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5241033 No.5241033 [Reply] [Original]

With The Hunger Games, The Giver, The Maze Runner, Divergent etc. it's clear the futuristic dystopian novel has replaced the vampire trend of recent. I know they're all just poorly-written young adult fiction published for a quick buck, but which trend is more annoying? I'm getting pretty sick of seeing ads for these things everywhere I look.

>> No.5241290

I thought it was all about zombies

>> No.5241311

>>5241290
That was probably partly due to the supernatural nature of vampires.

>> No.5241318

>caring about young adult fiction and blockbuster films

Nigga who fucking cares what teenyboppers enjoy.

>> No.5241321
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>>5241033

>MFW been working on a dystopian fantasy series I was in high-school (over ten years ago).
>MFW almost complete.
>MFW market is overrun with total shit within the past year and I'll forever be labeled a YA author if I try to publish right now
>MFW No longer have the will to finish the series.

Feels bad man.

>> No.5241323

you do realize the giver wasn't written 20 years ago right?

>> No.5241330

>>5241318
I do. That goddamn Bieber. My fucking blood boils.

>> No.5241331

>>5241033
I think that adults (or at least, college kids) reading YA in general is really sad.


Harry Potter fans especially piss me off because they're all my age (22ish) and I never got into it as a kid.

I mean, I loved Goosebumps books as a kid but I don't still read them.

>> No.5241338

>>5241321

I'd rather be labeled a YA author than an author of "dystopian fantasy".

>> No.5241339

>>5241321
If it's good it's good. Don't give up on it because people might THINK that it's YA without having read it.

>> No.5241347

>>5241338
Right?

If anything it will make getting published easier and maybe even increase your sales. That's never a bad thing. Quit being a hipster, anon. Writing is just as much a business as it is an art.

>> No.5241354

Well the vampire stuff definitely made me cringe harder.

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5241518

I read the Hunger Games series a few months before the first movie came out. I rather enjoyed it.

>> No.5241567

If anything the YA dystopia trend annoys me more because now it's ever more likely that movie execs will pattern film adaptations of decent scifi off of things like hunger games.

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5241687

I am probably going to get shat on for this, but this book was actually pretty good.
Yeah parts of it were very cliche ( THE GOVT IS OPPRESHING US GUYS!!) but I liked it.

>> No.5242292

>>5241321
You stand a better chance of actually getting published when there's actually a market for what you're writing.

The tradeoff is that the editors will gut your work and make you use middle-school level vocabulary to be able to sell it.

>> No.5242546

>>5242292

This is my biggest fear and exactly why I don't want to submit for publishing right now. I may sit on it for another decade and see how it fairs then.

>> No.5242629

Kids these days. Am I right?

>> No.5242657

I enjoyed The Giver. Made me realize that every novel needs a little eroticism.

>> No.5242732

>>5242657
I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked up on the fact that the Giver was basically grooming Jonas to be his boy concubine.

>> No.5242918

>>5241321
Add some swear words, some sex, and violence. Might be enough to pull you out of the YA category.

>> No.5242931

I don't really understand how people can genuinely view YA fiction as an actual genre. Like, the premise of it is that "young adult" readers can handle mature topics and themes, thus positioning YA fiction as the channel through which YA readers can access those ideas - but if the topics and themes are truly mature, then why not just read regular fiction? I know I'm preaching to the choir here but it's a distinction that has no reason to exist outside of a marketing context and it's really tiring seeing people consistently fooled into believing that it's a term that has any right to exist.

>> No.5242977

>>5242931
Of course it's partly a marketing concern, but that applies to the genre of literary fiction too.

>> No.5244798

>>5241687
wtf is that

>> No.5244811

YA books have always been my guilty pleasures, I did enjoy reading The Hunger Games and Harry Potter.

>> No.5245846

>>5241330
Are you 15 years old?

>> No.5246873

>>5241033
The Giver isn't even fucking new. Are you kidding me righ tnow?

>> No.5246959

>>5242918

Then it'll just be another Malazan/ASoIaF/First Law. Gritty and violent low-fantasy is quickly becoming the high fantasy of the '70's and '80's.

>> No.5247077

>>5241033
Fifty Shades of I Wish I Was a Teenage Girl Without Responsibilities Again, is the worst. It is literally based on Twilight fan fiction.

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5247157

>suddenly everyone hates dystopian novels

Sooo... I was writing this story that is essentially a mix between Notes from Underground and Fallout/Dr Bloodmoney.

How fucked am I?

>> No.5247250

>>5241033
Dystopian is already out for editors and agents.

>> No.5247436

>>5242732
What the fuck are you talking about? End your existence.

>> No.5248485

>>5247436
no u

>> No.5248509

>>5241331
I'm in teacher's training (English, English and German next semester), so I deal with YA, as it'll be important in my job. But I guess my perspective on it is simply different then.

>> No.5249321

>>5241321
Don't be discouraged.

Finish it! and make some bank, if you can!

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I just finished reading 1984, and now i'm even more pissed at HG

I remember a couple of months ago somebody said the point of HG was that the individual eventually gets fucked if he tries to stand against the moltitude, and that in the end even the "good guys" just want power.

It's the same thing 1984 did, at least plot wise. The main difference is that while the woman at the head of the rebellion in HG wanted to enstablish her new dictatorship, O'Brien faked to be part of a rebellion but was actually still from the party. Also HG as some kind of "happy but not really ending", but that's a detail

Now i get it, HG truly is the new 1984, because it's the same damn plot + a bit of Battle Royale

I can't believe there's people taking the series seriously, even some of my friends do. It's like they're blinded by this need of following some literary hero that they seem to have since they got into Harry Potter as kids.

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5249581

I just finished reading 1984, and now i'm even more pissed at HG

I remember a couple of months ago somebody said the point of HG was that the individual eventually gets fucked if he tries to stand against the moltitude, and that in the end even the "good guys" just want power.

*SPOILERS for 1984 (and HG too)*

It's the same thing 1984 did, at least plot wise. The main difference is that while the woman at the head of the rebellion in HG wanted to enstablish her new dictatorship, O'Brien faked to be part of a rebellion but was actually still from the party. Also HG as some kind of "happy but not really ending", but that's a detail

Now i get it, HG truly is the new 1984, because it's the same damn plot + a bit of Battle Royale

I can't believe there's people taking the series seriously, even some of my friends do. It's like they're blinded by this need of following some literary hero that they seem to have since they got into Harry Potter as kids.

>> No.5249672

>>5249581
>It's like they're blinded by this need of following some literary hero that they seem to have since they got into Harry Potter as kids.
haven't read hunger games but I can identify with this exact sentiment. so many view harry potter as this transformative literary experience rather than a childish (not "immature," but literally for-children) infatuation with a thing, not unlike how i was into college football video games when I was young. somehow harry potter has this fundamental influence on so many readers that discolors the way they interact with literature for the rest of their life

>> No.5250487

>>5241033
It's still far better than the vampires. Hell, if anything, maybe it'll get some of them to move on to 1984 and Brave New World when they mature.