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5375733 No.5375733[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

was she being trolled or is it real?

>> No.5375782

Why not both

>> No.5375783

if you think this was the main theme you need to read it again

>> No.5375832

>>5375783
sick reference bro

>> No.5375853

>>5375782
/thread

>> No.5375862

>>5375853
Yes, why did you bump it?

>> No.5375866

>>5375733
Finished it last week. Thought it was awful.

>> No.5375874

>>5375733
the whole book is a convoulted mess on purpose,right down to the way pynchon forms his sentences and paragraphs. That play in chapter 3 makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and 90% of the allusions, parallels, analogy's, metaphors are there purely to throw you off. The book is about how futile it is to try and frame and compile objective narrative out of anything in life. The readers journey is analogous to Oed's: Constantly trying to make sense of all the threads and themes in the book, right down to the theme of entropy he hints at, you go looking up what entropy is and you find out that it's almost impossible to completely understand it because not even scientists completely understand it, because to understand it would to be to almost completely understand how the world works, something we cannot do. Did you ever at any point in the novel, start reading a paragraph and by the end, completely forget what the beginning was about?

>> No.5375881

>>5375733
Pynchon is literally laughing at critics who try to draw any conclusions from it. He denounced the book himself, saying he wrote it as a cash grab, he was probably high when he wrote it. The guy has academic credentials and a massive aura around him, he's marketed himself by purposefully not marketing himself. A lot of his big novels have large chunks that are impossible to make odds and ends of. The guy defies any interpretation apart from what you project on the rambling mess

>> No.5375884

>>5375862

Why did you?

>> No.5375898

>>5375874
this is very good, the book felt exactly like that.

entropy is pretty well understood though

>> No.5375917

>>5375874
>Did you ever at any point in the novel, start reading a paragraph and by the end, completely forget what the beginning was about?

Yeah but you know what's weird is I didn't have this problem so much with Gravity's Rainbow.

>> No.5375981

>>5375733
It is us who are trolled.

>> No.5377731

>>5375917
Is GR not as convoluted as CoL49? I wanted to read it but was afraid it would just be a 800 page mess. I went for IV instead and have to say I really enjoy it so far, unlike 49 which I'm guessing isn't a style he kept for all his other books.

>> No.5377735

This book is overrated.

>> No.5377781

>>5375981
It is we* who are being* trolled.
Watch your intransitives and passive.

>> No.5377827

>>5375733
Clearly, she was just a ghost trying figure out the pieces of her subconscious. Did you even pay attention to the book, OP.

>> No.5377841

>>5377735
its not overrated, its just the easiest introduction to postmodernist literature. you aren't going to tell somebody with a passing interest in postmodernism to take on gravity's rainbow or naked lunch right away

>> No.5377850

>>5375874

>it's purposely written badly