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Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:20:47 2014 No.5174568 [DELETED]

I tried /adv/ but I'm trying /lit/ since I'm going for a philosophy major, and eventually graduate studies. I want to know how introverts get into college.

Basically my question is:
Is there a way to get into a prestigious college like Reed without having to do extracurriculars like being part of student leadership or volunteering to help. Honestly, I hate doing all these things. I don't care about them at all. I'd want to just sit in my room reading all day, watching movies, playing video games, and getting amazing grades that way. Why the fuck do I have to get amazing grades AND do all this extra shit on the side which in no way reflects my compassionate heart but is just a lie. A lie to get me into the school I want to get into.

For instance, could I get into a college like Reed by solely being in a chess club?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:22:38 2014 No.5174577 File: 130 KB, 600x750, Aquinas-Birdhouse-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5174568 I'm going to community college though, and I want to transfer btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:24:52 2014 No.5174583 >>5174568 This has nothing to do with being an introvert. Also yes you can, but it's obviously more difficult. People opt to have extra curricular to help their chances, not because they have some undying love for doing extra shit outside of class.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:27:10 2014 No.5174596 >>5174583 I don't into being around people though. I can't handle going to the student meetings and or going to the volunteer events, and handing out flyers. It has everything to do with being introverted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:29:28 2014 No.5174603 >>5174596 What? No. You're confusing introversion for social anxiety or whatever disorder is keeping you from being around people against your own benefit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:30:07 2014 No.5174606 >>5174603 But it drains my energy being with people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:35:55 2014 No.5174630 >>5174606 Whatever, it's neither here nor there. They'll probably accept you. Though I'd make it a priority to get over whatever social issues you may or may not have.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:39:09 2014 No.5174636

>>5174630
Well you're probably right about having social anxiety. My heart pumps when thinking about going into a social situation and I sweat. Are there ways for me to do things that will increase my chances of getting in without doing extracurricular that require a lot of social interaction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:40:21 2014 No.5174640 >>5174568 Everybody has to things they don't enjoy. Extra curricular activities show you are willing and able to do things. It doesn't matter if you like them, do them anyways. Otherwise you will get nowhere in life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:40:50 2014 No.5174645 >>5174568 If you're introverted, why are you communicating with people right now ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:41:28 2014 No.5174647 >>5174645 I'm talking to you face to face?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:41:57 2014 No.5174649 >>5174647 Did I say that ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:42:42 2014 No.5174650 >>5174649 No I'm asking you a question. Am I talking to you face to face?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:45:05 2014 No.5174657 >>5174650 Before we go on, can you define 1) "face to face" 2) "talking"

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:46:09 2014 No.5174660
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>>5174645
It doesn't work like that you fucking retard. People with SA usually find it easier to communicate online (let alone an anonymous image board) because you can think about what you say before you say it, and there's less of a chance you'll make an idiot of yourself.

It's a good thing you don't have SA, friend, because you look like a pretty big idiot right now.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:47:01 2014 No.5174663

>>5174657
>Before we go on, can you define
1) "face to face"
2) "talking"Let's do this another time. I have to go to this shitty volunteer event so I can increase my chances of getting into a college.

When I come back hopefully there will be some nice tips.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:50:19 2014 No.5174677 If you think you might have legit social anxiety see a doctor. Stop making excuses.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:51:21 2014 No.5174680

>>5174660
What's wrong with being a big idiot ?

>>5174663
So you don't want to continue with your assertion that only face-to-face communication sets off your anxiety, and that you're still introverted even when attempting to reach out to others and cyber-socialise ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 20:52:15 2014 No.5174685 >>5174636 An individual sport, but seeing as you want to sit inside all day...

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:01:16 2014 No.5174712

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion_and_introversion#Introversion

>Introversion is "the state of or tendency toward being wholly or predominantly concerned with and interested in one's own mental life".
>Introversion is not the same thing as shyness but it is often mistaken as such by extroverts. Introverts prefer solitary to social activities, but do not fear social encounters like shy people do.

OP, if you were really introverted, you would be looking into self help resources and information on the internet instead of indirectly talking to other people.
The whole point of introversion is that you prefer to work by yourself.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:04:59 2014 No.5174724

>>5174660
You are conflating social anxiety with introversion.
If you had actually read my original post, you'd see that I used the word "introverted", and not the phrase "socially anxious".
Your argument is predicated on the assumption that I was arguing that he didn't have SA, which I never did.
For someone who browses /lit/, your reading comprehension sure does need a bit of work, perhaps that is why you are here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:07:24 2014 No.5174731 >tfw socially anxious extravert Life is funny.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:08:42 2014 No.5174733 What makes you think you would be happy in college? There are people there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:12:06 2014 No.5174746 >>5174660 >thinking social anxiety and introversion are the exact same thing nigguh you dumb as fuck.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:12:43 2014 No.5174749

>compassionate heart
>just wants to sit in a room and read all day

nope.

There's nothing special about you, you're just another antisocial faggot who thinks they're better than everyone. You're not the kind of person who succeeds in academia. I'd start looking for wfh data entry jobs if i were you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:17:30 2014 No.5174760 >>5174568 What are you good at? Just do whatever you're good at and do it better than all the other pretentious fuckers who are in clubs and stuff.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:37:02 2014 No.5174832

Reed isn't prestigious. It's also filled with fucks like you (I was one). I managed to get in with a 3.67 GPA and a 2240 SAT and no extracurricular. Anyway, please don't major in philosophy unless your family is rich and you're just doing it for fun. Philosophy sucks. Reed sucks. The liberal arts are a sham.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:43:13 2014 No.5174853 >>5174832 everything is a sham Anon. just strive to pursue whichever discipline you enjoy most and try to excel at it by contributing to its advancement and being as clear as you can in your scope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:49:09 2014 No.5174878 File: 2.52 MB, 4128x2322, 1406080068199.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5174832 Op here. Guys this is the worst thing. Im at the volunteer event

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:53:27 2014 No.5174901

>>5174568
>nd eventually graduate studies.
You think that. Most people think that if they are not majoring in philosophy for something else, i.e. it is not autotelic. If you do not have a 3.9+ GPA, and establish a rapport with every philosophy professor, and go to conferences, and try to present a conferences, then you will not get accepted to a graduate program...well a good one.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 21:58:36 2014 No.5174924

>>5174901
actually I heard that you only need everything besides the conferences. Which I can do. The conferences come after you get into graduate school and when you are looking for a position. No problem getting into graduate school. I'm a genius in the area of philosophy. I just need help getting into Reed.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:01:35 2014 No.5174936

>>5174924
>The conferences come after you get into graduate school and when you are looking for a position
Yeah, you're an idiot. Most of my friends that got into top philosophy programs presented at conferences during their undergraduate career. You're not even in college yet, you naive twat.

>I'm a genius in the area of philosophy.
Jesus christ, I feel bad for the people at Reed if you get accepted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:02:52 2014 No.5174943 >>5174936 Stay mad

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:02:56 2014 No.5174944

I hear ya, OP. I got a 4.0 GPA and 2400 SAT, but because I haven't done some kind of fill-in-the-box community service, my school won't give me a scholarship (and my friend, who is a fill-in-the-boxes idiot, did).

Yeah, I'm pissed. :-p

I'm looking into doing some sort of community service now. I'm not SA, I'm just extremely quiet and prefer observing people to interacting with them. My best ideas so far have been:

1. Working with animals. There's a hippotherapy stable (clinic?) not too far, and I can volunteer to feed and exercise the horses. Working at a pet shelter is also a possibility.

2. Tutoring. Depending on your academics, volunteering to help remedial learners or ESL learners could be fun. You'd work with people on a more 1 - 1 basis rather than having to deal with all the social garbage that goes on in most extra-curricular activities.

Dunno if you're religious at all, but churches/synagogues/mosques/temples/whatever often have volunteer opportunities that aren't too taxing. Also check at the local library or community center. Sometimes they have programs like "Read with the Dog." No joke.

Hope that helps and that you make it. Take care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:05:10 2014 No.5174958 >>5174943 top kek, you schoolboy. This is a 18+ website. Don't worry, while I slave away at my phd thesis, you will continue to delude yourself into thinking you will succeed as a philosophy major. It is kind of cute...but also pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:06:12 2014 No.5174965 >>5174944 Thanks bro. You're a God

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:07:15 2014 No.5174970 >>5174958 Dude are you the same guy that doesnt even know shit about book 2 humes treatise? Lmao. Stay pleb

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:08:13 2014 No.5174975

>>5174724
No you're confusing social anxiety for introversion.
Being introverted doesn't mean that you're a hermit, only that you enjoy smaller groups to larger groups.
An example would be that given the option to go to a large party with over 200 people attending at a party hall or a small party with friends at one of their houses the introvert would choose the latter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:08:29 2014 No.5174978 >>5174970 What?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:09:06 2014 No.5174983 >>5174978 Nvm

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:10:22 2014 No.5174987 >>5174731 I think most people on this site are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:10:33 2014 No.5174991 >>5174978 Dude its ok if im a genius. No need to be mad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:13:49 2014 No.5175009 >>5174936 Depends on europe or america. I know people who got into top grad programs without going to conferences

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:15:29 2014 No.5175021 >>5174991 If you say so. Then could you elucidate on why some philosophers believe that mathematical objects can be represented as Fregean abstracts? It is actually quite simple, but maybe you can give it some nuance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:22:13 2014 No.5175047 File: 3.31 MB, 4128x2322, 1406082112591.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5175021 Jesus christ bro im at a volunteer event. I can shipost but I cant seriously philosophize. Im a genius but not a fucking God

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:23:28 2014 No.5175053

>>5175021
Hmm, maybe because they're correct, maybe because they're incorrect.

This philosophy shit is easy.

(I assume I could actually give answering this question a stab if it wasn't shrouded in technical language. You philosophers and your love of confusing the layman with your jargon...some of us are on to you)(Thomas Carlyle and Ralph Waldo Emerson are among us)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:25:11 2014 No.5175061 >>5175053 Pathetic...

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:31:36 2014 No.5175079

>>5175061
I'm still waiting for you to reconstruct your question into it's form that could be analyzed by your average 26000 word vocabulary having person.(as opposed to the form suited for 25100 word vocabulary having "philosophers". What would Wittgenstein think of your actions?)

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:31:57 2014 No.5175084

>>5175061
This.

You and >>5175047 should fuck off back to /b/ or /a/ or whatever cesspool you came crawling out of you silly cunts, I wish I could curb stomp you guys but I'm content with you knowing your parents are internally ashamed of you.. I mean, who posts anime pictures and visits /adv/??

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:35:38 2014 No.5175102 >>5175084 I do. Stay mad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:38:43 2014 No.5175114 >>5174636 >Well you're probably right about having social anxiety. My heart pumps when thinking about going into a social situation and I sweat. Try losing your virginity

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:40:20 2014 No.5175119 >>5175114 At least be original

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:41:56 2014 No.5175125 >>5175119 I'm serious though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:42:53 2014 No.5175128 >>5175125 I just dont care about girls at this point in my life. I only have academic goals.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:43:39 2014 No.5175130

>>5175102
>stay mad
I can't wait for you to finish your degree (if you make it) with 40k+ debt and ultimately realize that maybe just maybe I might of got somewhere if I didn't follow what all the cool internet kids were doing like meme spouting and enrolling in lib arts, and that this all amounts to nothing as you did not once think of creating something entirely original.. it is this realization of why 80% of us (myself included) are losers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:44:53 2014 No.5175139 >>5175128 you poor soul

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:45:21 2014 No.5175144 >>5175130 But im going to grad school

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:46:05 2014 No.5175148 >>5174636 adderall

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:46:41 2014 No.5175152 >>5175139 But why?

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:49:11 2014 No.5175162

>>5174568
People who do a lot of things are usually good at a lot of things. Would you rather have a person who is good at thing A, or a person who is good at Thing A and Thing B. Even if Thing B isnt as relevant, it's not going to be a negative.

The fact that you chose to hide in your room and play video games shows that you don't have a drive to use the knowledge you're attaining in school to improve the community. Which implies youre a lazy leech. Go do something - you're not supposed to be afraid of social interaction, learn to get over it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:49:22 2014 No.5175163

>>5175144
40k + grad school tuition fees.... (IF you get accepted)

you are clearly underaged given that you have no idea how money works, not to mention the /adv/ browsing

enjoy your debt sentence, before you kick the chair, make sure you make a thread on here so no other weeaboo-anime-watching-LoL-playing-faggot that summer browses makes the same mistake

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:49:37 2014 No.5175166 >>5175144 Keep telling yourself that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:49:37 2014 No.5175167 >>5175152 bitches=life anon bitches=life it all boils down to bitches. why are you going to grad school to study hella hard and stack paper? to attract eloquent bitches. it's your driving life force. it's what makes you a male. booty, anon. booty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:52:41 2014 No.5175179 >>5175163 The only thing I do is philosophy. I eat and drink it like a fatty. No video games for me. I have goals. Anon. Goals. Habe du heard of them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:53:13 2014 No.5175183 >>5175152 because you are lying to yourself my friend. Unless you are in the 1% of the population that happens to be asexual, don't deny yourself of like the basic human instinct, if anything pussy is like a catalyst to academic greatness

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:53:55 2014 No.5175188 >>5175183 >>>/b/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:54:41 2014 No.5175190 >>5175167 No not for bitches. For myself. I want to do thus, not for bitches yo. >>5175163 God damnt. How many times do I have to repeat myself. Im a genius.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:57:43 2014 No.5175204

>>5175179
Brother if you told any notable philosopher dead or alive that you drink and eat philosophy like a fatty and simultaneously browse an advice board that is the crossroads for all the sorry-sacks of shits on a Japanese cartoon image board, they would simply laugh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:57:52 2014 No.5175208 >>5175179 >The only thing I do is philosophy. I eat and drink it like a fatty. Then answer my question about Fregean abstracts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:58:46 2014 No.5175216 >>5175190 >Im a genius. >browses 4chan now now anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:59:49 2014 No.5175223

>>5175079
>I'm still waiting for you to reconstruct your question into it's form that could be analyzed by your average 26000 word vocabulary having person.
What does this even mean? The question is straight-forward. If you find it abstruse, then you are retarded. Read up on Fregean abstracts, then you wont feel as retarded as you do now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:59:50 2014 No.5175224 >>5175204 Have you heard of taking 50 minute breaks when you study for 2 hours intensely. Oh thats right. You are a pleb that studies and then doesnt remember shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 22:59:50 2014 No.5175225 >>5175188 says the fedora who doesn't care about girls

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:00:58 2014 No.5175232 >>5175190 If you were really a genius you would be renown and probably in Uni before you were 18.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:02:06 2014 No.5175235 >>5175224 what the fuck do study breaks have to do with my claim, I don't even "study", I work and read literature in my spare time

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:02:10 2014 No.5175236 >>5175232 If you really were a genius you would not be interested in philosophy or academia or Reed. Stop feeding the trolls, /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:02:12 2014 No.5175237 >>5175225 lel says the fedora neckbeard virgin obsessed with them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:02:48 2014 No.5175243 >>5175232 Thats not how genius works silly anon. This is why I made this thread. I have the genius. Just nit the extracurriculars

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:03:47 2014 No.5175248 Reed is for fags. Just read a lot of books

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:03:51 2014 No.5175249 >>5175190 >Im a genius. lol you're not even in college yet, just wait until you meet your class and see that your average

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:04:00 2014 No.5175250 >>5175237 I never said I was obsessed with them you silly fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:04:48 2014 No.5175254 >>5175235 im a neet who lives with my mom. Wh3n I read 2 hours of humes treatise for example I go on 4chan to shitpost

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:05:05 2014 No.5175255 sad that shitposting is killing this once great board

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:05:19 2014 No.5175256 >>5175190 its always about bitches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:05:21 2014 No.5175259 >>5175248 Reading is for fags. Just go to Reed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:05:57 2014 No.5175264 >>5175259 - typical reed undergraduate

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:08:33 2014 No.5175277 File: 9 KB, 235x306, slavic hair loss man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5175255 i fack you mather

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:13:48 2014 No.5175307 >>5175255 >once great board l o l

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:17:16 2014 No.5175319 >>5174568 >reed >prestigious I knew a guy who got into Reed having done literally nothing but Academic Team and pot in high school. I think it was the weed that got him in.

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:17:30 2014 No.5175320

>>5175264
Seriously tho. Reed kid from earlier. Reed is a worthwhile experience if you want to become a pothead, an alcoholic or have sex with manic pixie dream girls (and tons of gays too if you prefer boys). If you want to become a philosopher tho then I would recommend going somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 23:21:00 2014 No.5175332 File: 49 KB, 495x345, Reading-to-Dogs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5174944 >Read with the Dog Holy fuck this is too cute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 02:29:27 2014 No.5175882 File: 139 KB, 960x640, 1404799686459.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5175255 >>5175277 lol i love you guys

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 03:41:40 2014 No.5176053 >>5174568 L was such a sick character. Why'd you have to do it Ren!? WHY!? MISA WASN'T EVEN THAT IMPORTANT TO THE PLOT!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 03:49:35 2014 No.5176066 File: 77 KB, 552x460, 1371932321996.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5176053 At least she killed herself

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 04:31:51 2014 No.5176152 >>5175332 Stay away from that Reading with the Dog shit. It's a CIA operation in which they're trying to teach dogs to speak as part of a super soldier program. The dogs are on DMT and sometimes go insane and bite you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 04:33:34 2014 No.5176156 I am the genius.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 04:36:19 2014 No.5176171 >>5175102 And you post outdated casual anime. Kill yourself. Post some moeshit atleast.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 05:30:16 2014 No.5176284 I go to Reed. My only extracurriculars were tennis and a semester's worth of volunteering at a local library. I don't think our admissions dept. cares much about that shit as long as you seem smart and serious about whatever you're interested in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 09:21:18 2014 No.5176713 >>5176066 Yeah, but I couldn't care about her sacrifice. I just wanted L to stop Light, not some little doll playing twerp.

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