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Literally every single word moved me to tears

Any other books do that for you /lit/?

>> No.5323645

>>5323635
it's all down hill from here m8

>> No.5323646

Damn dude, that's my favorite book as well. I also speak a little Latin and wear glasses.

>> No.5323658

I cried when I read the first letter of Moby Dick

>> No.5323761

>>5323645

Not true. Wait until you read War and Peace.

But Ulysses also has great things in it. I don’t like that people who read it and think that the most important things are the references and the “parallels” between the novel and The Odyssey, that sort of people whose real pleasure is catch citations of other works in Ulysses. And all that stupidity about body parts/colors/type of art/Odyssey parallels (you know, that table that is generally printed in the preface) - that’s simply a waste of time. There are also those pedants who state that “You must have read all of Shakespeare and the Homeric works to really understand Ulysses”, something which is clearly not true.

The real glory of Ulysses is the detailing of humanity: I don’t think that any other book paid so much attention to its main characters (every little aspect of them), from the process of thought to the most basic bodily functions. Sweat in Bloom’s hat; the mucus in Stephen’s nose and the lice in his hair, Bloom defecating: even these small particulars are analyzed and mentioned.

Some chapters of Ulysses are far better than others. In general the ones where Joyce uses a plain and straightforward style are the best ones. His verbal mastery is also great, but Shakespeare is far superior to him in that aspect. However to me no character in Shakespeare is as detailed and true as Bloom.

>> No.5323769

>>5323635
>Literally every single word moved me to tears
"Stately,"

BBBAAAAWWWWW

>> No.5323771

>literally
You are destroying our language.

>> No.5323781

>>5323635
>Deshil Holles Eamus
>Horhorn
>Hoopsa boyaboy

>breaks up in tears

>> No.5323806

>>5323771
>it's 2014 and this guy is still autistic

>> No.5323877
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5323877

>>5323635
>Literally

Why do people keep abusing this word?

>> No.5323902

>>5323877
I'm afraid to use it (correctly) at this point, like 'ironic.'

>> No.5323916
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5323916

>>5323635
you know this is a complete lie
Ulysses the pretentiousness champion for all eternity

>> No.5323925

>>5323761
You use these lines in order to approach some jailbait hipster?
serious question

>> No.5323931

>>5323761
>>5323761
Nailed it. Ulysses works so well to me because at the core of everything Joyce is doing is the desire to represent humanity as honestly as possible. That and he toys with structure like no other.

>> No.5323957

>>5323902
That's moronic.

>> No.5325837

I passed out cold when walked into the room where I first laid eyes on The Arabian Nights.

>> No.5325975

To the Lighthouse

like Joyce, she was trying to fit everything she knew about humanity in her novel.

>> No.5325980

>Our. Little. Beggar. Baby.

I've never felt sadder reading a novel

>> No.5325986

>>5323635
Honestly, is Ulysses the most overrated thing to ever have existed?

>> No.5325988
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5325988

>>5325980
>Meant nothing. Mistake of nature.

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5326015

>>5325980
>>5325988
>They have no mercy on that here or infanticide. Refuse christian burial. They used to drive a stake of wood through his heart in the grave. As if it wasn't broken already. Yet sometimes they repent too late. Found in the riverbed clutching rushes.

>he looked away from me. He knows. Rattle his bones
>Thought he was asleep at first. Then saw like yellow streaks on his face. Had slipped down to the foot of the bed. Verdict: overdose. Death b misadventure. The letter. For my son Leopold.
>No more pain. Wake no more. Nobody owns.

>I will appear to you after death. You will see my ghost after death. My ghost will haunt you after death. There is another world after death named hell. I do not like that other world she wrote.

That whole chapter....
and then..

>Bloom
> (Wonderstruck, calls inaudibly.) Rudy!

>Rudy
> (gazes unseeing into Bloom's eyes nd goes on reading, kissing, smiling. He has a delicate mauve face. On his suit he has diamond and ruby buttons. In his free left hand he holds a slim ivory cane with a violet bowknot. A white lambkin peeps out of his waistcoat pocket)

>> No.5326018

>>5323877
because that's how it's used these days
people learn language by the way other people talk, not by reading dictionaries
deal with it nerd

>> No.5326021

What should I read before reading Ulysses, /lit/?

>> No.5326022

>>5326021
Whatever the fuck you want, jesus fucking christ.

We're not your goddamn parents.

>> No.5326024

>>5326022
I mean to get the best experience, you cuntfucked cancerbutt

>> No.5326030

>>5323635
got in a huge debate over this today

You-Liss-Ease?
You-Liss-Sis?

some faggot overheard us and said "ull-yes-es", but I know he was trolling

>> No.5326033

>>5326022
My god, you're like a pathetic fucking autistic child "MOOOMMMM"
"MMMOOOOMMMMMMM"
"TELL ME WHAT TO DO"
"IM TOO RETARDED TO GOOGLE OR READ INSTRUCTIONS"

>> No.5326035

>>5326033
It seems you're getting pretty upset here, champ.

>> No.5326037

>>5326030
Ul-es-eases

>> No.5326038

>>5323658
>/lit/ in one sentence

>> No.5326048

Moby Dick is about 100% better than Ulysses. Go figure...

>> No.5326067

>>5323635
>Literally every single word moved me to tears
lol

>> No.5326092

>>5323635
>Literally every single word moved me to tears...
...from boredom?

Yeah, me too.

>> No.5326096

>>5325975
>like Joyce, she was trying to fit everything she knew about humanity in her novel.
Must be a pretty short novel then.

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>>5323635
>Literally

pls die

>> No.5326105

>>5323761
>The real glory of Ulysses is the detailing of humanity: I don’t think that any other book paid so much attention to its main characters (every little aspect of them), from the process of thought to the most basic bodily functions. Sweat in Bloom’s hat; the mucus in Stephen’s nose and the lice in his hair, Bloom defecating: even these small particulars are analyzed and mentioned.

This is funny. Yeah, this all depends on what you think makes a person, what the essence of a man is. If you are a materialist and think that man is made up of bits of matter, then I suppose Joyce did a decent job of describing man. But a lot of people would say that Joyce's picture is too microscopic, focusing too much on small detail. Its like this: if you look at a beautiful woman close enough she isn't beautiful anymore. If you get so close to her that all you see is a fraction of her cheek then she is no longer beautiful. If you get too far away such that she's just a blur on the horizon, she also ceases to be a beautiful woman. So, in order to capture the essence of a beautiful woman you need to have the right perspective. So by going in for a microscopic materialist picture of man you lose just as much as you gain. You say that Ulysses details humanity; I would see that it misses the essence of humanity because the essence of humanity is not the body. You can describe a dog shitting and pissing and sneezing.

>What expectations I had formed, and how grievously was I disappointed! As I proceeded, I found my philosopher altogether forsaking mind or any other principle of order, but having recourse to air, and ether, and water, and other eccentricities. I might compare him to a person who began by maintaining generally that mind is the cause of the actions of Socrates, but who, when he endeavoured to explain the causes of my several actions in detail, went on to show that I sit here because my body is made up of bones and muscles; and the bones, as he would say, are hard and have joints which divide them, and the muscles are elastic, and they cover the bones, which have also a covering or environment of flesh and skin which contains them; and as the bones are lifted at their joints by the contraction or relaxation of the muscles, I am able to bend my limbs, and this is why I am sitting here in a curved posture—that is what he would say, and he would have a similar explanation of my talking to you, which he would attribute to sound, and air, and hearing, and he would assign ten thousand other causes of the same sort, forgetting to mention the true cause, which is, that the Athenians have thought fit to condemn me, and accordingly I have thought it better and more right to remain here and undergo my sentence; for I am inclined to think that these muscles and bones of mine would have gone off long ago to Megara or Boeotia—

>> No.5326106

>>5326096
rekt

>> No.5326110

>>5326105
Joyce himself described Ulysses as "an epic of the human body". tbh I think he should have left that task to the biologists, lol

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5326338

>>5323769

This is basically how I imagine everyone who creams over this book.

Who'd you dress up for on Bloomsday, OP? You fucking loser.

>> No.5326343

>>5326110
Jude, you should perhaps reread Joyce, for he was anything but a materialist.

>> No.5326927

>>5326048
HELL. YES.

>> No.5326956

>>5326343
Jude is EbolaKid's new handle. Don't directly engage with it.

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5327567

>>5323877
what word should I use?

>> No.5327591

>>5327567
... figuratively

>> No.5328199

>>5327591
Learn how linguistics work fuckass

>> No.5328217

>>5328199
Linguistics has nothing to say about how to use language correctly.

>> No.5328224

It's one of those books where you pick up and see entirely new things each time you read it, there's an incredible amount of subtext in it.

>> No.5328976

>>5328224
That's most books.

But yeah, Ulysses is an astounding work. Do people here really roll their eyes at it? I mean, it really changes immensely from chapter to chapter. If you didn't like the style in one chapter, then you might find that you like the next.

>> No.5328984

>>5323635
lol how much of a faggot can you be.

>> No.5328997

>>5325975
What a gorgeous book. Closest that comes to really getting a "right" portrayal of our temporal sense of being.

>> No.5329017

>>5328976

First chapter I read was Ithaca, instantly realized Joyce was a troll. Ulysses is some entertaining shiet.

>> No.5329385

>>5329017
Joyce is a troll, but that doesn't preclude him from being a talented writer

>> No.5329418

>>5326037
Yule-essentags-dysentery

>> No.5330686

>>5323635
>every single word moved me to tears
No it didn't.

>> No.5330912

>>5330686
Who are you to say?
Fuck you, you don't know shit about tears

>> No.5331578

I literally shit vomited and creamed myself the first time someone mentioned The Old Man And The Sea.

>> No.5331700

>>5326030
pretty sure it's
you'll ee ess seees

At least I've heard several people say it like that and that's how I'd say it

>> No.5331710

Is this melodrama general

I just ate a Twix and it literally was a balm to my soul applied by a caramel sex mistress and her chocolate feet on my tongue