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5046797 No.5046797 [Reply] [Original]

What drugs was the author of Revelations on and how did he manage to get it canonized?

>> No.5046854

>>5046797
There really aren't any specific details about the author. What do you think he was on?

>> No.5046878

>>5046854
>What do you think he was on?

snake venom, mushrooms, dmt made by aliens, you name it

>> No.5046882

>>5046878
He probably injected owl puree into his eyeball.

>> No.5047244

If it was written by John of Patmos, that Patmos is famous for its magic mushrooms might come into play. I don't know if the question of who wrote it was ever answered to reasonable certainty.

>> No.5047372
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5047372

>>5046797
>it's me, you

I laughed, but someone isn't aware of how the trinity works.

>> No.5047376

>>5046882

I actually laughed at that. Gotta get high somehow, right? Beats nutmeg.

>> No.5047387

>>5046797
Saul, who became Paul, who "met Jesus on the road" whilst persecuting Christians for Emperor Nero wrote this. It is said that it came to him in a dream. It is very likely that he is using symbolic imagery to warn early Christians of the madness of Nero. Whilst providing the earliest churches with moralist/Prophetic direction. The books of the new testimate existed as early as 40 to 50 AD. Oxford even destroyed some of the original book of mark. However an official "Cannon" was not compiled until the mainstream consensus is that the New Testament was written in a form of Koine Greek, which was the common language of the Eastern Mediterranean from the Conquests of Alexander the Great (335–323 BC)

>> No.5047421

>>5047372
But... That's absurd. Logically absurd.

>> No.5047424

>>5047421
It's God motherfucker, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>> No.5047427

>>5047421
No it's not.

a car is a vehicle, a bike is a vehicle, a boat is a vehicle

but a car is not a bike or boat
a bike is not a car or boat
and a boat is not a bike or car

Makes perfect sense.

>> No.5047431

>>5047427
is means something like equality. it has to be that way, because otherwise you have three gods.

>> No.5047433

>>5047431
What?

>> No.5047438

>>5047427
the car is the vehicle, the bike is the vehicle, the boat is the vehicle.

>> No.5047441

>>5047438
Yes.

Vehicle = that which transports
God = that which creates and rules

>> No.5047445

>>5047431
god has three simultaneous modes of existence, not a very difficult idea

>> No.5047446

>>5047441
there's not more than one god, nor are they three parts of one god.

>> No.5047448

>>5047446
There are three manifestations of one god.

>> No.5047459

>>5047441
but The God is specifically an elderly Caucasian male with a long white beard

>> No.5047464

>>5047459
And?
Man, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all human in image.

>> No.5047496

It's an Apocalypse. There were lots of these. Most of them were lost, and we know them only from references to them. This one was popular only because of the clever way in which the author takes the symbolism that he uses to obfuscate the fact that he's running a diatribe against the roman empire (heads of the beast, number of the beast, "babylon" etc) and segues into religious symbolism about the rapidly oncoming end of the world without missing a beat. It must have been tremendously popular in the day, and became even more impressive later after people forgot that the stuff he was talking about in terms of rome hadn't actually happened and started generalizing it and applying it to the symbolic revelations later in the book. And you have to admit the guy knows how to tell a vivid, creepy story. Some of the things he predicted about the roman emperors seem to have actually come true, but most people think this is because the book was written later and then attributed backward to make it more impressive. or there were added interpolations.

>> No.5048551

>>5046797
i've got some amplified/expanded bible at home. will that take away from revelations?

who's version hits hardest?

>> No.5048563

>>5046797
Mental illness.

>> No.5048581

>>5048563
Pretty much a requirement when you're writing what you think is the word of God.

>> No.5048607

>>5048581
>>5048581
well where do you think words come from? is your cold dead unfeeling brain spitting them out as a result of amino acids and proteins getting together and firing off in the right parts of the brain? if you think so, then why bother living if you're just a machine?

so if you're not a machine, what are 'you'? other than the conceptual form of course. 'you' are a whirlpool - the form is constant but the material is constantly flowing and changing

>> No.5048610

>>5048607
i should have added that there's no need to attach a bunch of stupid guilty christian baggage to the idea of god

>> No.5048612

>>5047421
No. They have the same substance but not the same hypostasis.

>> No.5048614

>>5048607
>why bother living if you're just a machine?
Why the fuck not?

>> No.5048637

>>5048614
what's the point of pushing on in the face of odds stacked infinitely against your favor? ie, the universe as a cause/effect machine

>> No.5048642

>>5048637
Why do you think there has to be a "point"?

>> No.5048643

>>5048637
How are the odds against me?

>> No.5048652

>>5048642
>>5048643
i'm in no condition to articulate properly in an ontological debate.

it simply seems that the view of me vs other is something that was cooked up by society in the last few hundred years

>> No.5048655

>>5048652
especially in one where materialism is dominant

>> No.5048667

>>5048642
Ha, thanks for being imbibed and not descending into a diatribe.
The me vs other is an important evolutionary concept, for one.

>> No.5048675

>>5048667
for
>>5048652

>> No.5048679

>>5048667
meh, no point in getting into a mental dick waving contest. whatever keeps you going without fucking with other people's rights is ok with me.

looking at you, fundies...