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Hey, /lit/, check out what I just got!

>> No.538984

Why on earth would you get a typewriter?
People use computers now for a reason.

>> No.538990
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538990

>no backspace

>> No.538993

>>538984
Writing on a typewriter makes it damn near impossible to edit as you go. One problem I have with writing is that I keep going back to try and fix things. You try that shit on a good, old-fashioned mechanical typewriter.

>> No.538999

shit
i think this will gonna be the next hipster-must-have

i bought myself a similar model at ebay for 1€
it is awesome to write on!

>> No.539007

>>538999
Fuck yeah... except for the hipster thing.

It's fun as fuck to write on this thing. The sound of the keys, the bell when you hit the end of the line, and actually having to push the carriage over to move down a line. Fuck yeah!

>> No.539021

>>539007
Where do you get the ink? My dad has a really old one that seemed to be untouched.

>> No.539022

i think i will grow some extra finger muscles because of the keys, this would be a good exercise for guitar player

and i got a backspace and some old style tip-ex thing on a card which i put between the paper and the key i hit the key and it deletes the wrong letter

>> No.539028

A typewriter is meant for final copies.
Writing is meant to be done by hand, with the final draft being typewritten. It's common sense. Great fun too.

>> No.539034

>>539021
eBay, and such.

>> No.539047
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>> No.539050

i wrote most of my college papers on a typewriter for an entire semester after my laptop died -- couldn't concentrate in the library. it was a fucking hassle, but was an interesting experience because it had a very noticeable effect on my writing style and technique as i adjusted to it. it even began to influence my thinking process somewhat (when doing academic writing, that is).

i also wrote some half-assed Bukowski wannabe poetry on it when i was drunk a few times, which was fun.

is that an electric one, though? mine was much older. it didn't even have an erase/delete/backspace function, i had to manually correct every mistake with whiteout strips or retype everything. i'm getting pissed off just thinking about it.

>> No.539053

>>539050
This thing is purely manual. No electricity needed. Doesn't even have automatic carriage return, either.

>> No.539092
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this is the typewriter i bought
i must admit that i bought it because i imagined myself sitting in the dark smoken some stoff drinking some stuff thinking about the world and then writing some stuff like henry miller

>> No.539105

>>539092
You write only in Hebrew?

>> No.539439

Bump

Any other typwriterfags on /lit/?

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>> No.539454

Good luck finding ribbons. D:

>> No.539456

Renaissance fairs are nostalgic because you get to enjoy the plunging necklines and charred meat without having to suffer the terrible hygiene and lack of plumbing.

Computers came after typewriters for very good reason. Fuck typewriters. If you want to be a nostalgia-fag, go find a program that locks down your computer and turns it into a basic word processor.

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>>539439
Canadian Typewriterfag reporting in. I have an Eaton Viking.

I'm going to try and buy a Selectric soon, though. Or one of those ones that don't have the keytypes that fly up, you know, one of the ones on that rotating cylinder.

>> No.539464

>>539456
Writing with a typewriter helps because it forces you to be aware of how long your lines are. Typing takes longer and is more cumbersome on a typewriter, no matter how great a typist you are. On a computer most people type as fast as they think. This leads to a lot of word-spew in their writing. With a typewriter, you learn to write only the essentials because it's a pain in the ass to write anything more.

>> No.539470

>>539464
also helps improve spelling and word usage.

>> No.539466

>>539454
Staples still sells them.

>> No.539467

>>539462
I'd love an IBM Selectric II; those type-balls are fucking awesome.

Still, I think I'll keep my little manual for a while.

>> No.539474

>>539467
Non-jamming typewriters, ftw! Type-balls look hardcore.

What kind of manual do you have?

>> No.539479

>>539466
If you're lucky. Most I've been to have gone all techy, 'cept for the audio cassette tapes.

>> No.539483

>>539474
I'm OP.

>> No.539499
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539499

PUNCH THE KEYS FOR GOD'S SAKE.

>> No.539501

>>539464
Okay, so what you're saying is this:

I don't know how to edit myself, so I instead rely on an obsolete mechanical device to make the process of writing more difficult.

My work process is this:

Write in a modern word processor where I can eliminate paper wastage and immediately make multiple backups of the document as I'm working on it. Be able to edit, insert, copy+paste, and delete with ease. Be able to find+replace through my entire manuscript with a keystroke.

I understand that hipsters like to rationalize their fetishization of obsolete tech. I do like the sound of an LP playing on a nice turntable, so hipsters didn't get it completely wrong. However, I'm not going to let you guys rationalize keeping the typewriter around.

>> No.539502

>>539479
In Canada I have no trouble finding them. Depends on what kind of ribbon you need I guess. I have an old Royal. Fairly easy to come by.

>> No.539513

>>539501
Are people who write with pencils hipsters too?

>> No.539515

>>539501
I got my typewriter for drafts. I've tried writing in a modern word processor, and it fucking distracts me, 'cause I can go back and edit shit and correct and stuff. I'd rather have a device that forces me to bang out a shitty, error-filled first draft that I can retype, then a fancy computerbox that won't let me finish 'cause I keep going back to tweak shit.

>> No.539517

>>539513
If you're using that pencil to write in your moleskine, yeah, yeah you are a dirty fucking hipster.

>> No.539520

>>539501
Contrarian Hipster Mccarthyist detected.

>> No.539533

>>539501
Books are for hipsters. E-readers have made them obsolete. With an e-reader, you can copy and paste, search with a keystroke, add multiple bookmarks with a button, and store thousands of books at a time. Your fetishization of old tech is disgusting to a cool e-reader user like me.

Computers are old tech. They are big and clunky. Their keys make noise when you type so they keep people awake. With an iPad the keyboard is on the screen so there's no noise. You can type, copy and paste, and even surf the internet when there isn't a WiFi connection available. It's small and you can bring it anymore. Your fetishization of old tech is disgusting to a cool iPad user like me.

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>>539517
What if I use my pencils to write on index cards held together with a binder clip?

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>>539515
Again, it's not the 'fancy computer-box' that's causing your problems. Stop externalizing your faults. Your problem is your ability to concentrate on the task at hand.

The number one complaint I hear is that the computer is connected to the internet, hence, facebook, youtube, flickr, etc. TypeWrite, I think, is a good program that blacks out your screen and gives you just a blinking cursor. No formatting, no font colors, no font sizes.

You can easily lock your computer down. By that, I mean that you can remove the functionality that makes a computer so much better as a word processor. The question then becomes, "Why?"

Why not, instead, work on your ability to concentrate? Don't rely on obsolete tech as a crutch. Discipline yourself.

>> No.539545

>>539533
Protip: I have an e-Reader. :)

The iPad has no physical keyboard. Makes it suitable primarily for consuming media and not creating it. I still prefer a good desktop computer.

>> No.539550

I for the most part hate computers. I grew up in the analog age. I grew up on typewriters. So I continue to use them.

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>> No.539558

>>539517
A moleskine costs 12 dollars and lasts for years. I keep blank and lined 3x5 notecards, post-it notes, and sticky bookmark tabs (for when I read) in the back pocket. The elastic band keeps pages from ripping out. The hanging bookmark makes sure I always open to the right page. The binding keeps the pages together over years of page turning, being thrown into backpacks and falling out of backpockets. The cheap crap from Staples doesn't do any of this.

>> No.539563

>>539022
all the muscles you use to play guitar are in your forearms.
this goes for bass as well.

>> No.539562

>>539537
Are you Nabokov?

>> No.539559

>>539543
Got a word processor that doesn't let me backspace? How about one that doesn't let me correct spelling on the fly? When I want to draft something, I just want to bang it the fuck out and not let ANYTHING get in my way. Hence, typewriter. Even the most minimalist word processor, text editor, whatever, has distraction features.

Yes, I know it's my own shortcoming, but I'm choosing to work around it. Besides, not like this typewriter cost me anything. Friend of mine found it at his parents old house.

>> No.539575

>>539562
No.

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>>539558
>Let's go to another bar. This one is full of fucking hipsters.

>> No.539588

http://they.misled.us/dark-room
Dark-Room is a no frills word processing program. Just a black background with green text. You can then save it to a txt file and then do all the edits you need to do in Word or in another program.

>> No.539595

>>539588
Are there any programs like this that disable backspace or moving around in the text?

>> No.539597

>>539575
Then you're a hipster.

>> No.539605

>>539595
No. I understand that you can't control that impulse. But the rest of the world finds the ability to jump around in the text a really key part of the computing experience.

How about you just cover the right side of your keyboard? No arrow keys.

>> No.539609

>>539595
You can buy an old membrane keyboard and rip out the backspace and arrow keys. I would download that and poke around and see if there is someone that has already modded the program to suit your needs.

>> No.539621

>>539595
http://www.lifehackingmovie(dot)com/2009/05/18/typewriter-minimal-text-editor-freeware/

This one only allows you to go one way: forward. No backspace, no arrow keys, no anything but type and go.

>> No.539626

I occasionally write with a pencil to jot down ideas and write rough draft stuff that disjointedly comes to my mind. I find it relatively convenient as you can add margin notes and in-text notes/edits much more easily than when you use a computer. I only use Word when I have a somewhat clear idea of what I'm writing.

As for typewriters..... I see no point whatsoever of that.

>> No.539635

It's amazing the gimmicks you wannabes fall for. The problem lies between your ears, not under your fingers. Would a little discipline kill you?

>> No.539634

>>539621
Downloading now. Thank you Anon for the link.

>> No.539655

>>539621
Got a Mac version?

>>539635
Fuck you. Discipline is about application. If one thing doesn't work, try another. How is using a typewriter undiscliplined?

>> No.539673

>>539655
It's a Java program so it runs anywhere.

>> No.539675

>>539655
Discipline is about applying mental fortitude to solve mental problems. Not about sidestepping them because it's more convenient and matches your record player.

>> No.539679

>>539655

>How is using a typewriter undiscliplined?


It's not. It's just pointless.

>> No.539681

>>539673
Java... runs everywhere... poorly.

>> No.539690

>>539681
It's a text-editing program that display a blank screen and a block cursor. It's hard to fuck that up, even in Java.

>> No.539691

I like using typewriters for first drafts. I have a tendency to mull over a single word for like 30 minutes. That's just unnecessary. Take away my ability to backspace and I just keep on truckin'.

>> No.539692

>>539673
> minimal text editor
> Java

Oh, lord. Just use ed or something.

>> No.539696

>>539692
Minimal as in 'features.' Not minimal as in 'not resource intensive.' It's 2010. RAM doesn't matter.

>> No.539711

>>539696
RAM doesn't matter, but performance does. Java is slow as balls on even a GOOD computer.

>> No.539730

>>539679
for you perhaps. Some people like to use bicycles to get where they want to be.

>> No.539735

>>539730
yeah, but those people either need exercise or don't have a driver's license.
there's no reason like that to be using a typewriter, unless you just like making everything 50 times more difficult for yourself.

>> No.539736

>>539730
Again and again, you typewriter fags try to hold up analogies to the typewriter as a defence. The problem is that these analogies don't work.

The pencil and the pen do not mutually exclude the other from existing.

Likewise, the bicycle and the car exist simultaneously for a good reason.

The typewriter is dead. The computer has replaced it.

>> No.539740

>>539736
You're an idiot. That's all there is, really.

>> No.539744

>>539736

Please see >>539691 for my personal reason for using a typewriter.

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>>539740
y u mad tho?

>> No.539748

>>539730
bicycles still have distinct advantages over cars. No fuel, cheap, easy to operate, provides excessive, and is just plan fun to do.

Type writers have no such comparison. Any "advantage" a type writer has is purely psychological in nature.......a...side from not requiring electricity.

SO yeah....there you have it. when Apocalypse comes you will still be able to write your shitty harry potter fanfic because you have a typewriter.

>> No.539758

>>539691
Yo dawg I heard that carving your words into stone would really help you with that backspacing problem.

>> No.539781

>>539748
>implying fiction writing isn't a highly psychological venture

>> No.539818

>>539781
Are we really such simpletons that the venting of our imagination can be limited by having the option to backspace?

Seriously. if you do not like the ability to edit on the fly then just get a pen and notebook. That is assuming you have the strength of character to prevent yourself from using whiteout.

>> No.539825

The use of those clunky outdated machines is just stroking your own non-conformist ego. You are fabricating their usefulness.

>> No.539827

I want a typewriter so I won't go online instead of writing.

>> No.539833

>>539827
How about you turn off the WiFi and unplug the ethernet cable, instead? HMMMMMMMM?

>> No.539838

>>539827
> I lack self discipline.

>> No.539846

>>539827
Hey guess what. If you cannot trust yourself to not use the interwebz, then by an old PC or laptop from the fucking 90's. Windows 95 has notepad, that should be minimalist enough.

>> No.539847

>>539818

My handwriting is atrocious, and I do math by hand all day sometimes so coming home to write more would probably make my arm cramp. I'll stick with my typewriter.

>> No.539864

>>539847
>>539827
>>539730
>>539691
>making up excuses to justify hipster fagotry.

>> No.539870

>>539847 My handwriting is atrocious

Practice makes perfect. Truly, nothing can compare with a page of handwritten text.

>> No.539991

>>539846
That's actually an interesting idea... maybe I should boot up my old 1995 computer. I think I've still got one of my old short stories on it somewhere.

I don't remember the computer password, though...