What do you think about tarantino as a writer? He writes great dialogue and is really good at building up tension before some violent shoot-out, but I'd like to see him try to grow and branch out. Try some new things.

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Anonymous Tue Jun 10 08:47:18 2014 No.4994299 [DELETED]

What do you think about tarantino as a writer?

He writes great dialogue and is really good at building up tension before some violent shoot-out, but I'd like to see him try to grow and branch out. Try some new things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 08:49:57 2014 No.4994301 His dialogue has become a parody of itself in recent years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 08:53:41 2014 No.4994307 "Warm black dingus"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:01:22 2014 No.4994315 He's good, but childish.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:12:04 2014 No.4994335 I don't get the hype. Django Unchained was fucking terrible; a mish-mash of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:12:41 2014 No.4994339 >>4994335 >I don't get the hype. Carry-over from Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:15:15 2014 No.4994341 >>4994299 He's doing the shame shit again and again. I don't mind that he is a borderline-autistic asshole, but please, write something original and get out of your comfort-zone. Only 20-something students like him now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:15:49 2014 No.4994342 >>4994339 I didn't see any merit in either. All they were to me was meaningless transgressive violence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:16:11 2014 No.4994343 >>4994335 Bonjorno

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:22:20 2014 No.4994351 He has a good eye, the scene in inglorious bastards where the farmer sits down with waltz is brilliant and subtle. The best part is when waltz whips out this big white horn to smoke out of while the farmer has a standard corncob pipe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:26:14 2014 No.4994357 >>4994351 As a director he's grown visually but he just can't seem to develop as a writer.

Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:29:28 2014 No.4994363

>>4994351
That's hardly brilliant or subtle. It's not even particularly imaginative. A high-ranking Nazi officer having better stuff than a poor farmer? It would be absurd if anything else was the case. It's a fun and well put together film but it's not exactly high art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:36:35 2014 No.4994381 File: 110 KB, 474x528, 1402246508583.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4994351 There's nothing subtle about that scene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:38:23 2014 No.4994387 >>4994299 >dubs Racist, plagiaristic cunt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:39:34 2014 No.4994388 >>4994299 i find his films overrated in the extreme

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:41:02 2014 No.4994394 File: 13 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4994299 I'll forever love him for this scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE9Qm8mShik

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:45:17 2014 No.4994402 >>4994394 You mean the scene that everybody loves? Not very patrician of you. I personally like the scene when the end credits signal I can leave the auditorium.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:45:59 2014 No.4994404 File: 9 KB, 250x306, umthur.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Apparently he's trying two new things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 09:46:06 2014 No.4994405 >>4994402 How euphoric.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 10:10:02 2014 No.4994473 >>4994394 Actually, that scene is shit, and the only people who like it are degenerate weirdos

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 10:16:15 2014 No.4994491 >>4994402 you are so hip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEdYZxznGE&t=40s >dont forget to like the dude's fb page

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 10:25:47 2014 No.4994532 >>4994473 Stupid

Anonymous Tue Jun 10 10:35:26 2014 No.4994570

Tarantino's dialogue always seems like it was written by a teenage boy who had just discovered swear words. He can do interesting scenes (the bar scene in IG, the warehouse torture scene in Reservoir Dogs) but his dialogue is unbelievably clumsy and juvenile.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 16:19:46 2014 No.4995515 >>4994339 This. Pulp fiction was a masterpiece. He should go back to crime genre pieces exclusively. and begin to like godard again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 10 16:30:51 2014 No.4995546 >>4994570 Even though you are right, isn't immaturity and what-seems-like-amateurism what we go for so often? I mean Tao Lin on DFW are a tad far from Wilde's prose for example, and yet...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 00:41:41 2014 No.4997626 >>4994570 I couldn't finish Pulp Fiction for this exact reason. >This is a FUCKING good milkshake! jesus christ so corny

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 00:43:10 2014 No.4997632 >>4994307 I laughed way more than I should have, ya turkey.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 00:45:29 2014 No.4997640 >>4997626 Vincent isn't exactly the height of refinement, it's hardly out of character for him to be crude and juvenile. some people curse a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 00:50:23 2014 No.4997652 >>4997640 You are talking to an autistic, fat 19 year old who has never had a real friend and hates everything anyone likes by default.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 00:54:34 2014 No.4997672 >>4997652 >projecting this hard

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 02:45:39 2014 No.4998040

I think Inglorious Basterds is his best because it's probably his most restrained violence-wise, and spends a lot of time build suspense and plays around with that with little intercuts like Goebbels fucking his French handler for 2 seconds etc. Didn't get a good reception because the underlying message of "maybe the way we depict heroes and villains esp. in war films is juvenile and masturbatory" didn't sit well with Murricans OR progressives because nazis bad

Django is all kill whitey and its such a caricature that your garden variety progressive cant help but love it because guilt. I think it's definitely his laziest production and uses cartoonish violence as a crutch it's so prevalent with no downtime - it means nothing, we become desensitised. Not to mention the abortion of a third act pacing wise, the whole coming back to the mansion was awful.

His lower-class day to day dialogue is pretty unmatched in comparison to his contemporaries but it's good because its a slick caricature rather than accurate or realistic it's this hyper-real amalgam to borrow from Bauldrillard

Ehhh? >.< Nani, Satan-kun? v.v(...) Wed Jun 11 03:04:30 2014 No.4998070

>>4998040
Basterds is by far his best film imo, it's like the apogee of his creative achievement, and I don't think he'll ever come close to making something as good again. It's one of my favorite movies. It's just so bloody good. The narrative, the suspense, the characters, the atmosphere - everything is almost perfect.

*takes deep breath*

His other movies mostly are mediocre to decent, but the one thing he always does well is dialogue, so I agree with you there too. His films are all about style and that's what makes him worth watching, in most cases.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 03:24:41 2014 No.4998122 >>4994404 bitch has man hands

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:00:33 2014 No.4998469 >>4994339 Pulp Fiction was only pretty good though. The man is a fucking mess too and his politics seep way too much into his work now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:02:39 2014 No.4998474 >>4998469 In what sense? Unless this is a /pol/ thing and IB and DU having anti-Nazi and anti-slavery themes is bad to you or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:11:19 2014 No.4998489 File: 76 KB, 795x338, rachtmann-with-bat-on-head.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4998474 Not the guy you're talking to but I don't think IB had anti-nazi sentiments...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:13:43 2014 No.4998494 >>4998489 It's anti-Nazi but not anti-German.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:33:07 2014 No.4998531 File: 418 KB, 1449x1011, Tarantina a shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4994299 That should let you know I think he's a multiculturalist scumbag.

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:34:34 2014 No.4998535

>>4998494

You've not been paying attention. Apart from Hitler, every Nazi is a God-tier bro: honor, class, integrity, courage. Every Jew is a scumbag, every ally is a scumbag. The theater scene should have been more obvious to you: Germans laugh at violence on the screen, YOU laugh when Hitler gets killed. Get it now?

You're a fucking faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:38:47 2014 No.4998543 >>4998531 I hope to god my sweet-heart Cristoph Waltz doesn't play the oldman

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:41:46 2014 No.4998545

>>4998535
It's anti-war in general, rather than pro-Nazi. The heroine and protagonist, Shoshanna, is a Jew with a black lover. The only 'good' Nazi is the guy in >>4998489's picture, unless you count Zoller, who while a decent person at heart is also a spineless 'nice guy' who thinks Shoshanna owes him sex because he did her a favour she didn't ask for. And regardless, just because the Basterds themselves are sociopathic anti-heroes doesn't somehow elevate blatantly villainous characters like Hans Landa. The point of the film that you don't 'get' is that people on both sides of the war can be good or bad, and it's war itself that's the real villain - the characters to root for are the ones caught in the middle, like Shoshanna and the farmer who shelters her in the opening scene.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 06:50:04 2014 No.4998558 >>4998543 I can only hope this scene triggers white consciousness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 08:06:57 2014 No.4998658 >>4998531 Holy shit I've never read something so edgy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 15:03:50 2014 No.4999638 >>4994299 >He writes great dialogue He doesn't and he never did. His dialogue feels forced as shit and has no purpose or substance whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 15:05:47 2014 No.4999647 >>4999638 Are you implying that you can write better screenplays?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 15:19:06 2014 No.4999683 File: 93 KB, 251x245, i was born.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4999647 Yes obviously. >hurr you can only criticize if you can do better pls m8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 15:20:11 2014 No.4999685 File: 279 KB, 1280x683, 1380998338209.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4999683

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 15:20:35 2014 No.4999686 >>4999647 >>>/youtube/ >>>/reddit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 15:23:28 2014 No.4999690 >>4999647 I can't play anything but piano, but I can tell you when a guitarist is shit. That's a terrible argument and you should feel bad for lowering discourse to this level

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 20:59:55 2014 No.5000788
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Overrated.
At first his writing was funny at least, but it has turned into pretentious stuff (i.e. Inglorious Basterds) that isn't fresh anymore.
He's just the Weinsteins' spoiled child. If it wasn't for all the 15-year-old-minded guys who mumble about 'MUH COOL DIALOGUES AND POP REFERENCES' he would be considered what he really is: a John Carpenter tier filmmaker and not that kind of Film God everybody tries to shove up our asses. And hereby I declare that I've enjoyed a lot some of his films, but I'm not gonna worship him just because some friends of mine have a Pulp Fiction poster in their bedroom wall.

>inb4 hipster fag
>inb4 OMG you're such a hater

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:25:29 2014 No.5000877

>>4998040
Yes, I also like IB the most out of his films, I thought it examined cinema much more carefully than some of his other movies that are often hailed for their superficial self-awareness like Pulp Fiction. Despite all his juvenile antics I believe there is an intelligent man buried beneath the race-fetishism and ultraviolence, or at least a conscious one. He really wore his love for Godard on his sleeves with Basterds and I'm not necessarily the biggest fan of Godard either but I think he made a fun little commentary on American bloodlust that was loud and direct while not being too preachy or obnoxious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:32:20 2014 No.5000894 >>5000788 >John Carpenter Tier filmmaker Yeah hot opinions there >not that kind of Film God everybody tries to shove up our asses You mean Kubrick?

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:36:00 2014 No.5000900

>>4998531
I honestly think that Quentin Tarantino wants to fuck black guys. The rape scene in Pulp Fiction, all of Django, Shoshana's boyfriend, this right here -- he is sexually attracted to black men. It's too much to just chalk up as harmless wiggering, I think it's pretty clear he's harboring some sexual fantasies about blacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:41:06 2014 No.5000917 >>5000900 Explain Uma

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:42:41 2014 No.5000922 >>5000788 >John Carpenter tier filmmaker Uh. have you not seen Starman? That movie is fucking great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:49:46 2014 No.5000960 >>5000917 I'm not saying he only wants to fuck black guys, but there's definitely an interest

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:54:54 2014 No.5000978 >Not a single mention of Kill Bill or Natural Born Killers Come on fgts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 21:56:16 2014 No.5000980 >>4994351 so subtle you and every media hack in the reviewing business picked it up

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 22:01:08 2014 No.5000994

about django.... in that escene were he gets liberated, he tricks the character played by Tarantino and another old man.. by showing him the "most wanted" piece of paper.

Now if he was tortured and got naked in the ranch, why nobody took that paper from him!?.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 22:27:57 2014 No.5001066 >>5000978 i enjoyed kill bill until FX started playing it 100 times a year and it just happened to be the only thing on whenever my mom wanted to watch tv in our tiny house

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 22:30:37 2014 No.5001073 File: 84 KB, 450x570, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5000978 No mention of True Romance either....

Anonymous Wed Jun 11 22:47:26 2014 No.5001127

he doesn't write good dialog.

he's good at rambling like an autist and lifting things from other sources.

like that speech about the phrenology of negros in Django Unchained. I thought that was really interesting. Like he must have done a lot of research to write that speech-- oh wait, he just plagiarized it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 22:47:54 2014 No.5001129 File: 124 KB, 490x554, qt3.14.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4994404 >>4998122 He's into feet anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 01:19:55 2014 No.5001484 >>4994299 Kill Bill was really good. That's about all I have to say on that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 01:21:39 2014 No.5001489 >>5000978 >Craptual Born Wieners

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 04:50:02 2014 No.5001971 >>4994299 His first two or three movies were great. Everything he did after that was either average or terrible. I've never seen anyone go to shit so much in his career like Tarantino.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:13:35 2014 No.5002148 >>4999638 >no purpose Is fucking Tarantino dialogue becoming 2deep for modern /lit/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:34:51 2014 No.5002214 >>4994335 When someone brings up Tarantino why do you immediately jump to Django Unchained?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:35:40 2014 No.5002216 >>5002148 >let me lecture you for half an hour about Superman Apparently, that's 2deep for people?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:41:49 2014 No.5002220 >>5002216 Did that not have a purpose? It was Bill saying that Beatrix was never going to stop being a killer, which, seeing as she still goes through with her plan to kill him, he was right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:47:16 2014 No.5002228 >>5002214 Because it's his most recent film, not to mention one of his most popular?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:56:11 2014 No.5002248 >>5002220 Yes, and besides that it took wwwwaaaaay too long, where is that 2deep4anyone as the above poster implied?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 06:56:43 2014 No.5002250 >>5001971 >I've never seen anyone go to shit so much in his career like Tarantino. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Night_Shyamalan

Anonymous Thu Jun 12 07:05:35 2014 No.5002274

>>5002248
Anon1 was referring to how Anon2 said Tarantino's dialogue has never had substance or purpose in his whole career, which it has. So what Anon1 meant was more along the lines of
>You guys can't even see the purpose in Tarantino dialogue? What is it 2deep4u to understand basic Tarantino writing?
Not that it was actually deep in substance.
Sorry, if this is long-winded, I am absolute shit at explaining things with brevity

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 07:09:47 2014 No.5002287 >>4994299 We're not really discussing a mediocre, derivative "movies" (not film) director? Stay pleb lit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 07:10:24 2014 No.5002290 >>4999647 If there were a list of worst counter-arguments, this whole "bet ya couldn't do better!" thing would be in the top 5, I swear to God

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 07:19:07 2014 No.5002303 He relies SO much on the regurgitation of pop-culture to be interesting. I can understand throwing in some references now and then, but when you do it too much, you are just shamelessly trying to get to the common denominator

Anonymous Thu Jun 12 10:01:40 2014 No.5002542
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>>5000894
I didn't mention Kubrick at all. Go elsewhere with your logical fallacies.

>>5000922
I haven't seen Starman but I've watched a few Carpenter movies. Don't misunderstand me, the 'John Carpenter tier' thing wasn't an insult or anything like that. Big Trouble in Little China, They Live or The Thing are very enjoyable and funny movies.
I just think Tarantino is more like Carpenter; he's good and funny but not a 'Kurosawa tier'. I mean, look at every fucking list, ask your friends, etc. A lot of people consider Pulp Fiction one of the greatest movies EVER and it is not.
As I said, overrated, which doesn't mean necessarily bad; while some Carpenter movies are way underrated by filmfags.

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