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5130047 No.5130047 [Reply] [Original]

I am reading Rimbaud in english for the first time after reading in his poems in french and in a portuguese translation.

I have to ask: what the fuck was this Oliver Bernard doing? The whole thing is ruined. The rhymes are gone, the cadence is gone, even part of the imagery is gone. Was his objective to make Rimbaud seem as dull as possible? Is there a decent english translation out there?

>> No.5130061

>>5130047

>reading anything but the Mason translation

you goof'd

>> No.5130921

>>5130047
Despite the terrible design, the translations here
http://webspace.webring.com/people/tl/lanouvelledecadence/rimpoems.html
are better IMO than those of O. Bernard.

But if you can read french, I don't see the point of reading Rimbaud in English.

Translations are always betrayals, especially in poetry

>> No.5131124 [DELETED] 

>>5130921
>But if you can read french, I don't see the point of reading Rimbaud in English.

If you can't read "insert language other than english here" i dont see the point of reading "famous writer" in english

>> No.5131139

>>5131124
?
that's stupid.

Just try to avoid translations every time it's possible. If it isn't, read a translation from the unknown to your mother tongue language. Dot.

>> No.5133214

>>5130921
>>5131139
I like reading translations because the best of the crop can shed more light over the original work.

>> No.5133226

>>5131139

I think it's smart to read french translations for books in english/italian/portuguese.

>> No.5133229

>>5133226

spanish, not english.

>> No.5133413

>>5133229
>Angles thinking they can write poetry.

>> No.5133505

>>5130061
This.

>> No.5133509

>>5130047
De que tradução em português você está falando? Nunca vi uma boa edição em português do Rimbaud.