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5146198 No.5146198 [Reply] [Original]

When you read, do you "hear" the words in your head as you read them?

>> No.5146201

>>5146198
No, I hear them in my heart.

>> No.5146205
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5146205

Yes, and I really don't understand any sort of alternative.

It's just my inner monologue...what do you guy NOT hear when you're reading?

It's such a confusing concept...

>> No.5146213

In a way. Brains are wierd man.

>> No.5146216

>>5146205
A few years ago I made an effort to stop hearing as I read/having an internal monologue. I can stop either one for a few minutes at a time now, and it seems to work pretty well.

>> No.5146222

>>5146198

No because I'm not a crazy person.

>> No.5146225

>>5146222
Subvocalization is a part of normal mental functioning. If you don't do it, you probably have something wrong with your brain.

>> No.5146230

>>5146205
Me too.

I've heard people talk about 'sub-vocalisation' as slowing down reading, but then Supposedly that involves actual physical movements of the tongue

>> No.5146231

>tfw learning to read properly is teaching me how to use my brain to be more intelligent in every situation


Why didn't anybody tell me this sooner? Its like how getting in shape makes you better in mental ways also.

>> No.5146589

>>5146231
what is reading "properly?"

>> No.5146615

>>5146589
Active imagining and re-imagining, technical discerning, identification of ambiguities and ironies, and at higher levels, counter-, or supplemental, argumentation - in other words, interpeting - rather than passive consuming,

>> No.5146618

>>5146205
Yes, it is the Bane of my existence.

>> No.5146624

>>5146205
Can you remove the actual voice while you read, but I don't think it goes away, you're just ignoring it.

>> No.5146625

>>5146615
>>5146230
>>5146225
>>5146205
P.S speed reading techniques are all about stripping away higher level cognitive responses to the text and rendering the lower level, the putting the words together level, so fast as to be imperceptible. They might help you do it the normal way faster, but any time spent speed reading is time wasted as far as reading for any kind of education goes. You're better off just reading more so you get faster naturally while also improving your other skills.

>> No.5146662

>>5146615
What ever happened to reading for enjoyment, for the prose?

>> No.5146667

>>5146662

But those things can heighten your enjoyment???

>> No.5146697

>>5146615
This
When I read I want to comprehend everything as much as possible. The moment I see myself speed reading because boredom I slow down and do it right

>> No.5146719

Do you all not see what is being described to you?

>> No.5146729

>>5146662
A lot of that, especially technical work, expose finer nuances in the writing, which increases the pleasure of the prose, the attachments you form with the characters, and, in a high-flown phrase, encourage the pleasure of learning, about philosophy, or human character, or whatever.

>> No.5146740

>>5146719
I am OCD. Not really but with reading I tend to be a perfectionist. I reread everything. A page will take me five minutes because I want to understand why the author put that statement on this page.

>> No.5146749

I'm deaf. I've figured out syllables by watching mouths move but that's all I know.

>> No.5146752

>>5146749
Do you read in sign language or?

>> No.5146758

>>5146719
I do, but I usually have to put in a lot of effort to make it happen. I'll re-read the same page a couple times because I realized I was just kind of reading word by word without getting any meaning.

>> No.5146765

>>5146749
> someone who is deaf reading books
> deaf
> reading books


You better get your books in braille troll

>> No.5146767

>>5146752
I want a book with drawings of hands instead of letters.

>> No.5146770

>>5146765
I'm not blind?

>> No.5146773

>>5146765
Do you think visualizing a book would be easier if you read in braille in a dark room? I've always been curious about that.

>> No.5146776

>>5146752
I read in English? The same language I'm writing in now. Signs are too imprecise for literature.

>> No.5146834

>>5146740
>>5146758
Oh. I see. I'm sorry.

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5146951

>>5146201
underrated

>> No.5147056

>>5146198

No, not really. I hear myself when I'm writing something, that's for sure. But when I read? No, that's an entirely different experience. I have to focus pretty hard to vocalize the words internally.

Those of you do the internal vocalization thing, do you consistently hear accents if they're indicated somehow or even made a point of?

>> No.5147060

>>5146198
no, I see words when people talk

>> No.5147074

>>5146776
I'm sorry if the question is retarded, but when you think do you think in signs or in english? Did your learn ASL before english?

>> No.5147093

I remember the first time I subvocalized, while reading some kids' book while I was a little kid, like 6 or something. I was like, "whoah, this is so cool, I can read without speaking!"

>> No.5147109

I want to stop hearing my voice.
I read so fucking slow, Jesus. At the same time, I feel I am only getting true enjoyment when reading slower, since I like to imagine all the subtle intonations and shit and without it text doesn't have flavor.
But I really want to read fucking faster. For studies and also for myself; I want to be able to read much more books in my spare time, since I have very little of it. My reading speed really discourages me from reading more expansive and dense stuff.

>> No.5147122

>>5147109
iktf

>> No.5147126

Only when I become conscious of my own thinking. Otherwise I think the thoughts but don't necessarily associate sounds with them.

>> No.5147194

No.

However, I love reading certain things aloud. I do not think I would have cherished Walden as much if I hadn't read the text aloud and let the pithy dicta resound and leave an impression on my soul.

>> No.5147219

>>5146198
Yes, sometimes in my voice; sometimes in others.

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5147279

>>5146749
Russell Harvard is that you?

>> No.5147284

Kinda, mostly with dialogue.

>> No.5147289

>>5146198
When l start reading, yes. After a while, i stop hearing the words and just visualize the scene. Im still reading them, but I just zone them out. Its kinda weird actually.

>> No.5147291

>>5147194
You're a deep motherfucker.

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5147307

>>5146198
yes, and i think that (especially with objects) sound is an important aspect of literature, so making any attempt not to would just lessen the experience.
>>5146740
i don't know anyone who actually has OCD who says they "are" OCD
>>5146615
you sound like an asshole
>>5147194
you are an asshole

>> No.5147988

>>5146198
not always

its like manually breathing, if something triggers it it starts

much better comprehension w/ subvocalisation (if thats the right word) but obviously slower

>> No.5147993

"When reading a novel, I mentally sound every word in the voice of modern day Renaissance man James Franco."

--James Franco

>> No.5147995

>>5146198

well it's like i'm reading in my mind but faster than I can speak, and I read more than I speak do when I do speak I speak as fast as I read - in my head - but in actuality it sounds like sfbusbfus fusbufbsuf sbfusfbusbf and causes me to mumble and mutter :)

>> No.5148002

>>5147307

>i don't know anyone who actually has OCD who says they "are" OCD

i'm bipolar when my mum doesn't do my laundry

>> No.5148009

>>5146198
Reading is a little like manually breathing. When you hear yourself think the words in your mind the entire course becomes irregular until you forget about it again.

>> No.5148034

>>5147993

*renascence

>> No.5148073

>>5146201
kek

>> No.5148105

>>5146198

sometimes, but only when i think about it. and then weird stuff happens where i notice one hand is slightly redder than the other and the fact that I am breathing and the taste in my mouth and the itch on my back and thinking about if my nose is crooked or my eyes blink correctly. All this stuff.

So i don't subvocalise if i can help it.

>> No.5148122

>>5148105

maybe see a doctor?

>> No.5148123

>>5148122

You know what he will prescribe for me?

Probably some relaxation.

>> No.5148124

>>5148123

he'll probably give you a handjob.

>> No.5148139

I'm currently reading all of Cormac McCarthy's books and I'm reading them with a stereotypical "Western" drawl (Think Sam Elliott). I only use voices if I really get in to a book. For some reason I couldn't help but read Walden in an upper class English accent, although I suspect Thoreau would have been very well spoken.

>> No.5148150

>>5148124

not if he has funny hands

>> No.5148152

Why are you guys so autistic? Maybe seek help?

>> No.5148155

>>5148152
You're the one hanging out with us.

>> No.5148545

>>5146198
I can read a lot faster if i dont but it is a lot more enjoyable if i do

>> No.5148554

Yes I hear them

that what am I, the hearer?

when "I read them" is itself a heard thought

>> No.5148717

>When you read, do you "hear" the words in your head as you read them?

No, of course not.
I read way too fast to verbalize anything. I thought it comes naturally if you read a lot.

>> No.5148751

>>5147109
If you want to become more proeficient at arguing/thinking and remember better what you read, it's more useful to put a lot of time into what you read and reflect carefully on it. Reading fast is only good for exposure, but good exposure is always a consequences of years of reading anyway. I'd say keep reading, and it'll get as fast as possible without losing on the content of what you read.

I think the real solution is to spend more time reading. Can't you find two hours a day ? That's a lot already.

>> No.5148772

no