Where are my sci fi brothers?

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Anonymous Mon Jun 23 22:50:49 2014 No.5050488 [DELETED]

Where are my sci fi brothers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 22:52:24 2014 No.5050497 >>5050488 I don't completely agree with that list, but yeah, Asimov is pled tier while Phillip K Dick is too based.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 22:53:41 2014 No.5050505 >City I remember hugging my fucking dog while reading that shit. God damn, I wanted science fiction, not feels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 22:57:34 2014 No.5050526 What's this board problem against Bradbury? Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 22:59:53 2014 No.5050540 >>5050526 He was an emo bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:02:14 2014 No.5050557 >>5050505 I remember I wanted to read it but couldn't buy it. What is it about?

Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:05:04 2014 No.5050575

>>5050557
Dogs are learn how to speak and evolve to compose elaborate thoughts and speeches, later the dogs reveal they can see some sort of cosmic leprechauns or some shit that lets humans go to Jupiter and live there leaving the dogs behind alone on Earth or something, can't quite remember. Quite a book worth reading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:40:27 2014 No.5050782 >Not posting To Your Scattered Bodies Go

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:45:01 2014 No.5050806 >>5050526 He never uses one word where a paragraph of prose will do.

Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:47:35 2014 No.5050820

>Gibson
Well shit, it's been a while since someone mentioned that name. I remember reading Neuromancer and Idoru in high school. Was my fucking mind raped or what. The sad thing about sci fi is that it loses its charm while society makes new technologies. While in the past you could read some shit and go apeshit imagining robots, space and technology tools, but today most retards will go "uh but we have those now"

Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:51:22 2014 No.5050833

>>5050820
The major problem I see today is that there comes a movie about a sci fi book and suddenly people think they know sci fi or bastardize its name or the name of the novel like they did with Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep and We can remember it for you wholesale, but those bastards don't make sci fi movies, they make ACTION movies with technology thrown between.

Want a good piece of sci fi in other form that is not book? Take a look at Akira, either the anime or the manga, both are cyberpunk as shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:51:53 2014 No.5050836 >>5050488 What a shitty list. Who the fuck thought they were capable of giving advice for what science fiction to read when they themselves had only read the most basic staples of the genre?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:53:10 2014 No.5050842 >>5050836 >Phillip K Dick >Gibson >shit >>>/reddit/ go play to be a big boy there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:54:12 2014 No.5050844 >>5050836 >Basic = shit So classic is now shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:55:08 2014 No.5050848 >>5050836 I wouldn't consider A Maze of Death to be basic anon. Why don't you share some superior examples for us?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:55:13 2014 No.5050849 >>5050836 I bet you use a fedora and masturbate to miniature horses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:56:21 2014 No.5050855 >>5050836 >huuuur duuur dey didn post muh total osbcure total dark edgy authors huuurd im soo offended

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:56:40 2014 No.5050857 which gibson novel has the most literary value, if any? does anything approach PKD?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:57:45 2014 No.5050859 >>5050836 >We are having a civilized discussion about sci fi and mocking Bradbury (mocking Bradbury is ok, get with the program) then this faggot comes along Is 9gag or Knowyourmeme closed or something?

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:02:11 2014 No.5050868

>>5050857
I'd say that Gibson and PKD are different arenas. The novel with most value for me (as for many others!) is Neuromancer, it's the basis for cyberpunk. Sadly like some anon said earlier, sci fi loses its charm while time passes. You'd had to read Neuromancer while you were in school or young to understand how powerful it was.

PKD now, takes on religion and existentialism, for me Ubik is his magnum opus no matter how people love Electric Sheep. Ubik is basically Inception meets The Matrix

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:03:16 2014 No.5050873 >>5050836 Nobody is impressed that you hate the classics or fathers of sci fi, go play being edgy someplace else.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:05:32 2014 No.5050885

You guys fucking suck. The only amazing sci-fi novel I've ever read has been The Invention of Morel. And none of you fucking lunkheads even recommended it to me after days of requests for recs.

I even specifically asked, is there a Borges of sci-fi? Or is something akin to Borges in the sci-fi oeuvre. And you know what I got?

Fucking PKD. You people have the lowest fucking standards.

After wading through two shit novels, Androids and Ubik, I finally found, courtesy of my girlfriend, The Invention of Morel by Casares. Was it more like Borges you ask?

Well, let me think about that...

Borges wrote the fucking prologue. Holy shit. You dolts are clueless. How have none of you read it? It's virtual reality, holograms, secret rooms, robots, nostalgia for the 30s in a futuristic setting, a prison state, radical politics... and no one talks about it. Just the same bullshit over and over.

I'm about to read Dune, since Casares restored my faith in the genre, and because I know at least David Lynch liked it, but for such ardent fans, y'all sure have low standards.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:06:55 2014 No.5050893
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>>5050842
>>5050844
>>5050873
You three need to work on your reading comprehension.
>>5050848
>>5050849
>>5050855
>>5050859

There's already perfectly good rec lists on the wiki, I suppose it's too much to expect you summerfags had actually been to that site though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:07:02 2014 No.5050894 >>5050885 >The Invention of Morel hahahahahhahaa

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:07:41 2014 No.5050900 >>5050857 Neuromancer has the most literary value, but it doesn't hold up. It's only important so far as it's place in history and less on it's own merits as a novel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:08:07 2014 No.5050902 >>5050893 >This is a request thread Who's the faggot that needs Hooked on Phonics?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:08:15 2014 No.5050904 >>5050894 >Not liking The Invention of Morel You have poor taste. >>5050900 Agreed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:09:23 2014 No.5050909 >>5050900 This. Neuromancer has it's place in time, but not in hearts. You get the idea once you read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:10:58 2014 No.5050914 >>5050894 >implying you have better taste than Borges, Paz, Marquez, and Bolano This is exactly what I'm talking about. No standards. Fucking Philip K Dick, I swear to God..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:11:29 2014 No.5050916 >>5050893 >huur the works on your list are shit >here is another list nobody asked for with the same works and some more >i'm winning Please leave you and your lists

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:12:19 2014 No.5050920

>>5050885
>robots
I don't remember there being robots.

Listen, your first mistake was assuming that people on /lit/ are actually well read. Your second, larger mistake was assuming that science fiction fans were well read, when they're even less likely to have explored outside of the big names of the genre than the standard /lit/ poster. Want a chorus of people praising Ubik? Start a sci-fi thread on /lit/. Want some actual recommendations of sci-fi work you haven't heard off before? You're better off just googling random lists.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:12:38 2014 No.5050922

>>5050868
>>5050900
yeah, i figured. i started reading it a few years ago and found it completely worthless - but thought maybe some other book of his was a hidden gem. snowcrash is better than all of that shit, and i probably only enjoyed that because i was in high school at the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:12:45 2014 No.5050923 >>5050914 >Comparing PKD to Borges I...what? When I think I've seen the most retarded shit on this planet, faggots like you emerge and surprise me more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:13:35 2014 No.5050930 >>5050902 You might be mentally disabled.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:14:50 2014 No.5050934 >>5050923 I'm not. I asked if there WAS a comparable science fiction writer to Borges. I was told, again, and again, and again, to read PKD. This is on your hands, sci-fag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:15:19 2014 No.5050938 >>5050923 Don't think he was comparing them, just making fun of you and your ilk for recommending the mediocre writer PKD when there are actual sci-fi writers with writing chops out there that you ignore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:16:23 2014 No.5050940 >>5050923 >muh cult of pleb garbage faggot

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:21:04 2014 No.5050949

>>5050893
You are the kind of people that believe that knowledge is a some sort of competition or some shit, that if something doesn't meet your highly standards of elitism everyone is a pleb and you are the gentleman almighty of supreme enlightenment. Very please, kill yourself, you won yaaay you won over strangers you never meet congrats, now go suck daddy's dick and pin yourself a "I AM SPECIAL" star on your ass

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:28:09 2014 No.5050965 File: 34 KB, 480x360, WDZzLV9INGNIbjQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5050949 Wow man, you really need to get some perspective. Maybe take a break for a while before posting any more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:32:56 2014 No.5050973 >>5050885 >is there a Borges of sci-fi? Gene Wolfe was heavily influenced by Borges.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 00:41:29 2014 No.5050999

>>5050488
OP, the top of your image must have gotten cut off somehow, the part that says 'SF so good the guy below me [PKD] thought I was more than one person tier' and has pictures of Stanisław Lem books.

>>5050885
>I even specifically asked, is there a Borges of sci-fi?
If it's the thread I'm thinking of, some discerning anon mentioned Lem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 01:24:16 2014 No.5051099 >>5050885 Read Martian Chronicles by Bradbury. Borges wrote that book a very promising introduction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 01:30:13 2014 No.5051116 >>5050914 >Borges, Paz, Marquez, and Bolano So what you really wanted a hispanic author? Why didn't you just ask for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 01:57:33 2014 No.5051183 What's wrong with Asimov?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 01:59:00 2014 No.5051186 thinking of picking up solaris. is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 03:15:26 2014 No.5051389 >>5050505 What was your dog fucking while you hugged it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 03:27:18 2014 No.5051414 >>5051183 He's esteemed. Popularity breeds contentment.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 04:12:07 2014 No.5051541
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I read Martian Chronicles last year after hearing everyone tell me how great it is.
I really didn't like it, just didn't see anything interesting in it and the style was boring.

Why did you guys like it ?

Also, I finished the cycle of Hyperion and loved it !

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 04:23:32 2014 No.5051568 File: 464 KB, 930x1476, a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is what I recently read and liked. What would you recommend ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 04:28:03 2014 No.5051576 File: 4 KB, 184x184, 1388794108233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5050497 >Asimov is pleb tier kill yourself faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 05:02:56 2014 No.5051669 >>5050488 Can anyone recommend sci fi novellas? I find novellas to be quite enjoyable because of their short length, i think it has to do with my attention span. Cheers and thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 05:10:21 2014 No.5051688 i'm reading metropolis right now and i'm enjoying it quite a lot. freder is a bit of a bleeding heart wuss but i still empathize with him and the story

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 05:56:27 2014 No.5051750
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>>5051568
Can't help you Anon since I've only read one of those, but I can give you some general recommendations on what I've read. Thanks for some recs in turn.
>>5051541
I have read the Cantos and enjoyed it, but found it went out with a putter. The second one was so good.
>>5051183
It's popular to hate on classics. Someone was shitting on Shakespeare on /v/ the other day. Don't know why I was surprised.

The science fiction I've read recently are
>Revelation Space by Alistair Reynolds
>Quantum Thief/Fractal Prince by Hannu Rajaniemi
Really enjoyed this one for being so new
>Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton
Very slow, but amazing alien concept.
>Now reading Book of the New Sun
I already have so many questions. Who is Severian? Messiah? Pawn of ancient aliens? Way in the future or waaay in the past?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:12:11 2014 No.5051780 >>5051568 how was stranger in a strange land?

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:24:55 2014 No.5051794

>>5051750
>I have read the Cantos and enjoyed it, but found it went out with a putter.

I felt the same for the end of the first book. On the other hand I nearly wept at Sol's story, I don't know why but losing his daughter over 25 years was really sad to me.

And thank you I'll be getting the book of the new sun series.

>>5051780
It's hard to say.
Way too religious (preachy) for me in the second half and Mike's character (the martian) felt weird/pointless at times.
But overall I really liked it, but I know I had really mixed feelings about it throughout the reading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:25:40 2014 No.5051795 >>5051780 Strange.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:38:03 2014 No.5051825 File: 13 KB, 293x208, angry david kabauter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5050497 >Asimov is pleb tier

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:55:03 2014 No.5051861

>>5050885
I guess you haven't been here that long? A few months ago everyone was talking about the Invention of Morel, but when things get popular people tend to talk about them less.

Invention of Morel is one of my favourite books, however people who primarily read scifi may not have read it as it tends not to get lumped with scifi.

Anyway, I'd reccomend all Casares' other stuff. Not all scifi, but interesting anyway. Him and Borges wrote a couple of collaborative novels which are very interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:58:21 2014 No.5051870 >>5051669 I am Legend Invention of Morel

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:59:22 2014 No.5051872
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>>5051861
I've never heard of Invention of Morel.
What kind of S-F is it and what makes it S-F?

As anyone here read the Book of Dave (Will Self) and could tell me what they thought about it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 06:59:45 2014 No.5051874 File: 347 KB, 831x1234, 1343738557358.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] school gets out around 4 30 #lol #pwned

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 07:04:15 2014 No.5051881 >>5050488 Your chart fucking sucks, bro.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 07:04:25 2014 No.5051882

>>5051872
>What kind of S-F is it and what makes it S-F?

It's hard to say as someone who hasn't read that much other scifi.

Telling you which of the more obvious tenets of science fiction are part of the book may ruin it for you, it being based largely on plot. I'd recommend just reading it, it's not long at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 07:12:13 2014 No.5051888 File: 18 KB, 204x202, Severian.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5051750 Well one of the questions about Severian's powers can be answered with evidence from Shadow alone

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 07:18:17 2014 No.5051893

>>5050836
>themselves had only read the most basic staples of the genre
Don't worry anon, I read your entire post before I hit reply, and I agree completely. Also:
>categorising by author instead of by quality of the novel or genre
You done went full retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 07:26:25 2014 No.5051899 >>5051186 so?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 07:51:29 2014 No.5051957 >>5051899 Yes, it's excellent. The hardcopies are a two-step translation process, while there is a direct translation in e-book form, so you might want to check out the latter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 08:54:03 2014 No.5052092 >>5051957 i will be reading it in german anyway. is that an acceptable translation or is the english one you mentioned maybe better?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:09:37 2014 No.5052138 >>5052092 Sorry, not familiar with the non-English translations so I can't say.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:18:38 2014 No.5052167

>>5052092
There are 2 different German translations by the way, the first from 1972 (by Irmtraud Zimmermann-Göllheim), the second from 1983 (by Kurt Kelm). I can't say which one is better since I haven't read them yet.
Both are directly translated from Polish to German.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:28:46 2014 No.5052199

>>5052167
the 1972 translation is the Western German one by the way, the 1983 the Eastern German one (since it was deemed as "too pessimistic and negative" by the Eastern German Censorship-bureau until then). As I said can't tell which one is better but I'd go for the older one because the Eastern German one may actually be censored or just for the newest one you can find. there's a 2009 release on Amazon, but it's not available any more for whatever reason, there's only
http://www.amazon.de/Solaris-Stanislaw-Lem/dp/3548606113
pisses me off actually, I'd want to have it as a Hardcover but none available.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:36:09 2014 No.5052220 I see "The Postman" on the big list posted, and have mentioned few times across the board. I've read "Kiln People", another one of David Brin's novels. How do they compare?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:43:22 2014 No.5052237 File: 36 KB, 500x375, 1346311640039.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5052199 i have the version translated by irmtraud. thanks for all the info, anon. it's appreciated

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:50:35 2014 No.5052262 Are any of those somewhat plausible or is it horrible pseudo science? I can't stomach reading sci-fi anymore that is basically just fantasy with lasers.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 09:57:01 2014 No.5052283

>>5051186

Yes, Solaris is excellent. It's very much in the thoughtful rather than action-packed category. It's about the unknowability of a truly alien existence, which allows the book to explore topics like how well we can know each other. It doesn't have Lem's characteristic humor but does play with fake texts (a la Borges) in an interesting way.

Also, in print the only English translation available is a double translation (Polish -> French -> English) and is widely disliked. A newer, direct translation has been made, but due to some unfortunate copyright arrangement it's only available in audio or digital form, no print.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 10:01:57 2014 No.5052300
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>>5052262

It really depends.
It seems what you like is hard sci-fi. But I don't know how hard you want it to be (not an innuendo), so take a look at some of Greg Egan's works.

There is a style in France called "Anticipation" where it is definitely S-F because of the state of technology and the overall shape of the society, but what is important are the individuals; once the background has been established we just follow the story.
Generally, as the name suggests it is not far from our present society and it is "plausible", it could be called semi-Scifi.

(This style was very popular in the 80's and for some reasons lots of the covers show almost nude females. Don't ask me why.)

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 10:24:17 2014 No.5052371
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Shit everyone interested in sci-fi should read:
>All the Dick books mentioned in the OP
>The Crying of Lot 49 -> V -> Gravity's Rainbow
>Borges - Labyrinths
>Roadside Picnic -> Hard to be God
>Gene Wolf's The Book of the New Sun tetralogy
>Prometheus Rising
>Alan Moore's Swamp Thing -> Watchmen -> From Hell -> Promethea
>Then finally, the greatest sci fi book of all time Nabokov's Ada

Not all of these works fall under the "modern-tech amplified" stereotype (which falls apart under examination, as Jonathan Lethem says "There is no genre"), but they deal in similar themes, especially if one considers magic as language (which it nearly always was mythologically), and language as mental technology, so thus, fantasy as science fiction.

Aren't all stories fantastical? Imposed upon by symbolism? By Plato's Forms?

Isn't reality pretty goddamn fantastical? I feel like using our own world as a setting 50 years ago would have been "heavy handed"...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:03:27 2014 No.5052454 Has anybody here bought this collection? Is it worth getting? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0192803816/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=RHZKL5OBRY3K&coliid=ITEVMJDACF9GO

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:09:19 2014 No.5052466

>>5052262
Try Stanisław Lem.
If I remember it right Dzienniki gwiazdowe (Star Diaries) was translated into english, and I'd recommend it greatly. It's Lem playing with sci-fi, philosophy, history and physics, still delivering good stories.. I've heard good thing about Solaris too, but I haven't read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:24:45 2014 No.5052505 File: 632 KB, 1280x1920, 1371721189314.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post your face when someone unironically called Neuromancer shit or boring

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:40:14 2014 No.5052552 >>5052466 >>5052300 Thank you. I'll look into that! >But I don't know how hard you want it to be Really hard. The best case is if the author actually had someone with a scientific background at hand to make it more plausible.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:51:10 2014 No.5052579

>>5052552
>someone with a scientific background at hand to make it more plausible.

Then go for Greg Egan. If you don't have a Master in computer science or biological sciences you may need to keep wikipedia open while reading.

You very probably know them already, but just in case you could also read some books by R. Silverberg, I. Asimov and P. K. Dick (and Larry Niven maybe ...).

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:53:04 2014 No.5052584

>>5052579
>Larry Niven

I actually just came back from the library with ring worlds.

Thanks again. I didn't know most of them. Up until now I basically just read whatever scifi book had the best cover but that's probably not a good way to look for a good book lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:55:48 2014 No.5052596 >>5050488 I thoroughly enjoyed Larry Bivens "the state" trilogy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:56:41 2014 No.5052599 >>5050914 m8 A Scanner Darkly is fucking good especially the trash talk between the junkies toward the end of the novel. perfect. beautiful

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 11:57:14 2014 No.5052603 >>5052505 Cyberpunk Sci Fi is shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 12:00:06 2014 No.5052614 >>5052584 I would avoid bowl of heaven unless you want to read about the most retarded starship crew to ever discover a million year old solar system sized mode of transportation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 12:01:27 2014 No.5052617 >>5052614 Sounds like fun or is it just rage inducing?

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Anonymous Tue Jun 24 12:04:36 2014 No.5052627
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>>5052603
never read any cyberpunk literature but it's excellent in vidya and movies.
it's the perfect dystopian sci fi genre.

>mfw Ghost in the Shell is actually quoting Catcher in the Rye

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 13:28:30 2014 No.5052848 is ender game any good? or is it just overhyped because of the movie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 13:38:34 2014 No.5052886 >>5052848 It's good, far better than the movie. The audio book is excellent.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 13:43:51 2014 No.5052907

>>5050488
>>5050893 <- That pic from http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Genre_fiction is indeed better than OPs.
Permutation City by Greg Egan is the best thing I've read so far.

Maybe we could make another list that focuses on the different genres of SciFi, ie: Post-apocalyptic, Post-cyberpunk, Hard SciFi, Social SciFi etc

>>5051183 What should be wrong with him ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 14:10:13 2014 No.5052980 >>5052848 It's good. Card is a fucking nigger though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 14:37:00 2014 No.5053068 >>5052980 Yep, had I know that he was so homophobic I wouldn't have bought his books. But it's always felt weird to me, you would not see from his stories that he is such a gay-hater and die-hard mormon. Quite the contrary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 14:43:25 2014 No.5053097 >>5053068 I still would've bought his boss because I enjoy them, but yeah he's an ass. And he literally called the evil aliens of his story 'buggers'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 14:44:31 2014 No.5053101 >>5053097 *his books, obviously. Damn auto-correct

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 14:47:21 2014 No.5053115 File: 27 KB, 389x388, 061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Dune good for someone who wants to begin reading Sci-fi BOOKS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 15:03:54 2014 No.5053183 >>5052552 Sounds like you would like Red Mars as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 15:57:27 2014 No.5053414 File: 987 KB, 800x600, 1361044596345.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >insulting based Asimov

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 15:59:39 2014 No.5053426 >>5053115 I thought the original was pretty balla, but the sequels aren't really that great.

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 16:39:03 2014 No.5053633

>>5051888
Not done reading yet, only 1/4 way.

>>5052505
It did not age very well compared to other cyberpunk, especially if you know a bit about tech. I'm not saying it's shit, but it's not the best that subgenre has to offer.

>>5052552
Quantum Thief is a bit soft on the edges, but hard at the core. The author is a physicist. Many sci fi authors are. (or astronomers. Most suck at convincing xenobiology)

>>5053115
I'd recommend it for an experience, but don't let it define the genre. As with many genre fiction that go beyond a certain length, it flounders at the end, like Herbert wasn't sure what he wanted to write next.

Relating to my comment above, I was wondering if anyone had recommendations for sci-fi with convincing, interesting aliens? I'm not talking about bipedal lizard people or greys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 16:41:41 2014 No.5053653 Where would Dan Simmons' Hyperion rank in there. Been thinking about picking it up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 16:45:29 2014 No.5053674 I read the Invention of Morel today based on this thread's recommendation. It was good. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 17:09:02 2014 No.5053775 >>5053653 The General consensus on /lit/ is something like this: Book 1: 9/10 Book 2: 8/10 Book 3: 4/10 Book 4: 2/10 I personally thought books 3 and 4 were OK, but I understand why some people hated them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 17:12:19 2014 No.5053783 >>5050488 what about childhood's end?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 17:22:36 2014 No.5053816 >>5053783 The only good thing about OP's list is that he left that dreck off of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 17:27:11 2014 No.5053830 >>5053816 :(

Anonymous Tue Jun 24 17:29:11 2014 No.5053839

I read a rather interesting New Wave novel about people living in a utopian society where death has been cured, you can choose what you look like, you can make or eat what you like, the resources never run out, there are no societal ills, and people fuck and consume for eternity, but the main character questions the meaning of this existence.

I think it was written by a woman, but fuck I can't remember the name.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 17:50:00 2014 No.5053926 >>5053775 Are each of the books a contained plot? So could I just read the first two, or would that leave me in the middle of the story

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 18:07:15 2014 No.5054006 >>5053926 I guess you could read the first two and leave it at that. The Hyperion cycle has kind of an OK open closure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 24 18:49:25 2014 No.5054235 >>5050488 Where's Snow Crash?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 25 03:16:26 2014 No.5056023 >>5054235 >taking these lists seriously

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