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Is Sartre the shittiest philosopher of all time? I just read Existentialism is a Humanism and it was some retarded ass basic little babby opinion folk philosophy bullshit.

MUH 100% FREE WILL
MUH ACT THE WAY YOU THINK EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD ACT
MUH NO SUCH THING AS HUMAN NATURE
MUH OPTIMISM
MUH FINGERLESS PROUST WOULD NOT BE A GENIUS IF HE WROTE HIS BOOKS IN HIS HEAD

>> No.5345208

quality shitposting m8

>> No.5345211

>>5345205

>Is Sartre the shittiest philosopher of all time?

If by shittiest you mean most overrated, then yes.

Yes he is.

>> No.5345213

>>5345208
i perfectly summarized his essay

>> No.5345217

Read a Critique of Dialectical Reason if you want to see him whip out the big guns.

>> No.5345232
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5345232

The desire for "freedom of will" in the superlative, metaphysical sense, such as still holds sway, unfortunately, in the minds of the half-educated, the desire to bear the entire and ultimate responsibility for one's actions oneself, and to absolve God, the world, ancestors, chance, and society therefrom, involves nothing less than to be precisely this causa sui, and, with more than Munchausen daring, to pull oneself up into existence by the hair, out of the slough of nothingness.

The "non-free will" is mythology; in real life it is only a question of strong and weak will.

>> No.5345238

>muh MUH

Guess what shithole this faggot crawled out from

>> No.5345243

>>5345232
Based Neetchee

>> No.5345254

>>5345238
kiss my ass

>> No.5345257

why did he never fix his lazy eye?

>> No.5345260

>>5345205
yes yes yes... wait wait wait
>MUH NO SUCH THING AS HUMAN NATURE
he's right, the problem is just that he thinks, very very very stupidly, that an individual can shape its own nature; he has no considerations for any society and history and he falls into fucking humanism with which he willingly identifies. humanism: a clear belief in human nature.

>> No.5345270

>>5345257
Yogic techniques for fixing eyesight were associated with eastern philosophy and thus considered taboo to the professional western philosopher.

>> No.5345280

>>5345257
Freedom.

>> No.5345287

I'm not op but I read the first half of nausea and put it down. Is the second half better or is more of the same boring observational bullshit from a loser protagonist?

>> No.5345289

>tfw not sure if we have free will or not

>> No.5345295

>>5345205
Do you care to give your thoughts on one of those five points or do you expect us to pretend that you gave any arguments?

>> No.5345296

>>5345289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74

>> No.5345309

>>5345205
⇒Is Sartre the shittiest philosopher of all time?
The Greeks are more shittier.

>>5345260
⇒he's right
No, he isn't. Learn some biology.

>> No.5345310

>>5345295
pretend

>> No.5345311

>>5345296
didn't rush write an ayn rand fanfic album?

>> No.5345323

evidence that sartre was completely full of shit

exhibit 1, his death: http://youtu.be/C9UoHWWd214

>> No.5345340

>>5345310
No problem, just another thread to hide then.

>> No.5345344

>>5345311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeFfiN-htZg

>> No.5345444

>>5345232
Fucking based.

>> No.5345460
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>>5345280
Exactly.

"I have been wanting to point both my eyes in the same direction, but nothing, not even an eye patch, could compel them to do so ... the permanent possibility of my eyes pointing in opposite directions is the very condition of the possibility of one day not looking like a surprised chameleon with a terrible haircut."
-Being Ugly and Nothingness

>> No.5345520

>>5345232
Hey arrow, respond to this with your shitty rhetoric please.

>> No.5345568
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>>5345232
>>5345243
>>5345444
>>5345520

>> No.5345597

Nigga you sound mad.

That being said I think Sartre's popularity stems from being a dumbed down version of Heidegger. He was more of a cultural gatekeeper. Introduced a lot of other contemporary thinkers to what poets/philosophers to pay attention to.

>> No.5345601

>>5345257
Wait. You can 'fix' a lazy eye?

>> No.5345627

Camus > Sartre

>> No.5345676

"I think, therefore I am a moustache."

Quote from Sartre's "masterpiece" Nausea

>> No.5345789
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5345789

>>5345205
>>5345597

> "I remember once hearing Hubert Dreyfus in an interview, in reply to the question why he preferred Heidegger to Sartre, quote approvingly Heidegger's summary judgement of Sartre: 'Dreck.' What Brian told me was that Heidegger had Sartre's Being and Nothingness on his desk but hadn't actually read it. 'I'm not reading that shit,' he said."

>> No.5345850

>>5345601
sometimes, I think you just wear a patch over the good eye until the bad one corrects itself. It depends on the reason for having a lazy eye, but I am pretty sure there are surgeries

>> No.5345870

itt: frustraded teenagers circlerjerk about how much they hate a certain philosopher like he a member of a hostile street gang.

>> No.5345882

>>5345870
forgot an "is"

>> No.5346039

>>5345789
is it me or does that quote doesn't into grammar at all?

>> No.5346059
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5346059

>>5345882
>forgot an "is"

mfw

>> No.5346060

>>5345311
its not really an ayn rand fanfic

its like a dystopian setting in which music is considered useless

so a kid finds a guitar and shows it the bureacrauts and it gets blown up so he kills himself

>> No.5346066

>>5345789
That reminds me of the Derrida quote in which he says something like "I haven't read most of the books I own. In fact, I've read maybe 3-4 of them. But those ones I read really, really well."

>> No.5346681

>>5345232


I had no idea Nietzsche was this badass. I'm going to read him.