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5268856 No.5268856[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Where do I start with Wittgenstein? Are there any particular philosophers I need to read before him?

>> No.5268865

Wittgenstein is the final boss of philosophy.

I mean this when I say it: read as much other philosophy as you can, then read him.

I guarantee it will go over your head if you aren't well versed in philosophy.

>> No.5268897

>>5268865
what? No.

OP, read some Frege and Russel to get some context for his early work then dive in.

>> No.5268899

About 99.4% of the time anyone who praises him is a fucking retard that just read about how brilliant he was. He was a genius and I love him.

He only wrote a couple books, so I would probably start with those couple books.

>> No.5268906

>>5268899
tell me why he was a genius

>> No.5268937

Why are philosophical works placed as if they are a linear path game working up in complexity. If a certain philosophy can't stand on its own and requires years of prerequisite study to 'get it' how can it truly be great?

>> No.5268943

>>5268937
all western philosophy is a footnote of Plato

>> No.5268945

>>5268943
Good ol' pluto.

>> No.5268953

>>5268906
Why is any genius a genius?

>> No.5268965

>>5268945
God damnt lol. Every time.

>> No.5268967

>>5268953
idiot

>> No.5269009

>>5268937
Schoopy please stop whining about Hegel again.

>> No.5269016

>>5268953
"The words chance and genius do not denote any really existing thing and therefore cannot be defined. Those words only denote a certain stage of understanding of phenomena. I do not know why a certain event occurs; I think that I cannot know it; so I do not try to know it and I talk about chance. I see a force producing effects beyond the scope of ordinary human agencies; I do not understand why this occurs and I talk of genius."
- Tolstoy, and I agree

>> No.5269040

>>5269016
laide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/lit/chapter9.html

>> No.5269043

>>5269009
find other place to lrn about philosophy than existential comics

>> No.5269064

>>5268953
lmao

>> No.5269114

>this thread

God damn /lit/ is awful.

>> No.5269125

>>5269114
and ur helping....?????

>> No.5269392

>>5268856
All of them

>> No.5269418
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5269418

Pic related is ok, or I would say just have a good general knowledge of Russell and Frege and then start the Tractatus. The latter will be hard work but you'll be fine as long as you take your time and take notes. Don't progress until you understand everything you've read.

>> No.5269555

watch the 1993 biopic

>> No.5269709

Start. With. The. Greeks.

Maybe like a biography or something. I got this cool comic about introducing witty and the ray monk book. I think though just some basic understanding of logic and some elbow grease will be good.
duty of genius is a great book, though. I'd rec reading regardless.

>> No.5271886

>>5268937
Philosophy is a multi-millennia conversation. All philosophers engage with their precursors and contemporaries and at least tried to write for future generations. None of them simply wrote down the thoughts they had kicking around their head, they built their philosophies out of the rest of philosophy and tried to think things a little but further than anyone else yet had. If you don't know where a philosopher is coming from, if you don't know what they're responding to and the history of the problems they're dealing with, you're not going to understand what it is they're doing.

Philosophers write for other philosophers, not laymen with no understanding of philosophy.

>> No.5271983

Read the stoics. Then forget about wittgenstein. He was wrong.

>> No.5272029

>>5271983
if anything 4chan proves wittgenstein right

>> No.5272059

>>5268856
You don't
You just read Hume, realize that philosophy is bullshit, then go make a sandwich or something

>> No.5272077

>>5269418
based. can anyone tell me why grayling is to be ignored?

>> No.5272107

>>5268856
Do I really need to read Meditations. Descartes is so boring

>> No.5272111

>>5272059
>English philosophers

>> No.5272129

>>5272111
>english
le indignant alex salmond face

>> No.5272161

>>5272077
amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0192854119/ref=cm_rdphist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0