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5078044 No.5078044 [Reply] [Original]

So are all the philosophy threads here just navel gazing?

>> No.5078056

No, they are mostly inane useless questions like yours.

>> No.5078410

>>5078044
>using inherently anti-intellectual terminology
>>>/b/

>> No.5078451

>>5078044
>So [is] all ... philosophy ... just navel gazing?

Yes.

>> No.5079289

>>5078451
i admire the balls of people who invent an entire field of study and then convince a university to pay them to teach it. it keeps them off the streets. aside from that, worthless.

>> No.5079293

some of them are about poetry

>> No.5079299

>>5078044

So is all science just navel gazing?
So is all art just navel gazing?

>> No.5079300

This really depends on how narrowly you defined metaphysics. If you mean in the sense of something more real than the physical, then of course philosophy doesn't take it seriously any more; in this sense, metaphysical = supernatural

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5079309

>>5079289
>i admire...balls

>> No.5079312

>>5078044
Navel gazing is still better than piss contests, which is what they actually are.

>> No.5079354

>>5078044
Sometimes /lit/ does feel like a first year undergraduate philosophy class. It's embarrassing.

>> No.5080811

>>5079300
You cannot define metaphysics.

>> No.5082741

yep

>> No.5082757

They're so stuck up it's more like nasal gazing.

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5082952

>>5078044
more like Naval Gaying.

>> No.5082953

>>5080811
This really depends on how narrowly you defined metaphysics. If you mean in the sense of something more real than the physical, then of course philosophy doesn't take it seriously any more; in this sense, metaphysical = supernatural

>> No.5082966

In the Summer almost entirely, but in the winter there's some pretty good ones where people debate politely, elaborate on their arguments, etc. I've gotten a few good book recs for beginners.

>> No.5082999

In dutch gazing is staren/staring, naveling, because it looks like a little upsidedown turtleshelllifeboat. Apox on all philosophy but hegel & socrates. Maydayal leetsitendiii!!! You got a prolem brow? " ino i dono i don undastan i don undestan" suck on that mofos, i just went all 1=satan on your sassh. Ok i'll be quiet now like dave gahan in a time capsule in arthur canon doyle's kangaroo hindhead.#call me for a bad tyme:

>> No.5083002

>>5078044
People here honestly think academic bureaucrats are more important than engineers and scientists to society. So, you tell me.

>> No.5083032

>>5083002
Well in fact, artists are more important than engineers or scientists. Think about it, we could probably go without our computers if we needed to, and cell phones necessity is exaggerated by most people, but have you ever gone a day without listening to music or watching TV? I don't think anyone has, and a society without art is a dead society.

>> No.5083043

>>5083032
Yeah, a culturally booming society with minimal tech would be preferable to a technologically advanced society with no artistic output.

>> No.5083071

>>5083002
scientist are good specialist monkeys but they can't into social organisation and are too often idiots outside of their field.

>> No.5083074

>>5083032
>>5083043
People are themselves artists. I have yet to see evidence of a society without a culture. Artists are just as self-generating within a society as scientists, except technology allows the growth of human society while art is a means to pass your existence by. It is of course rather apparent that people on a literature board would value cathartic experiences and self reflection over discovery of the natural world.

>> No.5083082

>>5083074
Have you read The Birth of Tragedy?

>> No.5083098

>>5083082
This really depends on how narrowly you defined metaphysics. If you mean in the sense of something more real than the physical, then of course philosophy doesn't take it seriously any more; in this sense, metaphysical = supernatural

>> No.5083120

>>5083082
No I haven't. Why is the comparison drawn?

>> No.5083157

>>5083071
And you are implying philosophers, etc, are any different. Physicists are still waiting for a correct rendition of the quantum mechanics to come from the pencil-pushing department.

>> No.5083163

Since this is /phil/ general. What would be the philosophy equivalent to arden philosophy book? Like guided readers books. Yes, I'm a pleb.

>> No.5083183

>>5078044
yes, we have been waiting for you to guide us through the intrincacies of the field. start

>> No.5083190

>>5083157
>And you are implying philosophers, etc, are any different.
Mostly humanities people can into humanity better, yes.
>Physicists are still waiting for a correct rendition of the quantum mechanics to come from the pencil-pushing department.
See? This is the type of shit why stemfags can't rule the world. Most of them probably don't realise what it takes for them to be able to sit around being the scientist all day.

>> No.5083274

I gotta say, the whole, putting philosophy and literature into one slot called literature shows humanity don't know shit about either. Acting like philosophy ain't a science and removed from art, speaking semiotically, ... Mafakells dogno shit ... Razlfrazl next they'll put shamanism and magic in the lowerlevel of science... fk they already do that ... Wateauxwid.

>> No.5083298

>>5083120
To equate Greek tragedy with regular cultural output would be a mistake, to equate Homer with regular poetry would be a mistake, to equate all music would be a mistake. And when Greece reached its scientific golden age, the Alexandrian period, it was at its artistic nadir; the Argonautica does not hold up well

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5083341

>>5083074
Growth of society? What does that mean in terms of technology? If you think cell phones, vaccines, and satellite TV make life worth living, I have some lovely real estate to sell you in Saudi Arabia. Hard science serves the humanities.

>> No.5083343

>>5083298
will you vocaroo my name pls im having trouble getting off with just the nudes

>> No.5083349

>>5083298
You have no idea what you are talking about. it is embarrassing to read your posts.

>> No.5083369

>>5083298
>To equate Greek tragedy with regular cultural output would be a mistake,

Because Nietzsche said and so and you agree? By virtue of ignorance, if there wasn't Greek tragedy, there would still be Greek tragedy. It would just be a different entity with all the same cultural investments lumped upon it.

>> No.5083379

>>5083341
>I have some lovely real estate to sell you in Saudi Arabia.

>implying Saudi Arabian culture is worse than our own
>implying you should use western culture to interpret other cultures' merit
>implying Saudi Arabia isn't a great place to live

Sign me up for that lovely real estate.

>> No.5083383

>>5083369
>if you invest this much time thinking and creating something it has the same value as anything else that required that much thinking and creating

>> No.5083386

>>5083343
fuck you

>> No.5083390

>>5083386
its reginald btw

Cmon im so close

>> No.5083391

>>5083341
>that hand
0/10 would not bang

>> No.5083392

>>5083390
surely you jest about your name

>> No.5083393

>>5083386
say my name, you dirty cunt
your pics are not titillating enough

>> No.5083395

Who is then the navel gazer but mind? #mail me your eternal soul

>> No.5083396

>>5083393
No. choke on shit and leave me the fuck alone

>> No.5083399

>>5083392
cmon ive got a thing for cockeyed tits

>> No.5083401

>>5083396
oh, I didn't know you get this irritated
it's quite sex, actually
will you pretend to spank me in your vocroo

>> No.5083421

>>5083343
sauce

>> No.5083422

>>5083401
call her a whore, then she gets really mad. last time someone called her a whore on /lit/ she had a breakdown.

>> No.5083432

>>5083422
Because she knows it in her heart to be true

>> No.5083436

>>5083421
>>>/b/

Go be a beta faggot on some other board

>> No.5083490

>>5083396
>shows tits
>don't hit on me silly boys

>> No.5083508

>>5083490
requesting pics

>> No.5083514
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5083514

>>5083508
can't post the NSFW ones on a blue board

>> No.5083515

>>5083490
To be fair, that was on /pol/. As far as I know, she hasn't done it again.

>> No.5083516

>>5083514
you completely can

>> No.5083517

>>5083490
>posting tits gives you an excuse to harass people

le female logic am i right ;^)

>> No.5083519

>>5083514
She has freckles iirc. I don't think that's her.

>> No.5083522

>>5083517
you dropped your trip just for that

>> No.5083526

>>5083516
no, the janitor white knights feminister all day

>> No.5083527

>>5083514
that is not her: it's a camwhore

>> No.5083534

>>5083516
>>5083517
Not her. Just a camwhore

>> No.5083538

>>5083534
>>5083527
so she's a camwhore then?

>> No.5083544

>>5083538
Entirely different people, m8

>> No.5083546

>>5083526
back when I was trying to get b& I posted nudes and got 1 day

but I don't care either wat

>> No.5083548

>>5083544
how can we be sure?

feminster will have to post tits to corroborate

>> No.5083549

LMAO at beta faggots who don't like feminister. she clearly reads which automatically puts her in the top 5% of lit posters and she actually contributes relevant info to threads, which puts her in the 1%.

the only reason betas dislike her is because of her ideology. just LOL at you pathetic fagggots!

>> No.5083551

>>5083549
>contributes relevant info to threads
thanks for the laugh, kiddo

>> No.5083554

>>5083548
She already did on /pol/. She got trolled hard for her pepperoni areolas

>> No.5083558

>>5083549
King Arthur called, he wants his White Knights to return to the castle.

>> No.5083559

>>5083549
This really depends on how narrowly you defined metaphysics. If you mean in the sense of something more real than the physical, then of course philosophy doesn't take it seriously any more; in this sense, metaphysical = supernatural

>> No.5083562
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5083562

>>5083514
post them on another board and put the link here

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5083564

>>5083546
it's well known that the dyke janitor has a crush on feminister. /lit/ has some strong womyn and you can't tell them what to do.

>> No.5083565

>>5083549
>implying she contributes anything but ignorance

Now where are the tits I've been hearing about?

>> No.5083566

>>5083554
see why would you post tits if you wanted to be taken seriously?

>> No.5083571

>>5083566
Her early time on /pol/ wasn't serious. I think she was just provoking them with that trip. I don't recall her making serious threads until she started posting about socialism there, but I haven't posted on /pol/ for a long time so I'm no expert.

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5083572

>>5083527
This her?

>> No.5083573

>>5083558

lol, you faggots don't get it. black knighting is the ultimate form of white knighting. it's essentially modifying your behavior because of the gash between this bitch's legs.

but her morbid vagina isn't the problem...it's her ideology like i said. you faggots hate anything left of resentment.

>> No.5083577

>>5083572
That actually looks a lot like her, but I can't tell because the tit shot only had the bottom of her face. She also had freckles, so maybe she masked them with make up. Hard to say.

Where did you get that pic?

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5083578

>>5083573
>he doesn't neg

>> No.5083579

>>5083573
im not even sure what you're saying

>> No.5083585

>>5083577
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/25075939/
oyvey

>> No.5083587

>>5083572
damn this bitch is fine.

If anyone has pics of feminister post on /b/ and link to thread.

Other than that. Philosophy is obviously what y'all should be reading. Derrida's conclusions about aporia being prior to every philosophical claim, argument, and system is bs.

>> No.5083590

>>5083587
>. Derrida's conclusions about aporia being prior to every philosophical claim
way to end your post with absolute shit

>> No.5083594

>>5083577
An old thread on /pol/ that she posted from a post that was hers. Reverse image search only turned up one result, which was that thread on /pol/.
I asked on /r/ about it, but got nothing back. So it is either a nameless girl's pic she stole or her.

>> No.5083595

>>5083585
>/lit/ is, well, mostly full of shit. They just regurgitate dilettante gentry culture. They define what is good by what is "classical"
we don't even talk about classics what is she on

>> No.5083598

>>5083595
The Classics, rather

>> No.5083599

>>5083590
I didn't want to get banned for my post being non-/lit/ related/shit-posting/being mean/and others.

>> No.5083603

nietzsche era feminister is the ONLY good feminister. everything before and after is absolute DOGSHIT.

>> No.5083612

>>5083562

>>5083584

>> No.5083617

>>5083383
The importance is the investment, more people investing in the same creation is what gives the creation its meaning to those people.

>> No.5083618

>>5083572
Damn balding bitch got a fivehead soon to be six
still super fine though would white knight for.
where dem nudes anon?

>> No.5083621

>>5083549
>a person's who problem stems form their identity being well-known on an anonymous image board
>still chooses to tripfag

The thirst goes when the sloot goes.

>> No.5083622

>>5083618
>he thinks that's a high forehead

>> No.5083625

>>5083599
>im terrified that butterfly will tell the mods im mean

>> No.5083627

>>5083594
I'm pretty sure that's her.

>>5083603
I disagree. I think her peak was her leftist period.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/24762043/#24762043

>> No.5083630

>>5083625
I've gotten banned for shit reasons before, just playing it safe anon.

Love you too.

>> No.5083631

>>5083627
wow people on /pol/ really are stupid

>> No.5083636

>>5083612
link dead, fucking quick

>> No.5083643

>>5083636
It was a pic ripped from /soc/, nothing good.

>> No.5083645

>>5083627
>>5083585
I just wanted to point out that even with all the shitposting, /pol/ definitely has a better community than /lit/.

>> No.5083647

>>5083627
Maybe she'll weigh in on the identity of the girl in that photo in a few minutes. I'm assuming it's her since that photo was found no where else.

>> No.5083648

>>5083627
>mfw feminister touts Stirner but believes in socialism
That's some God-tier cognitive dissonance m'lady
Fucking white knights all up in this thread I swear.
I'm done with this parasocial idolatry, I'll just j/o and go back to reading.

>> No.5083651

>>5083645

>>31832574
yeah definitely

>> No.5083653

>>5083636
Literally within minutes.
Is feminister a mod? Big Brother is watching, oh bother!

>> No.5083654

>>5083647
She started worrying about her identity and being harassed a while back. Even if it is her, she'd probably say it isn't

>> No.5083656

>>5083647
>teehee i'm an internet sleuth

go fucking dig a ditch faggot

>> No.5083659

>>5083651
>>>/pol/31832574

>> No.5083661

>>5083648
That was a long time before she started talking about Stirner.

>> No.5083663

>>5083636
didn't even get to see it

>> No.5083666

>>5083653
i hope you aren't serious
you can never tell on boards like this
there sure are a lot of gullible idiots

~larry

>> No.5083669

wow you guys are fucking terrible. I'm going to jack off and read. Fuck yall weak niggas.

>> No.5083670

>>5082757
hue

>> No.5083671

>>5083656
Calm down, mate. I did the legwork that no one else seemed to be willing to do. I could care less about her or what she looks like.
I have a lot of time on my hands, so to kill some time I found some chum and threw it to some sharks.

>> No.5083672

>>5083669
see you later mediocre white person

>> No.5083674

>>5083671
>I could care less
you really wanna rumble m8

>> No.5083675

>>5082757
anal gazing would make more sense

and if you're doing that you might as well say anal gaping

>> No.5083677

>>5083674
Sure.

>> No.5083678

>>5083671
>I could care less.

It's I couldn't care less. Damnt people.

>> No.5083681

>>5083671
*couldn't care less

am I still cool guys?

>> No.5083684

>>5083681
>>5083678
>not being american

>> No.5083685

everyone calm down
there's no reason to fight
what is everybody currently reading?
(this ought to diffuse the situation)

~larry

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5083687

>>5083517
>>5083549
>>5083571
>>5083573
>>5083622
>>5083674

>> No.5083688

>>5083298
You don't like Callimachus?

>> No.5083689
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5083689

>>5083678
>>5083674
>>5083681

>> No.5083690

>>5083687
The amount of people that slerg out over Feminister is seriously pathetic, be it negative or positive sperging

>> No.5083694

>>5083687
what is this 1996
>muh white knights

shut up. good is good. feminister is better than most of you traditionalist try hard magicians.

>> No.5083697

>>5083694
>feminster is not as terrible as is humanly possible and we should be grateful

>> No.5083698

>>5083690
LMAO at people who think these attempts at detached commentary on the behavior of other posters aren't transparent as fuarrk

go write some code, ugly.

>> No.5083699

>>5083690
I actually agree. At first I liked her because she introduced me to Stirner. Then I hated her because I realized she attention whored needlessly and caused mass brouhahas like this. Now I still hate her for absolutely derailing every thread she's on. But who's fault is it? I still think it's hers, because she keeps tripfagging, knowing that it's a detriment to this board.

Just give it up, feminister. Please, for the sake of /lit/, stop tripfagging. It's tearing us apart!

>> No.5083702

>>5083697
we dont have to be grateful of shit, but if we're gonna piggy someone, the traditionalists ought to be the first to go

>> No.5083705

>>5083702
well the only trad. here is EvolaKid as far as I know, and he's just a troll

>> No.5083710

>>5083689
Stay jealous of my cheeseburgers and "freedom".

>> No.5083716

Well, they're all continental, so yes.

>> No.5083719

>>5083716
lel

>the thread never ends

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>>5083514
>those clavicles and traps
w-what has /fit/ done to me...

>> No.5083723

>>5083719
/r/ing that godawful mccarthy thread from a few months ago

>> No.5083724
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5083724

>>5083699
>woman is the target of sexist, vulgar attacks because of she is a woman
>"she made me do it! it's her fault!"

why does this sound familiar?

>> No.5083728

>>5083724
>because she is a woman
because she's insufferable

>> No.5083734

She has never shared her picture on 4chan. There are no nudes.
>>5083585
>http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/25075939/
>1381926107760.jpg
HA!
Desperate little Christian wannabe rapists.

>>5083705
>the only traditionalists here is EvolaKid
HA!
Look above.

>> No.5083738

>>5083724
Look you dumb feminist cunt, I never said it was because she was a woman. I said it was because she was a tripfag.

These fucking feminists I swear to god everything just fits right in. I bet you believe in the patriarchy too. Goddamnit.

>> No.5083741

>>5083738
Why do women have to hide in order to avoid harassment?

Anonymity if for trolling/lulz and and severely neurotic shut-ins. These people post for attention too, they just rather sink back into oblivion.
Trip, troll, why should anybody give a fuck? Do what you want.

>> No.5083750

>>5083514
THAT'S NOT FUCKING HER, FAGGOT.

>> No.5083751

>>5083741
Again: it's not about being a woman it's about being a tripfag.

No one cares about you butterfly, go get fucked. Feminister isn't even in this thread anymore, so go follow her around somewhere else. You're the worst white knight of them all.

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>>5083751
I don't care that you don't care. But if you can't answer the simple question, why respond at all?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4aK-YsPeU

>> No.5083772

All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.

>> No.5083774

>>5083772
so it goes

>> No.5083777

Actually, I would revise that. All the world is a circus, rather.

>> No.5083778

>>5083765
Great movie. Bobcat Goldthwait recreates the arms dealer scene in his recent picture God Bless America. He has nothing on Scorsese.

>> No.5083784

>>5083765
The question doesn't make fucking sense. It's like saying "oh you hate Hitler because he's a German? What have you got against Germans?"

If you're talking about your second question: are you really so stupid as to not acknowledge the fucking trail of tears that follows feminister in her wake? Are you that blinded by your creepy little obsession with her? Go die in a ditch you smug little cunt I swear to god. You fucking namefags....

>> No.5083797

>>5083778
>Travis Bickle
Everyone's favourite white knight

>>5083784
You're hardwired to not be able to answer. Too bad.
>acknowledge the fucking trail of tears that follows feminister in her wake?
Winning arguments (imo) I am not "blinded" by my interests in her, actually some of the anons she argues with plainly are (See above!) THAT'S creepy.

>> No.5083809

>>5079309
> - Anon 2014

>> No.5083814

>>5079300
kek le new meme.

>> No.5083826

>>5083797
YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING STUPID CUNT WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? THE ANSWER IS THAT THEY FUCKING DON?T HAVE TO HIDE TO AVOID HARASSMENT. NO ONE IS HARASSING /YOU/ FOR BEING A WOMAN THEY'RE HARASSING YOU FOR BEING A STOOGE. GODDAMNIT DUDE EVERY TIME I INTERACT WITH YOU I FEEL MYSELF BECOMING JUST A BIT MORE MISANTHROPIC.

>> No.5083855

>>5083826
Stop.

>> No.5083887

>>5083855
Go fuck yourself.

>> No.5083932

>>5083549
can i be your friend. you seem like a cool dude (serious post)

>> No.5083939

/lit/ needs to focus on another tripfag so we can move on with Feminister. After all these years, I'm kind of sad that Deep&Edgy stopped posting here...

>> No.5083942

>>5083738
evola doesn't get half the fucking hate feminister does and she's 10 times the better poster
it ain't hard to tell dude

>> No.5083944

>>5083797
"No, I don't want to get off. Stop that. I want to help you."
m'lady

>> No.5084007

>>5083942
Ebola doesn't attention whore he just shit posts, plus he does so far less than fm. Furthermore the reason why people give fm so much shit for being a girl is because she keeps bringing it up, so it gets flung back at her.

>tfw bf is beta lol
>I'm so attractive guys no really
>once I let a dog lick my vajayjay teehee
>I gave an ex bf a piece of my panties as a bookmark aren't I quirky?

Have you noticed that there's not nearly as much shit thrown at Butterfly for being a grill?

>> No.5084053

>>5084007
Feminister is a disturbed man who believes he is the little girl.

>> No.5084060

>>5084007
>tfw bf is beta lol
Not sure where this came from (beta?). Where I brought him up, it was in same context posters might bring up their gf's, which certainly happens here and no one objects.
>once I let a dog lick my vajayjay teehee
Pretty sure I only mentioned that once in a thread where we were just shooting the shit and someone asked if I liked dogs.

>I gave an ex bf a piece of my panties as a bookmark aren't I quirky?
In a thread on gifts you had given to people who were into literature....

>> No.5084066

>>5084060
Holy shit kill yourself

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>>5084007
Why is it that you care about those things?

Especially when she's a quality poster regardless.

>> No.5084132

>>5084060
>Where I brought him up, it was in same context posters might bring up their gf's, which certainly happens here and no one objects.
All women are beta in their eyes.
I love hearing about all the little quirks, sexy related or not. Hangups are ruining their lives and they blame you for bringing them up.

>> No.5084358

I don't know what navel gazing means but if it's something negative then I agree.

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5084383

>>5084060
>yeah so me and my gf
>no one cares
>I did this thing with my bf
>stop being such a fucking attention whore you cunt

>> No.5084949
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>feminister in charge of not being an attention whore

>> No.5085257

People into masturbatory navel-gazing have a lot to learn about masturbation.

>> No.5085269

>>5078044
Everything except metaphysics is navel gazing.

>> No.5085273

>>5084060
>>tfw bf is beta lol
>Not sure where this came from (beta?). Where I brought him up, it was in same context posters might bring up their gf's, which certainly happens here and no one objects.

bitch please we all read that /adv/ thread of yours where you talk about how your bf is a castrated introvert who obeys your every command (and yet you're somehow unsatisfied with him, hurrr durrr who could have expected that)

>> No.5085397

>>5085269
What is metaphysics?

>> No.5085400

>>5085397
This really depends on how narrowly you defined metaphysics. If you mean in the sense of something more real than the physical, then of course philosophy doesn't take it seriously any more; in this sense, metaphysical = supernatural

>> No.5085415

>>5085400
Who will be the first one to get an ironic tattoo of this?

even if it's ironic it's still shit

>> No.5085422

>>5085400
Thank you. That makes sense.