/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.5210036]

Is there any author more photogenic than Hemingway?

[Anonymous No.5210039]

>>5210036
Yes.

[Anonymous No.5210040]

>>5210036
mayakovsky

[Anonymous No.5210044]

>>5210040
Shaved his hair because of outbreaks of lice and ringworm during the Civil War and sold his hair for food... ;_;

[Anonymous No.5210052]

>>5210044
still the very sensual man.

[Anonymous No.5210054]

>that fat lard
>photogenic
lel

[Anonymous No.5210057]

>>5210036
Who's the woman with him?

[Anonymous No.5210062]

>>5210054
>this skinny cunt
I bet you don't even lift. Hemingway is sexy as fuck, fat or not.

[Anonymous No.5210064]

>>5210036

[Anonymous No.5210069]

Has porn of this ever been made?

[Anonymous No.5210085]

[Anonymous No.5210089]

>>5210085
fml how did i save the thumbnail instead of the pic

[Anonymous No.5210137]

>>5210085
What a charming smile.

[Anonymous No.5210157]

>>5210085
what is this, a picture for cockroaches?

[Anonymous No.5210236]

>>5210085
>>5210157

[Anonymous No.5210282]

>>5210036
obviously

[Anonymous No.5210292]

>>5210282
So obviously.

I'd gladly offer my virgin asshole to Mishima.

[Anonymous No.5210299]

What a qt

[Anonymous No.5210305]

>>5210282
>>5210292
I always see him posted, but have never read anything by Mishima. If there was one book by him to read, which is it?

[Anonymous No.5210311]

>>5210305
The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea

[Anonymous No.5210323]

>>5210305
sun and steel

[Anonymous No.5210333]

Alpha as fuck

[Anonymous No.5210363]

>>5210305
death in midsummer since it has variety. avoid patriotism. maybe check out the sound of waves.

you'll either love or hate this dude depending on if you're a self-absorbed brat or not. had a serious peter pan complex. consider this. one of many reasons he probably killed himself was to be immortalized with a youthful appearance rather than grow old. that and he didn't give the average Japanese enough credit and had no idea they would laugh and roll their eyes at him on the stage he made for himself. funny how very few Japanese take mishima seriously but he has a growing popularity in the west. like how ayn rand is taken seriously in the u.s.a. but isn't relevant anywhere else in the world.

[Anonymous No.5210396]

oh baby

[Anonymous No.5210418]

>>5210036
is that his 1st, 2nd, or 3rd wife?

[Anonymous No.5210424]

>>5210305
never ever read anything by that stupid jap fuck

[Anonymous No.5210446]

Bukowski

[Anonymous No.5210464]

>>5210418

Yes.

[Anonymous No.5210633]

>>5210363
>avoid patriotism
Why? It was the first of Mishimas books I read and I thought it was beautiful and a pretty good starting point.
Not trying to invalidate your point, just curious.

[Anonymous No.5210684]

>>5210633
because the protagonist and his wife were idiotic. that story more than the others in the set has mishima's philosophy smeared all over it. that's also why I suggest the sound of waves. it's a nice chill story unlike temple of the golden pavilion, sailor who fell, spring snow or whatever other book with a snotty self indulgent protagonist which is 99% of them.

I think life is the highest art. living is important. mishima felt that living wasn't worth anything if you had nothing to die for. he felt that art was more important than life since it lasted longer. that's a sick and sad joke to me. this ideal is the same quixotic idiocy that caused the seppuku scene in patriotism. I'm sure some people jerk off to this kind of devotion to whatever shit floats around in their head. to me it is madness and it's repulsive in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.5210710]

>>5210684
Now this is ironic

[Anonymous No.5210725]

>>5210633
hey if you like it don't let me stand in your way. you might like it for reasons I've not considered. but yeah don't get me started as far as asking me my opinions.

and there are things worth dying for. probably in the area of saving lives.

try "the silent cry" by kenzaburo oe. that book encapsulates my feelings on this perfectly.

[Anonymous No.5210769]

>>5210069
Lemon party

[Anonymous No.5210770]

>>5210684
Which merit of "living" do you think is so important?
And of course, everybodys got their own "meaning of life" and so on. You shouldnt trash a book because it does not fit into your sense of right and wrong. You know, you can like an book and still disagree with the message its trying to convey.

[Anonymous No.5210812]

>>5210036
Hemingway and James Joyce were drinking buddies in Paris. Joyce was thin and bespectacled; Hemingway was tall and strapping. When they went out Joyce would get drunk, pick a fight with a bigger guy in the bar and then hide behind Hemingway and yell, "Deal with him, Hemingway. Deal with him."

[Anonymous No.5210816]

>>5210812

"After she studied at the Amherst Academy for seven years in her youth, she spent a short time at Mount Holyoke Female Seminary before returning to her family's house in Amherst. Considered an eccentric by the locals, she became known for her penchant for white clothing and her reluctance to greet guests or, later in life, even leave her room. Most of her friendships were therefore carried out by correspondence." Emily Dickinson

[Anonymous No.5210886]

>>5210770
i agree. but i can still not like a book when i don't like the book.

people never know what kind of good they can exert on the world. even if they don't do it themselves they might influence someone else who might. even if they don't care people change. people have no idea who they're going to be ten years from now. feelings change and people surprise themselves when they sit back and wonder how they got where they are. it's all ripples.

part of a good poem.

I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.

death is important too. dying a good death is important like living a good life. i felt both mishima's death...and the protag's death in patriotism were both tragedies. in deaths like those...dying is easy. it's living that's hard. had the protag lived with all that shit floating around in his head THAT would be one hell of a story worth telling.

had mishima lived maybe he could've gotten psych help. japan unfortunately has quite a few suicide authors. some are good. some aren't. my opinions. just ignore if it pisses you off.

[Anonymous No.5210980]

>>5210886
>just ignore if it pisses you off.
Oh no, it doesnt piss me off, I rather enjoy it.
>the protag's death in patriotism w[as a] traged[y]. in deaths like those...dying is easy.
I wouldnt say that the protagonists death was an easy one. He was pretty happy with his life, had a
good job, a good wife and so on. And you shouldnt forget the pain and fear he must have felt. Its not
that easy to cut your own stomach open to kill yourself.
And of course, his death was a tragedy. But his death wasnt a death without purpose. By killing
himself, he protected both his friends and his maxim. You could argue that he could have solved the
conflict in another way, but would that made him happy? Since there is no being objectively right, one
must do what one thinks is the right thing to do. Im not saying that suicide is something that should
be encouraged, I actually think it is a pretty gutless way of dealing with ones problems, but I also think
that, if somebody really thinks that suicide is the only way to solve the problem once and for all
(Im not talking about some suicidal teens here, who cant even fathom the nearly endless possibilities
of life), it is their right to do so.
Im not trying to make you like Patriotism, just habving a discussion here.

[Anonymous No.5212072]

He trumps all

[Anonymous No.5212080]

>>5210333
sup brah

[Anonymous No.5212082]

Hallo

[Anonymous No.5213600]

>>5210980
hey, man. sorry for the late reply. i had to leave yesterday.

again my opinion. but the protagonist's inability to reason any kind of moral action beyond ritual suicide was incredibly frustrating to me. i thought it was the ultimate escape from a moral obligation to try and explore other options besides choosing one side or the other. because the best stories in literature are about dilemmas where neither option is good, yet we either choose or create a third option and live on because that's life. death is not always immediate as the protag's situation with friends and country but fundamentally i believe we are dynamic creatures and even if the protag were to go in hiding he would do more good to come back after the mess was made and try to clean up as best as he could. that would do more for both friends and country. that would be shameful to him if he hid for fear. but not so if he had a moral obligation to do what's best when all options seem terrible.

on top of this you have his wife who is all about this suicide and wants to join in. i have a fiance. i would absolutely hate it if she were like that. then she would not be her own person and would have an existence contingent on my own. that's crazy talk.