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I'm reading Walter Kaufmann's "Tragedy and Philosophy" right now, and I'm amazed how little attention it seems to have gotten. He really tears into traditional understandings of tragedy as being all about hubris, but these readings still seem to be out there and thriving despite his (IMHO) pretty scathing critique. Are people just not aware of him or is there a good counterargument out there I should be reading?

Pic not really related, though Kaufmann seems like he's pretty respected as a Nietzsche scholar.

>> No.5085420

>>5085394
Kaufmann's works on existentialism in general are very good. He's overlooked because /lit/ believes that "reading the original texts" is better than commentary.

>> No.5085468

>>5085420
I understand why /lit/ isn't into him--but why haven't his arguments caught on in academia at all?

>> No.5085486

>>5085468
How do you mean, caught on in academia? Kaufmann is fairly well respected in existentialist thought. The problem is, in America at least, Analytic philosophy is the dominant force and they don't really care about existentialist thought

>> No.5085549

>>5085486
I guess I'm talking more about classical-literature academia than what happens in philosophy departments. Why didn't he succeed in changing the conventional understanding of, for example, hubris and hamartia and their role in tragedies as literary works?

>> No.5087551 [DELETED] 

>>5085549
I wish I could answer that. Maybe you could search jstor for essay's on Kaufmann

>> No.5087577

>>5085549
I wish I could answer that. Maybe you could search jstor for essays on Kaufmann.

>> No.5087590

>>5085549
Try:
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4346788?searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dwalter%2Bkaufmann%2Btragedy%26amp%3Bprq%3Dwalter%2Bkaufmann%26amp%3Bhp%3D25%26amp%3Bacc%3Doff%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff%26amp%3Bso%3Drel&resultItemClick=true&Search=yes&searchText=walter&searchText=kaufmann&searchText=tragedy&uid=3739560&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21104410005973
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40401426?searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dwalter%2Bkaufmann%2Btragedy%26amp%3Bprq%3Dwalter%2Bkaufmann%26amp%3Bhp%3D25%26amp%3Bacc%3Doff%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff%26amp%3Bso%3Drel&resultItemClick=true&Search=yes&searchText=walter&searchText=kaufmann&searchText=tragedy&uid=3739560&uid=2134&uid=2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21104410005973
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2307/708611?Search=yes&resultItemClick=true&searchText=walter&searchText=kaufmann&searchText=tragedy&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3Dwalter%2Bkaufmann%2Btragedy%26amp%3Bprq%3Dwalter%2Bkaufmann%26amp%3Bhp%3D25%26amp%3Bacc%3Doff%26amp%3Bwc%3Don%26amp%3Bfc%3Doff%26amp%3Bso%3Drel

etcetera, you're bound to find some good commentary

>> No.5087597

>>5087590
Dude, JSTOR has direct links in their files that are shorter. No need for that ugly URL.

>> No.5087622

>>5087597
Oh yeah, I didn't eliminate the uh, SQL entries, I just didn't look because I'm a lazy fuck

>> No.5087639

>>5087622
It's all good. In fact, it almost illustrates the career of Walter Kaufmann if you read the words in the link.

>> No.5087643

>>5087622
hey faggot are we ever playing chess?

>> No.5087660

>>5087643
I have work in less than two hours, so not today.

>> No.5089015

>>5085394
who's the leather face? between aristotle and kant