/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.5237345]

can we have one of these threads?

just finished pic related... should have just skipped it and gone directly to Ride the Tiger. not at all what i expected. last few chapters were good.

[Anonymous No.5237361]

No we can't have one of these threads.

[Anonymous No.5237372]

also read this right before.

i'm being unfair it was actually a very good book.

[Anonymous No.5237398]

>>5237345

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[Anonymous No.5237448]

wow someone already did it.

where can i purchase this absolutely FABULOUS version of phaedrus holy shit.

[Anonymous No.5237452]

>>5237398
Are you being serious? I want to read this book.

[Anonymous No.5237455]

>>5237448
http://ilovemags.com/product/phaedrus-pdf/

oh no... it's not a joke...

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[Anonymous No.5237528]

so ggod

[Anonymous No.5237535]

>>5237452
cats cradle is funny as fuck and can be read in one sitting, do your self a favor

[Anonymous No.5237540]

>>5237535
is it about cats?

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[Anonymous No.5237546]

>>5237540
No it's about a woman named Catherine who recently had a baby.

[Anonymous No.5237548]

>>5237543
>iron maiden
Hue. Why did you expect that?
I like that band

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[Anonymous No.5237633]

>>5237543
are you saying you knew that feel? because meursault is not exactly a guy you want to be relating with...

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[Anonymous No.5237651]

>>5237633
No, that particular image is associate with people who are alienated and think they're better than everyone and it gets caught up into a vicious circle of alienation and elitism. Or something like that. Come on. Don't be such a newfag and lurk moar.

[Anonymous No.5237669]

>>5237635
Fucking this, I don't see why this inference isn't made more often. Ellis and Melville are very similar in terms of prose and subject matter.

[Anonymous No.5237691]

>>5237669
I remember reading these two back to back and seeing a lot of similarities.
Ellis clearly structured American Psycho after Moby Dick. It's not too big of a stretch considering Ellis was a creative writing major when creative writing majors were still expected to read.
I haven't been able to find a comparison of the two anywhere unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.5237734]

>>5237633
>tfw meursault is the most relatable character I have ever read in a book

[Anonymous No.5237772]

Incident at Krechatovka Station

[Anonymous No.5237805]

>>5237430
Needs a streetmap

[Anonymous No.5237852]

>>5237625
I had the exact same experience. nabokov is funny as hell and I had no idea

[Anonymous No.5237862]

>>5237772
So did you not like it? I admit the first part was a little dry but I thought it set the atmosphere well. I found the actual "incident" eerie as hell.

[Anonymous No.5237872]

>>5237862
I didn't really like it, it felt way too drawn out, the incident only happened in the last 5 or so % of the story. The other story in the book, Matryonas House, i loved that one

[Anonymous No.5237894]

>>5237872
Interesting. I just enjoyed the picture he painted of the station in the evening, the Russian blizzard outside, the gaslamps, the bureaucracy and the military and the tension of the wartime... But yeah it was a slow. On the other hand I thought the second story was fairly predictable and pointless, even the narrator doesn't admit the woman was worth a damn until the last page and that's after we spend the story just watching how miserable these people are. What did you like about it?

[Anonymous No.5237898]

>>5237734
sociopath

[Anonymous No.5237903]

>>5237894
My family comes from a small town in East Europe and the story reminded of it. How did you find it predictable? That train accident came out of no where

[Anonymous No.5237909]

>>5237903
It did come out of nowhere but we knew she was gonna die someway or another. That's cool you're from EE though, are there any other Russian books that stand out to you as capturing that life?

[Anonymous No.5237927]

>>5237909
Fair enough. And I don't really have any others to recommend because I've only recently started reading.

[Anonymous No.5237998]

>>5237898
He didnt even cry when mersault died! Kill him!

[Anonymous No.5238243]

>>5237595
I don't get it. Why did you expect Napoleon?

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[Anonymous No.5238291]

>>5237734
I know that feel. I'm not a sociopath, but I think I might be slightly autistic.

[Anonymous No.5238736]

>>5237345
you have to be prepared for dry intellectual works that deal with history, details and facts
that's what these books always were. They're hyped by people who can spot hidden gems
they can be good, but don't have unrealistic expectations

[Anonymous No.5238769]

>>5238736
>implying i believe in magic

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[Anonymous No.5238808]

>>5238779
how is dubliners?

[Anonymous No.5238820]

>>5238808
I really liked it. It starts off kind of slow but the later stories are really good, especially The Dead, A Mother, Counterparts, A Little Cloud, and After the Race.

I guess they're not really stories at all but they (in their entirety) give you an idea of what it's like to live in Dublin from childhood to death.

[Anonymous No.5238830]

>>5237448

Good anon, may I know the source for that pic in the middle?

It emanates such badassery.

[Anonymous No.5238832]

>No template

[Anonymous No.5238833]

>>5238830
Not him, but the center of the painting School of Athens (Raphael)

[Anonymous No.5238837]

>>5237455

You think that's revolting?

Scroll to the bottom of that link

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[Anonymous No.5238925]

>>5238915
your expectation was as stupid as your interpretation

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[Anonymous No.5238931]

>>5237372
I want to read that book. Is it seriously that empty of interesting new ideas?

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[Anonymous No.5238937]

>>5238925
I'm a Norse Heathen, you fucking faggot. I want blood.

[Anonymous No.5238956]

>>5238927
That's only true for some parts. Still funny tough.

[Anonymous No.5239020]

>Roussel killed himself because he was unknown

[Anonymous No.5239030]

>>5237528

God are his erotic poems hot...

[Anonymous No.5239042]

>>5239030
they don't call him cummings for nothing

>tfw you dont know if you'll complete the mystery of your flesh

[Anonymous No.5239080]

just finished this one.

[Anonymous No.5239112]

>>5238937
Then you're not really a follower of the old ways beyond being an edgy teenager. You didn't understand the text at all which is doubly sad because it's one of the few remaining texts that describe the old ways. By saying it's fedora and jewish you've just shown your ignorance to the entire board. Stop being an edgy teenager and just call yourself an athiest like the rest of your hot topic friends.

[Anonymous No.5239161]

>>5238779
Why is there a picture of D.H. Lawrence on that book cover?

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>>5237345

[Anonymous No.5239274]

>>5238927
Pretty much

[Anonymous No.5239295]

>>5238931
Hell no, it's an amazing book, though Debord's writing might be somewhat dull every now and then (but this makes sense, when you consider he wrote the whole book as a detournement exercise, appropriating other authors sentences and paragraphs to his book's context. This might seem dumb or wrong or whatever, but it makes a lot of sense within his ideas, just read Report on the Construction of Situations and the first number of Le Internationale Situationniste for better explanations).

Though some of his ideas might have been appropriated - recovered and even well spread amongst members of the modern left, his stuff is still top notch critique of late capitalism and state socialism.

[Anonymous No.5239334]

>>5239295
>This might seem dumb or wrong or whatever
It sounds awesome to me, a kind of "derridean subversion" maybe. Will check out the book.

[Anonymous No.5239450]

>>5238833

Ah. Nice, thanks.

[Anonymous No.5239483]

Work in progress, I'm not even finished the book.

[Anonymous No.5239632]

>>5237345

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>>5239632

Whats with the purple tickly thing

[Anonymous No.5239664]

>>5239655
purple prose

[Anonymous No.5239674]

>>5239655

More literally, it's a quill.

[Anonymous No.5239690]

>>5239483
haha, i like this one

[Anonymous No.5239851]

>>5239664

Wow. Thats clever. Damn.

Nice one.

[Anonymous No.5240102]

>>5237439
Science fiction, every single fucking time.

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>>5237345
>reads weird mystic religious writer
>gets mad that his book is about weird mystic religious shit

[Anonymous No.5240878]

>>5240852
Related
on a Kierkegaard binge.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241223]

>>5240852
>>5240878
based

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241234]

Read Kierkegaard's "Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing".

[Anonymous No.5241267]

>>5241234

where do you recommend to start with Kierkegaard? I tried reading Fear and Trembling a while ago and couldn't get into it, should I try again or something else?

On the face of it Kierkegaard should be right up my street but when I start reading I just can't keep attention.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241298]

Kierkegaard's writings are an antidote to a certain modern sickness, the belief in humanity and progress and the advance of scientific knowledge which makes the individual person insignificant. It's difficult for me to describe; it is a message contained in the writings of Hegel, Kierkegaard's nemesis. It's this sense that humanity is going somewhere and either you're with humanity or you are an insignificant reactionary that will be written out of world-history, and as world-history is all that matters you will be dying the Second Death, the spiritual death.
Kierkegaard is more or less a defence against modernity in general which champions the masses and mass movements and large social organizations rather than individual persons concerning themselves with spiritual/ethical perfection. The battle against man and "The Machine". All these modern tropes about angst are involved. It's why people talk a lot about "find themselves" and "existential crises" - they are never given chance to form an identity because they are taught that they belong to Humanity, or the State, or the Revolution, or some other movement/cause/organization.

[Anonymous No.5241304]

>>5239238
And all the fucking descriptions of bullfighting. he says in the book that only a select few can share his passion for bullfighting, why the fuck would he talk so much about it?

The book started great but it really doesn't know where to go in the end.

[Anonymous No.5241348]

>>5241298

didn't answer the question, but thanks for the post anyway, was interesting

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241369]

>>5241267
Fear and Trembling begins with a repetition on the story of Abraham's sacrificing of Isaac. I can see why you'd be bored.

If you are depressed or melancholy in any way, read The Sickness Unto Death (you'll encounter a lot of stuff that may sound incomprehensible, like, "Man is spirit. But what is spirit? Spirit is the self. But what is the self? The self is a relation which relates itself to its own self, or it is that in the relation [which accounts for it] that the relation relates itself to its own self; the self is not the relation but [consists in the fact] that the relation relates itself to its own self. Man is a synthesis of the infinite and the finite, of the temporal and the eternal, of freedom and necessity, in short it is a synthesis. A synthesis is a relation between two factors. So regarded, man is not yet a self." Don't get too distracted by analysing passages like these. In these passages Kierkegaard is half-joking, mocking Hegelian philosophy. If you keep reading you will find plenty of very well articulated psychological observations and insightful and witty insights into mankind).

If you want something more literary/poetic, Either/Or.

If you want social commentary there is a fair bit of it in a review of a book he did called, "The Present Age: a Literary Review", excerpt here: http://www.historyguide.org/europe/present_age.html

Something ethical/spiritual: Works of Love, or Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing.
A quote from the latter:

A man enters upon his life, hoping that all will go well for him and with good wishes for others. He steps out into the world's multiplicity, like one that comes from the country into the great noisy city, into the multiplicity where men engrossed in affairs hurry past one another, where each looks out for what belongs to him in the vast "back and forth," where everything is in passing, where it is as though at each instant one saw what he had learned borne out in practice, and in the same instant saw it refuted, without any cessation in the unrest of work, in multiplicity -- that all too vast a school of experience. For here one can experience everything possible, or that everything is possible, even what the inexperienced man would least believe, that the Good sits highest at the dinner table and crime next highest, or crime highest and the Good next highest -- in good company with each other. So this man stands there. He has in himself a susceptibility for the disease of double-mindedness. His feeling is purely immediate, his knowledge only strengthened through contemplation, his will not mature. Swiftly, alas, swiftly he is infected -- one more victim. This is nothing new, but an old story. As it has happened to him, so it has happened with the double-minded ones who have gone before him -- this in passing he now gives as his own excuse, for he has received the consecration of excuses.

[Anonymous No.5241371]

>>5241298

also, why is faith a virtue?

I always had this idea that we come closer to God by aligning our character with His, i.e by behaving like God. To me this means charity, love, acceptance of those around us, along with selflessness, courage etc, but why is faith so important.

[Anonymous No.5241383]

>>5237345

Iktf /pol/ brah. Hope his other books are good.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241396]

I'll post some quotes from The Present Age review I mentioned.

What is it to chat? It is to have repealed the passionate disjunction between being silent and speaking. Only the person who can remain essentially silent can essentially speak; only the person who can remain essentially silent can essentially act. Silence is inwardness. Talking forestalls essential speaking, and reflection’s utterance weakens action by stealing a march on it. But the person who can speak essentially because he can keep silent will not have a whole world to speak of – just the one thing – and he will find time both to speak and stay silent. Talkativeness gains in extensity: it has everything to talk about and goes on incessantly. In an age when individuals are not turned inwards in religious inwardness, quietly content, comfortably satisfied, but in the relationship of reflection search outwardly and for each other, when no great event ties the loose ends together in the unanimity of great change – the talking begins. The great event gives the passionate age (for the two go together) something to speak about; all want to speak about the same one thing – the poets sing about nothing else, it is alone what conversations echo, the greetings of passers-by contain references to this one thing. It is one and the same. Chatting, on the other hand, has a great deal to chat about. And so, when the important event was over, when silence returned, there was at least something to remember, something to think about, while one was silent; whereas a new generation speaks of quite different things. But chat dreads the moment of silence that would make the emptiness plain.

>[...] Suppose a law could be enforced – we can imagine it – suppose, that is, a law was made that didn’t forbid people to speak but merely enjoined that everything spoken about had to be spoken about as though it happened fifty years ago. All the chatterers would be done for, they would despair, and yet it couldn’t interfere with those genuinely able to speak. An actor’s mispronunciation of a word can be of real interest only if there is something remarkable in the slip of the tongue itself, and in that case the fifty years would make no difference – but Miss Gusta, for example , would be miserable; she who had been to the theatre herself that very evening, had sat in the box with the commercial counsellor’s lady, Mrs Waller, who had herself detected the mispronunciation and even seen one of the chorus laughing about it, etc. But it would indeed be a pity and a cruel fate for all these talkative people who, after all, also have to live; but that of course is why the law is just a posito.

[Anonymous No.5241417]

>>5239483
the whole "southern baron's fucked up, scandalous family tree" thing from True Detective is very similar to Go Down, Moses. Also, Absalom, Absalom has a bit as well

[Anonymous No.5241424]

>>5239080
was it good?

[Anonymous No.5241441]

>>5238915
Despite the fact that, apparently, the dude really misunderstood the whole thing and isn't being satirical...
... I still find that one hilarious.

[Anonymous No.5241443]

>>5241396

I usually hate tripfags, but you....I like you.

[Anonymous No.5241448]

>>5241424

Enh... Yeah? It was a really good read overall. But I was disappointed for what I was expecting. I was lead to believe that the beautiful parts of this book were the masterful way he handles sex and sexuality. I was, still am, really curious about the most artful and tasteful way to describe sex. This, on thee other hand felt cheap and a bit trashy, which, in its authenticity gave a really good feeling to the whole text. So... Yeah? It was good.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241453]

>>5241371
read this
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05752c.htm
and this
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03592a.htm

This is a difficult subject.

There is a tradition in Catholicism which states that "faith without works is dead", I think the idea is that faith is what SETS UP your mind so that you are ABLE to perform works in God's service, and then charity is that virtue by which you actually do perform these works; but if you have faith (i.e. you have a clear conviction in your intellect that there is a God, and so on) and yet fail to do what you know by faith you ought to do, you are said to have "lifeless" or "dead" faith, the quote being, "faith without works is dead" from the Book of James. Luther changed this up a bit for the Protestants, having a dislike for the Book of James and the idea of works generally. Luther and Protestants in general would disagree with your post. They would say that "faith" is meritorious in itself, without works. In Catholicism faith is a supernatural gift (i.e. it's not just you assenting to propositions with your reasoning faculties, it's like a divine light that shines on your mind that gives you a clear picture of God's existence and how he is involved in creation. Faith itself is a gift from God) but that gift of faith alone is not enough for salvation, whereas in the Protestant conception of Faith, "faith alone" (sola fide), is sufficient for salvation.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241465]

more Kierkegaard

What is formlessness? It is the repealed passionate distinction between form and content, which therefore, in contrast to insanity and stupidity, may contain truth, but the truth it contains can never be essentially true. Formlessness will be able to expand in extensity, comprehensively , attacking on all fronts, in contrast to essential content which has the inadequate limitation of its firmness, if you will, intensively present in self -deepening. The ubiquity of formlessness in a passionless, reflective age finds expression, besides in the frivolous dallying between the most diverse people, in its opposite: a ruling penchant and desire to act ‘for the sake of principle’. Principium, as the word indicates, is what is primary, that is, the substantial, the idea in the unopened form of feeling and enthusiasm which, with its inner drive, impels the individual forward. The passionless person lacks this; for him the principle becomes something external for which he is willing to do both this and that and also the opposite. The life of the passionless person is not a principle that reveals itself and unfolds; on the contrary, his inner life is something quick, continually on the move and chasing after something to do ‘for the sake of principle’. Principle in this sense becomes an unnatural something or other, an abstraction just like the public. And although the public is a something so monstrous that even all nations assembled at one time, and even all souls in eternity, are not so numerous as the public, yet everyone including the drunken sailor has a public – and that is also how it is with principle. It is some monstrous something or other from which even the most insignificant person can tease out a most insignificant action and think himself immensely important. A harmless nobody suddenly becomes a hero ‘for the sake of principle’, and the effect of the situation is basically just as comical as if a man – or everyone, if it became the fashion – were to go about wearing a cap with a sixty-foot peak. If a man ‘for the sake of principle’ were to have a little button sewn on the breast pocket of his coat, that trivial and perfectly reasonable precaution would suddenly acquire tremendous importance – not improbably, a society would be founded on the strength of it.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241476]

>>5241453
sorry, there is no "Book of James", I meant the "Epistle of James".

What is superficiality and its characteristic propensity, ‘the urge to show off’? Superficiality is the repealed passionate distinction between hiddenness and revelation. It is a revelation of emptiness, which in scope does have the trickster’s deceptive advantage over essential revelation and its essential homogeneity of depth; superficiality offers a multifarious or omnifarious appearance. And the show -off tendency is the self-infatuation of a conceited reflection. The concealment of the inner life is given no time for anything essential to be deposited that can become revealed, but is much too quickly muddied up; and by way of compensation selfish reflection tries its best to draw all eyes towards this motley show, as does the commercial counsellor’s consort, Mrs Waller.

What is flirtation? It is the annulled passionate distinction between essentially loving and being essentially dissolute. Neither the essential lover nor the essential debauchee is guilty of flirting, which only trifles with possibility. Thus flirtation is the indulgence to dare brush with evil and a dispensation from realizing the good. Acting for the sake of principle is therefore also to flirt, because it contorts moral action into an abstraction. But flirtation has the advantage in scope , for one can flirt with all sorts of things while only one girl can be loved essentially ; and, if understood in the proper erotic sense (even if desire in the time of moral lapse blinds the fickle person), all adding is a subtracting, and the more one adds the more one subtracts.

What does it mean to reason things out? It is the repealed passionate disjunction between subjectivity and objectivity . As abstract thought, reasoning is not deep enough dialectically; as belief and conviction, it lacks full-blooded individuality. But reasoning does have the spurious advantage when it comes to scope, for a thinker can comprehend his field of knowledge, a man can have an opinion about something pertaining to a particular discipline, hold a conviction on the strength of a particular life-view, but the person who reasons things out can reason about all things possible.

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what happened to the subject field?

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241491]

Anonymity has, in our time, a far more pregnant significance than is perhaps realized; it has almost epigrammatic significance. Not only do people write anonymously, they write anonymously in their own name, indeed speak anonymously. Just as an author puts his whole soul into his style, so a person essentially puts his personality into his speech, though this must be understood with the limiting exception pointed out by Claudius in a similar situation when he said that when you charm a book the spirit emerges – unless there is no spirit there. Nowadays it is possible actually to be speaking with people, and to be forced to admit that what they say is exceedingly sensible, and yet the conversation leaves the impression that one has been speaking with an anonym. The same person can say the most contradictory things, can coolly utter something that, coming from him, is the most bitter satire upon his own life. The remark itself is very sensible, would go over very well at a stockholders’ meeting as part of a discussion fabricating some resolution – much as, in an actual factory, paper is made out of rags. But the sum-total of all these many remarks does not amount to personal human discourse such as can be carried on by even the most simpleminded man able to talk of very little but who nevertheless does speak.

The commercial counsellor’s consort Mrs Waller’s comment on the demonic is very true, and yet as she says it she gives one precisely the impression of being an anonymity, a barrel-organ, a musical box. The remarks become so objective, their range so all-encompassing, that in the end it is altogether incidental who says it, which in terms of speaking humanly corresponds exactly to acting for the sake of principle. And just as the public is a pure abstraction, so in the end will it be with human speech – there will no longer be someone speaking but an objective reflection will gradually impart an atmospheric something, an abstract sound that will render human speech redundant, just as machines make workers redundant. In Germany there are even manuals for lovers, so it will probably end with lovers sitting and speaking anonymously to each other. There are manuals on everything, and being educated will in general soon consist in being word-perfect in a greater or smaller compilation of observations from such manuals, excellence being measured by one’s skill in picking out the particular one, just as the compositor picks out letters.

[Anonymous No.5241507]

>>5238837
I think my dick just retreated all the way back into my stomach - thanks anon.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241512]

For the present age admittedly has the advantage in scope but not in intensity , which is why it is true of the present age as in the novel that our men of excellence belong to an older generation, while among the younger ones there is more general competence eminence. If power and enthusiasm take over in individuals, it may become evident that really the present age stands, or has been standing, in its own light. Just as a woman when she puts on far too much finery fails to look chic because that requires tasteful proportion, so the present age seems to have decked itself out too much in the multifariousness of reflection to give harmonious balance a chance. But one must always bear in mind that reflection in, or by, itself is not something pernicious, that on the contrary its thorough working through is the condition of more intensive action.

The conditions for inspired action are these: first comes the immediate inspiration ; then the time for prudence, which because immediate inspiration calculates nothing, by virtue of its calculating ingenuity takes on an appearance of superiority; and then finally, the strongest and most intensive enthusiasm , which, following upon prudence , therefore sees what the most prudent thing to do is, but disdains to do it, and for that very reason acquires the intensity of infinite enthusiasm . This most intensive enthusiasm will for the time being be completely misunderstood, and the question is whether it can ever be popular – that is, whether prudence will ever be so much a presupposition in the average man as to lose, in his eyes, its seductive charm, so that he will not only be able to be equal to it but also in the most intensive enthusiasm, so to speak, waste it, content with the satisfaction of infinite enthusiasm; for just because it goes against prudence, action arising from such enthusiasm will never be obvious.

[Jude Thaddeus !SX.Jipgvhc No.5241536]

Young people today can fairly often be heard saying wise things. That youth speaks you will hear sure enough on closer listening. For what a wise man doesn’t fail to see – that everything he says is about himself (that’s how selfish he is!) – the young man indeed fails to see (that’s how enthusiastic he is!). What the wise man does, namely understand everything as being relevant to himself, always taking himself to be a case in point, the young man fails to do; he makes the demand but fails to implicate himself – or indeed, the demands he makes being what they are, he implicates hardly anyone else either. You would think it was a drunken deity speaking, from his free manner with people, from the way his head swims in a fantasy of supposedly being able to grab for himself the monster product of generations of inhumanly exacted exertion ; least of all would you believe it was an individual human being speaking. Clearly, he certainly speaks in the name of the age concerning the age’s demands, but this is precisely the contradiction that ought to put a stop to the youngster’s fairy-tale savagery; for no one, no fictional pirate captain, was ever so cruel as the demands of the age in the mouth of a young man; not even Elagabalus was that terrible to the ostriches, for he never had more killed than he could eat.

[Anonymous No.5241650]

speaking of, does anyone have a bigger template? these squares are too tiny.

[Anonymous No.5241663]

>>5241650
I just did it manually on paint (i.e. moved one side of the box and filled in the lines by copy-pasting)

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>>5241304
the descriptions of the bullfights are key to the book

[Anonymous No.5242011]

>>5241650

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>>5242011
"bigger"

[Anonymous No.5242597]

>>5241650

Fucking classic. Cap now.

[Anonymous No.5243166]

>>5238932
Funny, I just finished that and got the same impression.

[Anonymous No.5243178]

>expects anything from Evola

This is what plebeian "hero worship" does to you.

[Anonymous No.5243263]

>>5241689
Who DOESN'T fear the samurai? They're badass.

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[Anonymous No.5243345]

>>5237625
makes me want to read this even more

[Anonymous No.5243616]

>>5238883
but that's fantastic

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[Anonymous No.5243643]

>>5243640
did you give up during the benjy section?
you cannot be faulted

[Anonymous No.5243644]

>>5243643
No, I read the whole thing.

Didn't enjoy it all that much, but I can appreciate Faulkner's incredible skill. I liked Quentin's chapter the best. Fuck Jason, the cunt.

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>>5238931
Have a fairly decent understanding of Marxism (plus a little Hegel) before jumping in. Many seem to misconstrue it as a simple anti-consumerist, anti-mass media pamphlet in the same vain as something Chomsky might write and jump in only to find out that Debord is working with far more complex ideas.

[Anonymous No.5243796]

>>5243643
Not him, but I went through it pretty slowly, trying to derive some meaning from it. I'm currently on chapter 3
>>5243644
I agree about Quentin's chapter thus far, Jason as a narrator pisses me off

[Anonymous No.5244231]

>>5241650

kek

[Anonymous No.5244246]

>>5243651
The sewer sequence in that book is perfect

[Anonymous No.5244422]

>>5237998
mersault doesn't die retard

[Anonymous No.5244477]

>>5241650
This is why i browse this board.

[Anonymous No.5244562]

[Anonymous No.5244661]

>>5244246
As is the nosejob and the whole of Mondaugen's story.

[Anonymous No.5244732]

>>5243643
I think you mean he cannot be faulked

[Anonymous No.5244747]

>>5243796
Jason really is a fucking prick.

I wish he could have heard more about Caddie. She ties everything together, but we never really get to know her.

[Anonymous No.5244757]

>>5237625
You got laughs, thoughts, universe and god?

how about you guys just stick to the whole one picture in one frame concept to keep stuff funny and fresh

[Anonymous No.5246004]

>>5237633

Mersault was just a whiny faggot, like the french version of Holden Caulfield.

[Anonymous No.5247922]

[Anonymous No.5247927]

>>5247922
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.5247929]

>>5247927
Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Ooo ooo ooo.

[Anonymous No.5247933]

>>5247929
hehe

[Anonymous No.5247984]

[Anonymous No.5250185]

I fucking loved moby-dick and the movie is one of my favorite movies. I heard that it's a lot more vague in the book than it is in the movie about which things are in his head.

damnit now I feel compelled to read this.
>>5240852
hey what's the name of the painting in the upper right of the middle? is it by rene margritte?

[Anonymous No.5251139]

And it's fucking great.

[Anonymous No.5251172]

>>5251139
Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.5251176]

>>5244246
>>5244661
Pretty much all of V. was perfect imo

[Anonymous No.5251184]

>>5251176
Nah. Chapter three dragged. As did the Florence chapter.

[Anonymous No.5251353]

>>5251172

>fucking great

[Anonymous No.5251484]

>>5251139
Is that Borges in final panel?

Is Lem comparable?

[Anonymous No.5251496]

>>5251484

Yes to both. Check him out.

[Anonymous No.5251553]

>>5246004
He didnt really complain, he just really disconnected from reality.

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