.5419875]

>>5419865
>>5419842
invest in some corrective eyewear

[Anonymous No.5419889]

>>5419875

I wish the problem were shitty eyes rather than a shitty brain m8.

Welp, I'm off to contemplate suicide. Cya!

[Anonymous No.5419901]

>>5419846

eh, I r8 7/8.

[Anonymous No.5419957]

Good children series. I learned words like "xenophobic" and "penultimate" by reading these books.

[Anonymous No.5419996]

>>5419957
>>5419957
>mfw people think penultimate means 'very ultimate'
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.5420064]

reminder that you will never know the true meaning of the great unknown

[Anonymous No.5420237]

>>5420064

>implying that wasn't aSoUE's green light

[Anonymous No.5420305]

>>5420237

>Believing in symbolism

Why can't an author just put in a nice piece of imagery without everyone sperging out and claiming it represents money, fear, or the negative impacts of colonialism with respect to the Panama canal?

[Anonymous No.5420347]

How's that second series that focuses on Snicket's role in VFD? I read the first one back when it came out and while it wasn't terrible, I felt like he was trying to cash back in on the series for a quick buck.

Also,
>tfw this could make a god-tier movie series but it is forever ruined by that dogshit film with Jim fucking Carey and Olaf.
Fuck it all.

[Anonymous No.5420386]

>>5420347

Fuck no it couldn't be a good series for film.

Film audiences demand closure and a clean and simple plot structure which can carry a story for an hour and a half without narration or background exposition. Unfortunate Events offers none of the above.

It's also wholly unfit for production. Most of the humor you enjoy from the series is from a sardonic third party playing with words and the narrative; the actual action is rather simple and unfit for actual film production.

It's stupid to try, too. Historically, except maybe for "The Grapes of Wrath" there has never been a "sad and cynical story forced into the happy ending box where the movie came out watchable.

Prove me wrong, il/lit/erates.

[Anonymous No.5420409]

>>5420386
As a popular series, sure it'd be terrible. As evidenced by the attempt starring Jim Carey. I could (and probably most of lit) handle a story without closure, maybe even a popular audience could since the books were pretty fucking popular. I will concede the fact that a lot of the humor and plot is driven by a narrator who both took part in the backstory and adds to the present story through his sarcastic remarks.

I dunno, I guess I'm venting frustration over the blue-balls the actual film gave me since it was so shitty and I was hyped as fuck for it when it came out.

[Anonymous No.5420444]

>>5420409
>Watched film on payperview with parents because I was hyped as fuck and we couldn't make it in theaters.
>Somewhat disappointed but hopeful they could turn it around
>Dad's first comment after forcing him to watch the whole thing because of my hype:
>Okay film. It's never getting a sequel though."
>"Sorry little man."
>tfw

[Anonymous No.5420448]

>am i the only one

why do people start threads this way

i hate it

[Anonymous No.5420450]

TCoL49 for kiddies

tell me otherwise

[Anonymous No.5420453]

>>5420448

Sans that the title's

>There should be more insight into this

As originally posted, it encourages responses beyond "yeah."

[Anonymous No.5420519]

>>5419996
>mfw I had an argument with someone about this and they kept insisting they were right even after I explained the etymology to them and showed them a dictionary definition

[Anonymous No.5420524]

>>5420347
I thought the movie was alright even though it didn't follow the plot of the books that closely.

[Anonymous No.5420527]

>>5418945
The End was so sad :(

[Anonymous No.5420539]

>>5420524

>"I see what you're doing, sign it in your OTHER hand, please."

[Anonymous No.5420546]

>>5420539
That was a curveball for people who had read the books and thought they knew what was gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.5420586]

>>5420450
it's better than TCoL49

[Anonymous No.5420678]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X_9u5JFwYZ4

[Anonymous No.5420900]

>>5420450
yes, in an extremely complimentary way

[Anonymous No.5420917]

>>5420444
LMFAO LITERALLY MY SIDES
DAD WAS RIGHT LITTLE MAN