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>hanging out with some college students
>they keep complaining about how much they were having to study due to the testing period
>i get curious because i never went to college
>ask them about their studying habits
>the most dedicated one was studying about 3 hours per day
>mfw

How long do you read/study per day, /lit/?

I'm basically on a perpetual reading mode. I only stop to go to work, take a dump and eat. And sometimes shitpost here.

>> No.5188201

>>5188189
Why are you conflating reading and studying?

>> No.5188203

i study music theory because im trying to learn how to write guitar compositions for an hour a day. i read for 2 hours a day, one in the afternoon after work and one before bed. i also sometimes study the subjects of my upcoming classes at uni for an hour or so. on a heavy day probably about 5 hours total.

>> No.5188212

>>5188203
>needing to study 3 hours a day to get an A
top retard

>> No.5188231

>>5188189
Well I read a couple hours per day average, but that's something I do for fun. Most of the time I don't study, but right now I'm doing about 5 hours per day. Studying is not something I do for fun.

>> No.5188239

>>5188189
Studying for exams and reading in your spare time is not the same thing, sorry.

Studying a subject for an exam means constant re-reading and memorizing. You often have to take a certain issue or branch of discussion further than your personal interests would otherwise take you.

This means that, even if you do study something that interests you, let's say literature, you will eventually be bored by certain aspects of the topic you're studying. You may like being assigned Don Quixote for study, but you might get extremely bored by also studying 17th century events in Spain (this is just an example, if you enjoy history, that's fine, please cool your fedoras.)

And we're not just talking normal "oh this topic is getting less entertaining" kind of boring, we're talking mind numbing desperation kind of boring because you basically have to carry on studying anyway, since it's for an exam.
Whenever you take a dump between your DFW and your fucking Stirner, you're basically taking a pause from something that interests you. Not always so when studying.

>> No.5188250

>>5188239
>studying something you're not interested in

You are the death of the university

Math major here, 2 hours a day per class is somewhat normal if they're challenging topics.

>> No.5188259

>>5188250
>This means that, even if you do study something that interests you, let's say literature, you will eventually be bored by certain aspects of the topic you're studying.

You didn't read my post, did you?

>> No.5188261

>>5188250
Yes because every class one takes to get their undergrad is something they're passionate about. It's like you've never even been in a university.

>> No.5188265

Exam studying is fucking misery. If I read/study what I want, I can just sit there for eight hours and go nuts. It's fun.

When I have to reverse engineer the professor's faggoty opinions about some specific niche aspect of the subject, and then use that to rip information from the text, while also covering enough bases just in case I'm missing the mark, and then practicing bullshit essays I have no feeling for so that I can write them on the spot without blanking, that's not even reading. It's just godawful shit.

>> No.5188273

>>5188261
I do go to university. The only places I know with required non-core classes are state schools

>> No.5188274

Time is relative. Spending 12 hours writing an essay on amphetamine salts is equivalent to spending 120 hours writing the same essay sober.

>> No.5188277

>>5188250
My roommate was a double major in math and physics. Yeah, some days he worked like you're saying, but it was absolutely not the norm. Pretty much only like the in the couple weeks before finals. He finished with a 3.8 GPA. You must just be retarded.

>> No.5188278

>>5188212
3hrs/day is pretty standard if you are stem and want a good gpa

>> No.5188282

>>5188250
>actually believing you are interested in mathematics
>not knowing you only think you are interested in it because it offers you a particular status you were interested in obtaining when you decided to apply for college

oh tommy

>> No.5188287

Ok /lit/. I'm starting college in a month. I'll be taking a general biology course, 2 English courses and a psychology course.

How many hours do you think I should study per day?

>> No.5188288

>>5188239
>Whenever you take a dump between your DFW and your fucking Stirner, you're basically taking a pause from something that interests you. Not always so when studying.

Pretty much this.

>> No.5188292

>>5188273
Every University has required general education classes for bachelor's degrees. It's the defining trait of a bachelor's. You can't honestly say that you've enjoyed every class you've taken.

>> No.5188294

The difference between them and you is that you are interested in what you're doing. To them, it's a chore.

And also don't ask me why they feel it's a chore it's because space age entertainment such as this very websight swallowed their brains whole

>> No.5188296

>>5188287

At least an hour per course, is the general minimum for doing well...

>> No.5188297

Well I'm on summer break right now, but I'm trying to do a few hours of Yale OCW Philosophy a week, and I'm trying to get through a book per week. I also do a fair bit of writing. I'd say an average of 3-4 hours per day just on those things. Then there's playing piano and browsing /r/musictheory and /lit/ to add about 3 more hours.

>> No.5188299

>>5188296

Ok, thanks.

>> No.5188300

>>5188287
Biology is just memorization so it depends on you really. Psychology too. At least at the freshman level.

English is just reading and formulating thoughts unless I took a shitty freshman class.

>>5188282
not him but you're an idiot

>> No.5188301

>>5188287
One, maybe two max. This is a light schedule. 13 credit hours I'm guessing?

>> No.5188310

>>5188300

Cheers.

>> No.5188321

>>5188310
What uni?
Also >>5188301 is correct, you'll have a lot of free time on your hands most likely.

>> No.5188325

The trick to doing well at university is actually trying to understand what you are studying/ I don't just mean memorise the arguments or the derivations, I mean actually understanding it, going deeper into the material than just what you do in class. You will most likely find then that you actually enjoy doing the work and understand it better than 99% of the class, and if you don't you are probably doing the wrong thing.

>> No.5188327

>>5188321

UBC

>> No.5188358

>>5188189
College-wise I read for a few hours in the morning, making sure I understand the shit we went over last class. Then I at night I read for a few hours, making sure I understand the shit we'll be going over next class. If it amounts to 3hrs a day then so be it, but I don't make it a point to study that long. I've noticed that a lot of students do that for nothing more than bragging points. Like "look at how hard I study bro! A whole 3 hours straight!"

For work related things like my writing and design I pretty much treat studying like a job, doing it all day from 10am to 10pm.

>> No.5188374

>>5188358

>3 hours straight

Doing it wrong

>45 minutes
>5 minute break
>45 minutes
>5 minutes break
>45 minutes
>5 minute break

Your brain doesn't absorb information as well after 45 minutes.

>> No.5188385

>>5188374
If you really have a shitty fucking work ethic and you need to do sustained work for an entire weekend or something, I find 45 minutes on, 30 minutes of vidya/anime/whatever really good. Seems like too much, but it's better than slow-as-fuck 2 hours of work then 8 hours of FUCK EVERYTHING.

>> No.5188393

>>5188385

True

>> No.5188413

>>5188212
tell that to any medicine student

>> No.5188483

>>5188413
Not him but obviously his post was about most basic degrees, not advanced graduate level medicine.

>> No.5188490

>>5188483
I was talking about any degree at any level.

>> No.5188504

>>5188273
>The only places I know with required non-core classes are state schools

You've never been to college, huh

>> No.5188509

>>5188490
I got my 33rd degree in Freemasonry just by jacking off in a sarcophagus!

>> No.5188526

>>5188490
Lol well then I guess you are an idiot if you think a PhD in neuroscience requires less than three hours a day of work outside of class.

>> No.5188560

>>5188526
Where did you get your PHD in neuroscience?

>> No.5188571

>>5188509
-Kanye West

>> No.5188583

>>5188560
I haven't, but my (future) brother in law is getting his at Washington University in St. Louis. Between studying and lab work he works far more than 3 hours per day.

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5188597

>>5188526
>there are phds in neuroscience RIGHT NOW who spend less than 100 hours a day studying

Don't think for a minute those PhDs put in more work or are any better than your average graduate student, they just sucked more professor dicks in their time.

>> No.5188598

>>5188583
So you admit you have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.5188611

I have never studied por an exam things just come naturally to me. Hell i even sleep on class.

>> No.5188626

>>5188611
edgy

>> No.5188628

>>5188597
Why is she wearing glasses and dress gloves to inject green nail polish into her necklace?

>> No.5188632

>>5188597
>>5188598
And both of you are obviously experts in this matter. Just because your humanities degree didn't require intense effort doesn't mean all degrees are that way. I sympathize, I a bachelor's and am working on my master's in English; for a while I tried to equate myself with all my friends and colleagues who were in advanced stem programs, but it's just not true (at least in terms of workload.)

>> No.5188637

>>5188632
Have* fucking phone.

>> No.5188640

>>5188611
Congratulations on all your achievements.

You may be talented at some things but the ones who strike lose out in life are the ones who never learn to work hard at anything.

>> No.5188644

>>5188189
It's not so much about the time you spend studying as it is about your methods. I just take rigorous notes on every lecture in outline form and read them later in their newly condensed format.

>> No.5188647

>>5188632
>I a bachelor's
lol retard

>> No.5188652

>>5188597
>>5188628
>it's DNA and it's blue! needs more green, clearly!

>> No.5188656

>>5188597
Also, I'm not saying they're better, at all. I think humanities and stem both have very important roles to play. Just saying that science does require more studying.

>> No.5188664

>>5188611
You either have photographic memory or have fallen for the jew ploy that is murkan ejakation like a good goy.

>> No.5188667

>>5188637
>>5188647
>retard

>> No.5188677

>>5188656
Actually when I wrote >>5188597 I was just referring to STEM graduates who later get PhDs. Are you called a graduate when you're a STEM? I don't know if there's a difference in the American system.

However, I honestly don't believe the PhD students are significantly above average neither in science nor in the humanities. The ones who get PhDs are the ones who know the people who are on the board of approval, it's as simple as that.

>> No.5188690

>ever discussing education and related activities on the internet

get out while you still can, nothing good can come of this.

>> No.5188694

>>5188690
>this post
every thread

>> No.5188703

>>5188677
Oh politics definitely plays a part, but at most high-tier schools, if you don't have an impressive CV you aren't getting in anywhere. To get into an MFA program, your portfolio needs to be good. To get into a STEM PhD program, your GPA and lab experience better be good.

Also, if I'm going to have a brain operation, I'm damn sure not going to have a surgeon who underperformed and just sucked dicks to get a degree.

>> No.5188712

>>5188677
And yes, anything after a bachelor's is considered graduate level.

>> No.5188745

>>5188212
There's no reason to be proud of adeptness, only achievements.

>> No.5188751

>>5188745
Adepts lack adaptation skills usually.

>> No.5188753

15 minutes a day five days a week was enough to get me through A-Levels. Probably need an hour a day five days a week for my degree.

>> No.5188781

>>5188250
Do you think I have a choice in all my classes as a law student?
Try telling a teacher that you aren't interested in Contract Law and that you shouldn't have to study it, and see how he reacts.

Fuck you, I'm the life of the university you romantic idiot.

>> No.5188957

>>5188781
What's your bachelors in? Are you T14? What'd you get on your LSAT? What was your undergrad UGPA? I'm a prospective law student doing BA shit right now.

>> No.5188959

>>5188598
STEM PhD students regularly spend over 60 hours a week working on their research. You people who think they spend a few hours a day are completely out of touch with reality. It would take you over a decade to finish you PhD working a few hours a day, if the uni didn't kick you out first.

>> No.5188967

>>5188957
Enjoy crippling debt and unemployment, shitlord.

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>>5188967
Quality post, thanks for your insight Slate.

>> No.5190730

>>5188201
If your subject is easy for you, it is the same thing

>> No.5190748

>>5188274
Ths is a good post

>> No.5190777

>>5188297
If you arent working, then you arent reading enough. Unless youre reading a slew of 500-pagers back to back then you should be able to work through two or three a week without breaking a sweat

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5190781

>>5188201
But they oughtn't to be different

>> No.5190782

>>5190777
>you should be able to work through two or three a week without breaking a sweat

What makes you say that? How many hours a day do you spend reading in order to accomplish that?

>> No.5190786

>>5188959

LOL. STEM people like to say that, but they are full of shit.

You probably spend all of 10 hours a week actually doing research.

Face it, humanities research always trumps science research. We actually DO research, i.e. spend time reading and researching. You jackasses spend your time tweaking data tables in Excel and pretending you are a scientist.

>> No.5190794

i don't think i ever studied in university except right before exams, and even then i would give up after like an hour and play xbox or watch a movie in the commons with random dudes or go to freebirds for a burrito.

>> No.5190803

>>5190786
>tweaking data tables in Excel

Please, we use R. Excel is for finance-idiots.

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>>5190786

>> No.5190830

>>5190782
About three hours a day. Im working or I would do more. If that is really your schedule, then I doubt it would be much of a stretch to go for two a week, even if you really take time to savor the writing

>> No.5190862

>>5188277
Or perhaps each major wasn't half as demading as other anon's major. And you also have to take into account that it takes much more to get a satisfying understandng of something than to get a 3.8 GPA. You can't just compare people and universities like that. I agree with you that the workload he mentioned is non-standard, but it's not surprising for someone who wants to really get into what he's doing.

>> No.5190871

>>5190786
Math major here. Not every STEM needs data tables.

Also
>thinking dealing with data is not proper research

Do you also think that an history major looking for primary sources is wasting his time ?

>> No.5190877

>>5190777
Not all books are of the same length, and not all can be powered through in a few hours.

>> No.5190902

>>5188327
swag

>> No.5190911

>>5190730
>>5190781
If you only read things concerning the subject that might be the case, but if you, say read fiction books for pleasure while study history I don't see how you'd lump the two together or why you should. You can have more than one interest in life.