WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ABORTION

[Peenelope No.5215800]

http://metamodernistmanifesto.com/

TELL ME THIS IS **BULL** PLZ

[Anonymous No.5215809]

Summer is almost over. Summer is almost over. Summer is almost over.

[Anonymous No.5215811]

>>5215809
Summer is a state of mind, for some people.

[Anonymous No.5215823]

>>5215800

http://www.metamodernism.org/

What about this bullshit?

[Peenelope No.5215832]

SUMMER IS NO MORE JIM FRANCO WRITING NONSENSE CHRIST

[Anonymous No.5215836]

>>5215800
>CREATE A FREE WEBSITE OR BLOG AT WORDPRESS.COM. | THE TONAL THEME.
The best part.

[Peenelope No.5215838]

Franco > Shia for bullshit festos apparently

[Anonymous No.5215851]

>>5215800
I don't understand the hate for this guy. If he wants to start a movement, let him. Who the fuck cares?

[Peenelope No.5215857]

Don't hate him I hate celebs going academic--such bs

THIS THING MAKES NO SENSE

[Anonymous No.5215859]

BOW DOWN TO YOUR NEW LITERARY KING

[Peenelope No.5215863]

EFF THIS FESTO RLLY

[Peenelope No.5215879]

"Mistrust of the epistemological authority of writing is mainly caused by the overwhelming actualities of contemporary living, which render all interpretations of 'reality' arbitrary"

AND shoot me

[Anonymous No.5215894]

you're not very literate if you think it makes no sense. it's vague but it's not directionless.

it would be helpful if he distinguished specifically between metamodernism and postmodernism or metamodernism and new sincerity.

right now it sounds like new sincerity of the DFW variety.

[Anonymous No.5215900]

>>5215894
You're an idiot.

[Peenelope No.5215907]

"Vague but directed" is OK then? for literate types?

hmm

[Anonymous No.5215917]

>>5215900
hi Shia

[Anonymous No.5215919]

cute. looks like he zizek'ed a wiki entry on debord's society of the spectacle

[Anonymous No.5215930]

don't see Debord in this. Francos talking about a multiplicity of realities, not one allconsuming "spectacle"

[Anonymous No.5215944]

>>5215800
nice dubs

[Anonymous No.5215948]

"Noninterpretive text" also seems nondebordian FWIW

[Peenelope No.5215953]

GARBAGE PERIOD

[Anonymous No.5215963]

>post-modernism means the opposite of modernism
lmao how could you make such a basic error

[Anonymous No.5215966]

>>5215930
guess you didn't read debord. quit posting fuckwit.

[Anonymous No.5215983]

God I hate you idiot lit types. Debord: "Everything that was directly lived has moved away into a representation." Franco says the opposite--everything that was a representation is now a reality. But yeah I guess the opposite of Debord is also Debord FML. &U.

[Anonymous No.5215990]

sorry but noone here has read debord obv

[Anonymous No.5215993]

>>5215966 here:

The very first sentence of debord's sots:
>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
>immense accumulation of spectacles
(read: not "one big spectacle")

>The spectacle is not a collection of images, but a social relation among people, mediated by images.
(are you implying that social relations are singular or are you just retarded?)

....

>"The spectator’s consciousness, imprisoned in a flattened universe, bound by the screen of the spectacle behind which his life has been deported, knows only the fictional speakers who unilaterally surround him with their commodities and the politics of their commodities. The spectacle, in its entirety, is his “mirror image.” Here the stage is set with the false exit of generalized autism."

[Anonymous No.5215998]

>>5215963
yeah and you'd be surprised at how often people make this one

[Anonymous No.5216018]

"All of life" would seem to suggest belief in a singularity of reality, no? BTW "accumulation" is a singular here. Christ.

[Anonymous No.5216024]

You then follow a sentence that begins "THE SPECTACLE" with an argument about non-singularity. Google "definite article." Christ.

[Anonymous No.5216026]

>>5215800
Anyone else notice that 80% percent of the page space on the manifesto is blank and that this is a normal user created wordpress website? No, just me? Well okay then.

[Peenelope No.5216034]

GUYS POINT IS JIM FRANCO KNOWS NONE OF THIS

http://metamodernistmanifesto.com/ IS AN ABORTION

[Anonymous No.5216037]

>>5216024
>missing the point
>>5216018
>not understanding intersubjectivity

it's like you haven't read the requisite works to get what debord's talking about, pal

[Anonymous No.5216045]

And Shia LaBeef wrote his "manifesto" on some rando blog. Point?

[Anonymous No.5216054]

haha, reminds me of letterism, of the stunts and things they did

[Anonymous No.5216055]

calling social relations intersubjectivity does not make you less a tard pal

[Anonymous No.5216075]

>>5215966
Looks like your statement is applicable to you, faggot.

[Anonymous No.5216116]

The Lettrists were anti-semantic--all form. I don't see anything in Franco's manifesto suggesting a lack of content, in fact he says "metamodernist works are nevertheless works of verbal art created from language, and therefore carriers of meanings and attitudes." I know you guy hate Franco but Debord was a Lettrist and would not have endorsed any works that were "carriers of meanings and attitudes."

[Anonymous No.5216180]

>celebrities writing manifestos
shit Baudrillard missed out

[Anonymous No.5216263]

yup

[Anonymous No.5216296]

Googled "Franco" and "metamodernism" and wonder if this "manifesto" is connected to this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2701012/James-Franco-wears-ridiculous-facial-fuzz-screening-Child-Of-God-New-York.html

[Anonymous No.5216310]

I miss the days when the only celebrities writing manifestos were terrorists

Franco ruined a good trend here

[Anonymous No.5216327]

Leave Franco alone!

[Anonymous No.5216335]

>>5215800
someone's been reading Debord and Baudrillard at the same time...

[Anonymous No.5216337]

>>5215800
>>5215823

This is Shia Labeouf i think

[Anonymous No.5216346]

Jim Franco needs to pixellate The TheBeef quick

[Anonymous No.5216461]

>We seem to be swallowed by a technetronic reality that defies human moral understanding and obeys machine-generated guidelines for action. For instance, computers conduct our wars and project our future ecological and demographic environment.

No, computers do not. Human beings do those things, and they use computers to carry out ends which are still, fundamentally, human. You can't just say, "oh, wow, technology! guess I don't have to worry about being a moral actor any more."
Lazy, fucking piece of shit.

>Each individual in our time is more a knight errant engaged in a bewildering quest of the self in an atomized society than a person routinely engaged in a battle with a cohesive society characterized by solidly established and clearly recognizable manners and values.

Too translate: "I have become a self-absorbed and completely terrible shitstain. Me and my friends demand a form of literature that reflects our narcissistic personalities and inability to look outside our own backyards. Also, I want you to pander to my inability to tell the difference between fiction and reality because, omigosh, did you see that clickbait article on Facebook about how robots are the future? Omigosh."

[Burdybee No.5217900]

The "manifesto" turns out to be no more than a hoax made by conceptual poetry troll Seth Abramson, who is a bit of a laughing stock in the poetry world for his lame attempts at self-promotion using famous (or infamous) people.

He's the same guy who got called out for his pathetic attempt to exploit Elliot Rodger's killing spree for his own publicity. Meh.

http://flavorwire.com/459354/rap-genius-and-bad-poetry-its-always-too-soon-to-grab-personal-attention-after-a-tragedy

[Anonymous No.5218069]

>>5215800

J.Franco is just getting on the same level of a meme.

And it's fucking hilarious.

[Anonymous No.5218127]

>>5215800
Can someone summarize this for me?

[Anonymous No.5218154]

>>5218127
no interpretation

writing that is taken exactly for what it is. however, the writing itself encompasses some of its own interpretations.

idfk

[Anonymous No.5218210]

>>5217900
That figures.
Some fake ass bullshit wordpress trolling there

[Anonymous No.5218266]

>>5217900

The same Seth Abramson? lmfao

"Seth Abramson grabbed her. Threw her to the ground. Pulled off her pants. Ripped off her panties. Mounted her. Seth Abramson’s young pink balls rubbed painfully against her hairy twat. O Lord, he thought. O Lord. O Lord. And finally Seth Abramson collapsed in a young boy’s cumless climax. She pressed charges. Seth Abramson was arrested. But when they examined her they found no traces of semen or forced entry. And when they examined Seth Abramson it all made sense: he had a house-mouse cock"

http://htmlgiant.com/author-spotlight/seth-abramsons-using-me/

[Anonymous No.5218273]

>>5215800
>http://metamodernistmanifesto.com/

Is this saying all opinions are equally valid?

What a stupid opinion.

[Anonymous No.5218283]

>>5218273
Yet it's the one collectively held by the majority of this board. take a look around; all opinions are subjective statements, and through a lack of objectivity they all operate on equal footing.

[Anonymous No.5218297]

>

[Anonymous No.5218299]

>>5218283

That's just plain old fashioned postmodernism. Move along, nothing to see here...

[Anonymous No.5218327]

I think James Franco is aware being a pseudo-intellectual mongoloid, he's sacrificing his image to mirror the tumblr-reddit generation of faggots, though I guess he didn't really like being a celebrity to begin with.

[Anonymous No.5218339]

>>5218327
>he's sacrificing his image to mirror the tumblr-reddit generation of faggots

[Anonymous No.5218340]

whoever wrote this waffle doesn't seem to have a clue what metamodernism actually is:

http://www.metamodernism.com/2010/07/15/what-is-metamodernism/

[Anonymous No.5218853]

>>5216024
>>5216055
>>5216075

>fictional speakers who unilaterally surround him with their commodities and the politics of their commodities. The spectacle, in its entirety, is his “mirror image.”
"the" spectacle is fragmented, one but one immense multiplicity

[The Knight of Mirrors !!s2lmlI8P60f No.5218874]

An interesting writing

The question of authorship and intellectual laziness is an important one though, and though they attempt to dodge it with self-aware trickery and manipulation, it does not change my views on Mssrs. Franco and LaBeuof: they are charlatans posing as philosophers and have contributed nothing via criticism or content to the artistic world.

"Filtered"

[Jude !SX.Jipgvhc No.5218881]

>>5218340
>http://www.metamodernism.com/2010/07/15/what-is-metamodernism/

>The ecosystem is severely disrupted, the financial system is increasingly uncontrollable, and the geopolitical structure has recently begun to appear as unstable as it has always been uneven. This triple crisis infuses doubt and inspires reflection about our basic assumptions, as much as inflaming cultural debates and provoking dogmatic entrenchments. History, it seems, is moving rapidly beyond its all too hastily proclaimed end.

another movement that cares about what's happening today, about irrelevant shitlike "the financial system", instead of eternal truths.

SWERVE

[Anonymous No.5218904]

>>5218881

actually the desire for eternal truths is one of the main tenets of metamodernism

[Jude !SX.Jipgvhc No.5218922]

>>5218904
But m8, why do they open by talking about such ephemeral things as financial systems?

[Anonymous No.5218934]

>>5218922

Because it's about seeking universal truth, despite nihilistic chaos like capitalism. It's all about oscillation between poles like this.

[Jude !SX.Jipgvhc No.5218946]

>>5218934
>Because it's about seeking universal truth, despite nihilistic chaos like capitalism.

But what does "nihilistic chaos like capitalism" have to do with anything? As soon as you go looking for eternal truths, it doesn't really matter what kind of society you are living in, does it?

[Anonymous No.5218970]

>>5218946

it depends how much you have to sell your soul for I suppose

[Anonymous No.5219752]

Im no franco fan but this manifesto summarizes 4Chan RITE

[Anonymous No.5219768]

Metamodernism is a bullshit hoax created by some white dudes in Europe. Shia LaBeouf being the face of metamodernism is perfect, as plagiarism is a well known postmodern writing technique and Shia's use of it proves metamodernism is a joke. I have no idea why Franco, who can get attention in ways that make $, needs to play into this nonsense. That said, this garbage is at least better written than Shia's garbage.

[Anonymous No.5219950]

>>5219768

You sound like the bullshitter here m8. It's obvious Franco doesn't have anything to do with this crap, and metamodernism is a quite real thing in philosophy. Look it up.

[Anonymous No.5219958]

>trying to out post pomo
It simply can't be done, sincerity be damned

[Anonymous No.5220001]

What are you, some sort of metamodernist pimp? This is garbage philosophy from a bunch of losers and celebrities.

[Anonymous No.5220008]

none of these people have anything to do with this
you think shia laBEEF writes manifestoes?? fuck nope

[Anonymous No.5220111]

>>5215800
Fuck you lit, for ruining my day. I've never been more sorry to have clicked on a link. What a stupid twat. He really tried to pull out his "big boy words" didn't he? All that effort, and it still reads like a 12 year old's angsty piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5220135]

caught btw sage/bump here

HOW METAMODERNIST

[Anonymous No.5220140]

can anybody explain to me wat all the fuss is about? Slash wat's the deal here?

[Anonymous No.5220144]

jesus fuck this is prolly a hoax by the same guy from the shia laboef one

[Anonymous No.5220152]

this crap
has francos bad poetry
all over it

[Anonymous No.5220154]

>>5220140

Loser postmodern poet writes crap manifesto, sticks Franco's name on, trolls 4chan. That's the deal.

[Anonymous No.5220167]

Did Franco really write this??? holy fuck if so

[Anonymous No.5220171]

>>5220154

[Anonymous No.5220178]

[Anonymous No.5220187]

lulz

[Anonymous No.5220196]

>>5216116
>The Lettrists were anti-semantic

OY VEY!

[Anonymous No.5220244]

>>5220196

[Anonymous No.5220250]

>>5220154
Franco's postmodern now? EXPLAIN

[Anonymous No.5220277]

franco is like the only metamodern thing i can think of
hes a plagiarist like the guy from transformers

[Anonymous No.5220555]

bump for JAMES FRANCO IS DREAMY

[Anonymous No.5220577]

some turd tweeted about this yesterday
got lots of attention and still not buying it bruh

[Anonymous No.5220592]

>>5220577

A twitter search shows that nobody has ever tweeted about this

ATTENTION WHORE SPAMMER ALERT

[Anonymous No.5220603]

this is a garbage link and no one should read it. i know that because like the OP i DID see it on twitter four days ago and hated every fucking second of that experience

[Anonymous No.5220609]

sage for FRANCO IS A WHORE

[Anonymous No.5220832]

>>5220592
>>5220603
you guys care way too much about this.

[Anonymous No.5220857]

Did James Franco kill art?
I mean, it's over, right?

[Anonymous No.5222496]

Is everyone here retarded?

This isn't James Franco's.
The original was made by Shia which was a copy from a writer.
This one is just for the keks, someone simply put Jame's name on it.

[Anonymous No.5222529]

"Contemporary reality cannot be made credible. We have reached a cultural phase in which the metaphysical ambitions of classicalists and modernists alike—each reaching for a grand synthesis about the human condition—is not tenable. A crisis in the perception of reality has taken place, one which is directly attributable to the enormous expansion of technological and scientific knowledge, which has now made it impossible for any single individual to have a complete perception of the world, or even to believe that she has one."

A lot of this is actually pretty decent, but it's not like continentals and critical theorists haven't been saying this shit for 60 years.

[Anonymous No.5222588]

>>5218339
basedfranco/10

[Anonymous No.5222594]

>>5222529
>A lot of this is actually pretty decent, but it's not like continentals and critical theorists haven't been saying this shit for 60 years.

This. Then again these kind of shitstorms are good cases-in-point.

[Anonymous No.5222627]

>>5218339

Welp, he reached dawkins levels of faggotry

[Anonymous No.5222647]

>>5222627
What are talking about? That's probably the greatest thing he has ever said. You, the /lit/ Jesus brigade, and the invisible sky fascist have all been banished back to >>>/x/.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.5222649]

>>5222627
>Tips foreskin

But seriously, is someone tape recording this guy while he's high? How tactless. That's the kind of talk for anonymous internet discussions, not B rated actors

[Anonymous No.5223207]

>>5215823

Did he plagiarise that too?

[Anonymous No.5223217]

>>5218339
that's a simon amstell quote, not franco

[Anonymous No.5223220]

>>5223217
Actually, Simon Amstell was quoting James Franco.

[Anonymous No.5223222]

>>5222529
Yeah, it sounds profound because he has to reinvent terms and concepts we've been dealing with for a while already.

[Anonymous No.5223223]

>>5222647
>You, the /lit/ Jesus brigade, and the invisible sky fascist have all been banished back to >>>/x/.

The /lit/ Jesus Brigade and the Invisible Sky Fascist

A novel by J. K. Rowling

[Anonymous No.5223234]

sometimes i fantasize about a young james franco

[Anonymous No.5223319]

>>5223220
touche

what a totally metamodernist moment that was

[Anonymous No.5223915]

>>5223223
great idea bro

[Anonymous No.5223924]

>>5223207
yes

[Anonymous No.5223937]

>>5223924

[Anonymous No.5223940]

We've already established that "manifesto" is a hoax written by a postmodern poetry troll trying to discredit metamodernism. Quit bumping this thread for no reason other than to spam everybody senseless with it. Nobody cares.

Someone block plz

[Anonymous No.5223963]

>>5223940

[Anonymous No.5224009]

>>5223940

[Anonymous No.5224024]

I knew kids who went to school with Franco and they said he was a cloud man.

[Anonymous No.5224034]

this is all fascinating, really...
[leaves thread]

[Anonymous No.5224041]

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/12/heres_a_bad_poem_james_franco_wrote_about_los_angeles.php

that is all.

[Anonymous No.5224642]

Okay, I just finished this beast. And I'm gonna say it: I think it's fantastic. Seriously, this is probably the single best thing Franco has ever done. Seriously. Does anyone else who's read through this agree?

[Anonymous No.5224651]

explain

[Anonymous No.5224662]

Well, I'd rather see what others say first.