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I'm looking for literature that centers around rape. Specifically from the rapist's point of view.

Any suggestions?

>> No.4960982

American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis

>> No.4960986

>>4960972
http://www.amazon.com/Natural-History-Rape-Biological-Coercion/dp/0262700832/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398444054&sr=8-1&keywords=A+Natural+History+of+Rape

This is a good one

>> No.4961000

A good question would also be, would a novel that centers on rape ever be published?

If i wrote a novel that depicts insane rape scenarios that i project through a fictional character, would anyone ever waste their time reading that depraved shit?

>> No.4961010

Read any history book.

>> No.4961014

Wasn't Atlas Shrugged full of rape?

>> No.4961040

>>4960982
I thought he was just a killer.

>>4960986
I want something that advocates rape, not suggests chemical castration.

>>4961000
I would if well written.

>>4961014
Only parts worth reading.

>> No.4961041

>>4961000

No. Seek help.

>> No.4961089

Rape seems a natural part of life to me. I really just don't understand how women who are raped claim that it ruins their lives.

It doesn't disfigure you or have any lasting consequences other than some emotional damage. If women controlled their feelings better than rape wouldn't be such a big deal.

>> No.4961129

>>4961089

Rape wasn´t that big of a deal in old times when it wasn´t considered a serious thing in general.

Nowadays its over sensationalized, so naturally, as woman are such emotional beings - immediately get it into their head that if they´re raped - their life is forever ruined.

>> No.4961326

anything by Peter Sotos, but good look finding them.

>> No.4961338

Rape is honestly not that bad. It's rarely fatal. Women have about a dozen mechanisms for accommodating it. It was a way of life until very recently, and it still is in many if not most places in the world.

It's like when cats fuck. The male deliberately rakes the female's pussy painfully and she flips her shit. If they developed super high culture they might stop doing that or something, but it's still normal. Not fatal, not generally harmful, normative. Rape is a cat penis.

>> No.4962597

>>4961089
>>4961326
>>4961338
wow

>> No.4962605

The obvious answer is Lolita.

>> No.4962616

The Collector by John Fowles is a story that elements of abuse, and abduction. It is also told from both sides. Perp and Victim.

>> No.4962621

Peter Sotos' books

>> No.4962641

The monk by Lewis

>> No.4962681

Have you read Lolita?

>> No.4962695

Sotos as mentioned before, but also Diary of Géza Csáth has some rapey POV stuff and was unlike Sotos's POV fiction quite real.

>> No.4962701

>>4961338
>>4961089
in that case can i stick it in your butt anons

>> No.4962706

Richardson's Clarissa, maybe?

>> No.4962712

>>4961089
where do you live? coming round to destroy your butt

in the words of doug Stanhope your asshole will be "winking like a Cyclops in a rainstorm"

>> No.4962732

>>4961089
The ironic thing is that everyone's rush to accommodate rape victims' victim complexes is what turns it into a thing in the first place. It just worsens with every generation.

>"I had sex and didn't want to"
>"OHHHHHHHH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I'M SO SORRY YOU'RE TRAUMATISED FOR LIFE OMFG DO YOU WANT ALL THIS ATTENTION AND TO MAKE YOU WHOLE LIFE FROM NOW ON ABOUT HOW YOU WERE RAPED AND GET INFINITE SYMPATHY BECAUSE A DICK WENT INTO YOU AND THIS IS SOMEHOW QUALITATIVELY THE WORST EVENT THAT CAN TRANSPIRE"
>"Wow, sure. I do feel pretty bad about it. That might distract me. AUGHHHH THE TRAUMA OH GOD"
>generation passes
>#3 is now baseline
>process repeats
>now playing a video game with a boob in it is rape

>> No.4962781

>~20 replies
>none mentions Sade
plebs

>> No.4962871

>>4962732

Man. People are such insightful authorities on the psychological history of our species around here. Humbling.

>> No.4962884

>>4962732
>>4961338
>>4961129
>>4961089
Jesus. What has happened to /lit/? When did it get so incredibly edgy?

>> No.4962891

>>4962884

when did you become so round?

>> No.4962898

>>4961338
>>4961089
>>4962732
Please be bait.
If not, you are some truly sheltered, very detached individuals, and you should seek help.

>> No.4962902

>>4961040
Why the hell do you want something that advocates rape?
Wouldn't something framed as a look into the depraved mind of a rapist through a first person narrative be more interesting than something that tries to show the rapist as an upstanding human being?

>> No.4962959

>>4960972
Damn, nigger, that's a fine-ass drawing. I've got The End of Alice on my to-read list. Looks like the kind of shite you're looking for.

>> No.4962978

Thomas Covenant

>> No.4962982

Arrival and Departure

>> No.4962987
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>>4962681
>>4962605

>> No.4962989

>>4961129
If it wasn't a big deal why were rapists given the most horrifying punishments in myth? Eg. Ajax the Lesser

>> No.4962992

>>4962989
Because property damage.

>> No.4963034

>>4962989

Ajax son of Oileus' punishment isn't for rape. The ancient Greeks didn't have a problem with rape. The Iliad kicks off with a violent dispute of who gets to keep the rape slave they took in the last raid. Ajax's crime is that he scorned Athena by raping Cassandra inside her temple, so she sunk his boat (but did not do shit to help Cassandra or punish Agamemnon, who wound up taking her home - though we see how well that worked out). He survived and then doubled down by claiming that not even the gods could kill him, so they killed the fuck out of him. Women were very much third-class individuals in ancient Greece and there are a LOT of Greek writers who clearly essentially regarded them as mostly worthless assholes who were worth fucking but not liking. It's not surprising that rape was less of a big deal to them.

>> No.4963090

>>4963034

Weren't those kinds of things strongly grounded in a tribal mentality, though? As in, there would be a very sharp difference in a Greek's attitude to a Greek soldier raping a foreign woman and his attitude to a slave raping the wife of a citizen, for example. Not much concept of a unified 'femininity' and 'masculinity', or at any rate very much subservient to 'Greek' and 'non-Greek'.

>> No.4963105

Hogg
>The plot features a silent pre-adolescent boy (called only "cocksucker") sold into sexual slavery to a rapist named "Hogg" Hargus, who exposes him to the most extreme acts of deviancy imaginable.

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>>4962891

>> No.4963355

>>4961040
You obviously won't find any novel that advocates rape, you fucking idiot.

>> No.4963359

>>4960972
Try sadpanda.

>> No.4963363

>>4963355

This just gave me an idea to start a new publishing company.

>that feel when entrepreneurial mind

>> No.4963425

>>4962884
My guess is summer. Yeah, yeah, moot said there is no significant increase of traffic during summer, but its not that. Its board migration.
i.e these idiots should go back to >>>/b/

>> No.4963483

>>4962884
Looks like someone has been away during the last 8 months. This board is the retarded offspring of /pol/ and /b/ now.

>> No.4963486

>>4963425
>i.e these idiots should go back to >>>/b/

Has this ever been said by someone who wasn't new

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4963489

>>4963359
I shouldn't be very proud of getting this.

>> No.4963582

>>4963486

Occasionally. But more often not.

I think you can say much the same for any site-specific insult, really, or at least any that involve little more than simply naming a board.

>> No.4964220

>>4963359
>what are we going to do on the bed oni-chan
>waaahhh
>pomf =3

>> No.4964281

>>4961089
It's because of social constructs and taboo.

We teach women that they should have complete control of their own body and so when it's forcefully taken from them they see it as degrading and humiliating because they're raised to believe that. It's kind of like how everyone here is grossed out at the thought of eating bugs but everyone in Asia is totally cool with it.

How stupid right?

>> No.4964304

>people who have never been raped talking about how it's "totally not that bad guys"

You're either a phycopath, or you have the mental maturity of a 6 year old

>> No.4964310

>>4964304
>phycopath

Mike Tyson, pls go

>> No.4964314

>>4964304
I don't think you have to be raped to observe the effects of rape.

That being sad, people saying that rape is not that bad are obviously idiots.

>> No.4964316

>>4960972
I remember reading a short story from Bukowski with a child rapist as the main character.

I don't remember where it appeared. Hot Water Music, perhaps.

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>>4962781
This.

>> No.4964323

>>4964304
this

You guys are talking like children. Of course, drunk sex and muh sexy ladies in video games/etc isn't rape. Actual rape is horrific and one of the worst tortures you can put through someone, male and female. Grow up, faggots.

>> No.4964329

The Bible

>> No.4964332

>>4960972
Mental Healthcare?

>> No.4964336

>>4964323
faggot detected

>> No.4964339

>>4964310
Who is a convicted rapist by the way.

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>>4960972
what the fuck guys. i mean really what the holy fuck. you didnt bring up

you should all kill yourselves. you should remove your collective heads out of your puckered assholes and reference this. my god.

>> No.4964512

>>4960972
>Specifically from the rapist's point of view.

That would be every from a male POV

>> No.4964524
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4964524

Rape is a spook.

>> No.4964730

>>4962898
This thread in a nutshell

>>4964524
That it is "normal" is a spook.