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5139143 No.5139143 [Reply] [Original]

Here is a thread where I totally annihilated the so-called "great prose" of the great gatsby:
>>/lit/thread/S4876533#p4877342


I'm willing to have the debate again if anyone feels like it. I'm also planning to remove it from my bookshelf because I've matured past it.

>> No.5139152

>>5139143
Goddamn it brother you were right again.

>> No.5139171

>>5139143
>I want all my authors to write with exactly the same generic prose

>> No.5139191

>>5139143
>I proved this prose is bad
Ok buddy. Next why don't you prove why vanilla is the best flavor of ice-cream?

>> No.5139210

"Relentless beating heat" has great flow; you haven't an ear for prose, apparently.

I don't think the Great Gatsby is stylistically all that people say it is, but your criticisms are pretty silly.

>> No.5139245

>>5139143
You understand that the prose there is awkward because the story is being told, in the present, by Nick, and he is at that moment "confused".
Nick is off his A-game, which you would realize, if you even glanced at the content while dissecting the prose.

>> No.5139250

>>5139245
Sorry, there should be a question mark at the end of the first sentence, because I don't know if you do understand that.

>> No.5140500

good deal of anal pain in this thread, but it's all rhetoric and no logic.

Good luck next time /lit/, but my opinion will likely be unchallengable for many years to come.

>> No.5140513

>>5140500
You must feel pretty good about winning so many arguments on the internet.
2/10 would not rage

>> No.5140517

>>5139143
>I am 17 and I think I have made a great achievement by talking out of my ass and defeating people on the internet while over obsessing about what people on the internet say about a really great book that I despise because my angst tells me to hate anything I read in high school and my unjustified superiority complex that developed ironically in my life with zero accomplishment therefore I strut anonymously on the internet to other people just like me the idea that I won some worthless debate on something I have absolutely no knowledge of but that makes me interesting and cool because I know everything even though I make average grades in average classes at an average school and will be NEET tier my entire life

>> No.5140521

>I find it grossly unforgivable to pass up an opportunity like this to not put something clever or witty in there—like “as if he just did his taxes”. Lol something like that.

I think this whole post is one of the funniest things I have read on /lit/

>> No.5140527

The relentless beating autism was beginning to confuse me and I had a bad moment there before I realized that so far his critiques had been only surface level. He had discovered that the prose was written differently to how he would write it, and the shock had made him physically sick. I stared at him and then at the rest of the board, who had all made a parallel discovery less than an hour before—and it occurred to me that there was no difference men, in intelligence or race, so profound as the difference between the autistic and the well. The autist was so sick that he looked guilty, unforgivably guilty—as if he just got some poor girl with child.

>> No.5140528

Pedantic points on unaesthetic comma usage and suggesting that Fitzgerald passed up opportunities to make jokes. What a scathing review

>> No.5140530

>>5139143
You must be one sad son of a bitch.

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>>5140513
>>5140517
Why are you so upset? Is it because you can't defend why you think "Great Gats has AMUZING PROSE?"

Is it because you're just parrot squawking the opinions of someone not that much smarter than you are?

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>>5140530
>>5140528
>>5140527
>Can't refute his points
>Ad homeniem up the ying yang

American education er'body.

>> No.5140542

>>5140535
The relentless beating autism was beginning to confuse me and I had a bad moment there before I realized that so far nobody had actually cared about anything he had to say. He had discovered that we were all being mean to him, and the shock had made him physically sick. I stared at him and then at the rest of the board, who had all made a parallel discovery less than an hour before—and it occurred to me that there was no difference men, in intelligence or race, so profound as the difference between the autistic and the well. The autist was so sick that he looked guilty, unforgivably guilty—as if he just got some poor girl with child.

>> No.5140548

>>5140535
>Ad homeniem
None of what you're referring to would be considered an ad hominem.

University of Wikipedia er'body

>> No.5140553

>using contemporary view of prose and grammar to criticize a book published in 1925

You might as well be complaining about Chaucer and his lack of understandable words in "English".

>> No.5140556

>>5140532
>>5140535
Are you sad that Leo will never star in a movie made from one of your works?

Wait....

You DO write, don't you?

>> No.5140566

>>5139143
are you deaf? relentless beating heat sounds infinitely better than "the beating, relentless heat..." stopped reading there

>> No.5140572

>>5139143
I'll give you one thing OP, you sure know how to b8 'em.

>> No.5140594
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5140594

Holy smokes! So irrational hatred in this thread.

Do you guys think with one firing synapse at a time or something?

I have refuted the gatsby, in harvard style perfection, and you all just bray like asses.

This is how it must of felt like at a witch burning trial.

>Never question great murican novels!
>It's cover is awesome, therefore, amazing book!
>The prose is perfect! A lot of people on the internet seem to think so!
>Stopped reading right there!

I pity you guys, I really do.

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>>5140594
>Holy smokes! So much irrational hatred in this thread.
>Do you guys think with one synapse firing at a time or something?
>I have refuted the Gatsby, in Harvard style perfection, and you all just bray like jackasses.
>This is how it must have felt like at a witch burning trial.
Proofread and corrected for you.

>> No.5140615

>>5140594
the only thing you've proven to me is that you have an exceptionally poor ear. i didn't bother reading further. i think being an accountant might be more into your ballpark.

>> No.5140633

>>5140594
>This is how it must felt like at a witch burning trial
Endless shitposting is nothing like getting burned alive. You know as much about life as you do prose. The muses have not sung to you.

I challenge you to scan the passage's meter, because this is just about abstract ears now.

>> No.5140636

>>5140594
The relentless beating autism was beginning to confuse me and I had a bad moment there before I realized that so far nobody had found this guy funny. He had discovered that nobody was laughing at his jokes, and the shock had made him physically sick. I stared at him and then at the rest of the board, who had all made a parallel discovery less than an hour before—and it occurred to me that there was no difference men, in intelligence or race, so profound as the difference between the unfunny and the funny. The autist was so unfunny that he looked like a Big Momma's House film, unforgivably so—as if he had just made an abortion joke in a church.

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>>5140608
Be my editor? <3

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I wonder how people actually read the archived thread till the end.

I don't think you guys know the caliber of genius you're up against.

I have still yet to ascertain an opponent capable of talking on the same intellectual plain as me.

>> No.5140650

You missed Quentin by a few years

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>>5140644
I'm all for challenging people, but you've only contributed one thing. You're also not responding to anything anyone is saying. I'm just sad that this is bait and not someone actually trying to get /lit/ to set it up. You made a thread worse than any trip ever could, sigh.

>> No.5140755

>>5140527

eheheheh based

>> No.5140772

>>5140532
>being this edgy
>being this angsty
>being this 8th grade

lol

>> No.5140844

>>5140639
NO BUT HE FUCKED UP YOU DUMBFUCK HE'D BE A TERRIBLE EDITOR

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Can we just change this around and post our favorite passage instead?

Preferably something other than the final 2 paragraphs.

"As I went over to say good-by I saw that the expression of bewilderment had come back into Gatsby's face, as though a faint doubt had occurred to him as to the quality of his present happiness. Almost five years! There must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams – not through her own fault, but because of the colossal vitality of his illusion. It had gone beyond her, beyond everything. He had thrown himself into it with a creative passion, adding to it all the time, decking it out with every bright feather that drifted his way. No amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man will store up in his ghostly heart."

>> No.5141070

The Great Gatsby is a great read and frankly, I couldn't give less of a shit about your opinion on it.

Congratulations. You, high-schoolers being forced to read it, and like 3 other people don't like The Great Gatsby.

>> No.5141078

>>5139143
LMFAO i remember this thread

>> No.5141085

lmao dude reading that thread you got rekked inside it

>> No.5141093

>>/lit/thread/S4876533#p4877995

You try to make the first sentence of the book "better", but instead you make it grammatically incorrect sound like shit.

>> No.5141105

>>5141093
>grammatically incorrect sound like shit
and

>> No.5141111

>>5141093
>you make it grammatically incorrect sound like shit.
>grammatically incorrect sound like shit.
>incorrect sound like shit
>incorrect sound like

The irony.

>> No.5141115

>>5141111
I corrected it and you didn't tho

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>>5141115
You have egg on your face and you're still shameless in your megalomania.

You're not smart and you cannot think critically.

This song should mirror the malaise your ego must be feeling at this moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

>> No.5141142

>>5141139
dude you got rekked, go back to /v/

you don't know how semicolons work

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>>5141142
lol you really don't to let me, the superior anon, have the last word. Accept defeat, verily you are conquered, can you not see.

I pity you, I give you emotional alms.

>> No.5141153

>>5141139
I made a typo. You just don't know grammar.

>> No.5141303

Why is it that people who read for prose are the most retarded superficial readers?

>> No.5141313

>>5141303
Cus most of them are parrot squawkers or trolls.

>> No.5141465

>>5140535
>'his' points
>'his'

:^)

>> No.5141478

>>5140535
>ad hominiem
>ad hominiem
>hominiem