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You have 40 hours to explain why you aren't a full supporter and a strong adherent of Stoicism.

>> No.5014881

>>5014856
yes
ill come back with my answer tomorrow

>> No.5014891
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5014891

>implying I'm not

>> No.5014919

>>5014856
No transcendent enough

>> No.5014921

Because ideologies can never set you free

>> No.5014965

>>5014856
I only follow the overcoming negative emotions part. Can't really be ethically one with nature as a ethical egoist.

>> No.5014989

>>5014856
*tips transcendence*

>> No.5015011

>>5014856
Because Virtue is in the eye of the beholder and therefore useless as any objective measure of you own self worth. Holding yourself to some unreachable standard seems to me to be futile and self-defeating. Denying yourself simple pleasures just for the sake of it. Artificial discipline. Good if it works for others, but my mind doesn't buy that BS for a second

>> No.5015019

Because my opinions are better than yours.

>> No.5015444

>>5015011
I feel stoicism is just a way of guilt tripping people into thinking their lives could be so much more than it already is. It's just a fucking waste of a concept

>> No.5015448

>>5014921
It's not an ideology.

Although I agree with your post.

>> No.5015478

>>5015448

It has to be an ideology today to believe in it. It only takes a bit of reasoning to see it's complete bullshit.

>> No.5015485

>>5015478
What do you mean, believe it?

It's a general approach.

Anyway, why is it bullshit?

>> No.5015489

i just do what i feel like. why should i follow your derp ideal life anyway

>> No.5015497

>>5015489
Isn't marxism idealist (not in the physical sense)?

>> No.5015513

>>5015485

You have to believe in its spooks to actually use the general approach.

>> No.5015516

>>5015513
What if it's my preference?

>> No.5015597

>>5015497
well it is a prescriptive social theory with an accompanied descriptive system. you gotta specify which part is idealized.

but anyway i am in no way a marxist lol

>> No.5015604

>>5014856
B-but I am. Ataraxia 4 lyfe.

>> No.5015628

>>5015597
I was likely thinking of the former part but I shall just read up on it instead of asking you guys.

>> No.5015632

Because Epicureanism.

>> No.5015634

>>5015489
>>5015597
is this the real onionrings? what do you think of deep&edgy (who still posts sometimes) and nietzsche and stirner?

>> No.5015664
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5015664

cus buddhism is stoicism +

>> No.5015680

Because history shows that we can change the world through positive action

>> No.5015687

>>5014856
Virtue has never been an enticing abstraction to me. It's literally useless. Happiness, however, is its own reward.

>> No.5015693

>>5015632
>Hedonist
>2014

You are only slightly above YOLO-tier plebs.

>> No.5015712

>>5015693
>Epicureanism
>Hedonism
>one and the same

>> No.5015730

>>5015680
Nothing ever lasts.

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5015751

>He would restrict his worldly pleasures in pursuit of happiness rather than embrace hedonism and actually achieve it!

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5016086

>>5015693
Negative hedonism.
Figure it out.

>>5015730
Oh true. Might as well stop eating. You're only going to get hungry again.

>> No.5016167

>>5015444
What the fuck? That's not even close to what stoicism is about.