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Have you read your Tractatus today?

>> No.5265160
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5265160

No.

>> No.5265161

⇒"Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen."

RIP philosophy

>> No.5265193
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I uhhh... well... w/r/t Wittgenstein.... uhhhh

>> No.5265213

>>5265160
>tfw only 5% of womens have a such pair of nice tits.
I want to suck those nipples

>> No.5265219

>>5265161
No not really. It creates the perfect base to come to your own individual conclusions about metaphysical subjects
If you see philosophy as a piece of art, Wittgenstein says that you should just appreciate is beauty in stead of trying to explain it.

>> No.5265235

>>5265213

most are just fat

>> No.5265245

>>5265193
Fucking hilarious.

>> No.5265252

I wonder if there will ever exist such a being as to be capable of comprehending reality.

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>>5265235
>tfw the day when I've discovered that 95% of real womens haven't nice tits like in statues/paints/irl_with_a_bra, moreover flabby asses everywhere...

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>>5265270
>tfw the first time you realize that tits don't naturally defy gravity and that's just bras making them stay up like that
>tfw the first time you realize the back arching trick girls use in photos

They were lying the whole time

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>>5265300
>tfw all the girls with whom you find yourself in tune treat their body like a dump

>> No.5265352

>>5265300
When I get a girlfriend I'm gonna tell her to wear push up bras. I don't care if it's disingenuous, they look amazing

>> No.5265357

>>5265352
>implying I will ever have a girlfriend

>> No.5265362

>>5265300
Gotta go for the smallish ones, dawg. No sagging and they usually have nice shape.

shape>>>>>size for both boobs and butts


On topic though: no I have not read TLP today, I did read it like two weeks ago though. Was thinking about going through it again before the semester starts.

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>>5265362
not him but
>Implying most of the cute girls not just dieting without any form exercise (maybe some bland running)
pic related is just diet vs diet plus pumping iron

>> No.5265675

>>5265350
That pic. My sides are in Sputnik 13.

>> No.5265676

>>5265157

I tried reading it once but it was just really pretentious and obscure and I didn't really understand what he was getting at so I just gave up.

How come philosophers never just clearly say what they mean? Is it because not even they are sure of what they mean...

>> No.5265678
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5265678

>tractaus
>not investigations
stop

>> No.5265683

>>5265219

This is to ignore the fact that Philosophy is an attempt at explanation - to deny that is just ridiculous.

Would be like practicing theology without believing in God, and yet citing it's beauty as a justification

>> No.5265684

>>5265676
No. It's because most of whatever /lit/ enjoys is verbal masturbation. Shitty writers enjoy how their work sounds, rather than what it means.

>> No.5265687

>>5265676
>This book will perhaps only be understood by those who have themselves already thought the thoughts expressed in it- or similar thoughts. It is therefore not a textbook. Its object would be attained if there were one person would read it with understanding and to whom it afforded pleasure.\

>> No.5265828

>>5265676
Did you read the prologue? If I'm not wrong it's a two pages prolog. It is the only worthy to read.

It's kind of original, although it stinks.

Only reading the prologue you should know, as later will Wittgenstein say (he was a bit slowpoke, you see), that his tractus don't meet the authour's goal (and like the prolog states, if it's not perfect is not worth at all).

>> No.5265857

>>5265676
It's the opposite of obscure, it's ridiculously precise.

>> No.5266004

nope. haven't gotten to moore/russell yet. still on muh enlightenment

>> No.5266026

>>5265857
What he meant I'm sure, is that Wittgenstein often doesn't explain how one proposition follows from another, you have to make the connection yourself. Usually it's clear but there are a few that are a bit ambiguous. Re-reading it is hugely beneficial imo, it suddenly clicks a lot better because you have most of the framework already in your head so the connections form more easily.

>> No.5266124

>>5266026
why someone would spend time trying to understand a framework that is completely wrong?

>> No.5266140

>>5266124
Well its not entirely wrong, its a pretty useful examination of language at least. I find it interesting in any case. Besides we still read Plato, its not as though he was right about much.

>> No.5266377

>>5266124
It's not wrong

>> No.5266396

>>5265678
>not both

no u

>> No.5268550

>>5265157
>Have you read your Tractatus today?

God, no. I'm reading Korzybski instead.

>> No.5269145

>>5265161
BTWIMAGRILL

You completely misunderstood the tractatus. The statements are supposed to be self-evident propositions, akin to mathematical theorems that need no proof because they are "obvious". Whatever that means. Propositions 1-7 are the main of these, the rest are just explanations on these points and subpoints of those points. Wittgenstein also heavily criticized the tractatus in his posthumously published book "Philosophical Investigations".