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Why does science fiction get no respect?

>> No.4939316
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>Harlan Ellison tried to track down the journalist 5 years later to crow at him about Sputnik

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>>4939316
thats nothing, after a college teacher called his work hopeless and advised him to never become a writer he spent _decades_ sending the guy a copy of everything he ever had published

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>>4939324

Never underestimate a teacher.

He probably said that, to have the student react in rebellion, and publish compulsively, until one day, as wiseness arose from the white hairs in his head, he realized the plot.

As he imagined the face of his teacher, smiling pleased to the display of dareness and stubbornness, the student suddenly felt the need of thanking the teacher.

Unfortunately, the teacher had passed away in the same moment the student realized it...

As he went to his home, he found all the books sent corrected, and a simple smiley at the end.

>> No.4939349

>>4939345
>to have the student react in rebellion
Harlan did indeed react
he punched him
knocked him out cold

>> No.4939352

>>4939349

Oh well, that's your story.
In mine the student actually learns something.

>> No.4939354

>>4939352
Harlan did
He became an acclaimed writer
And haunted the teacher for decades sending him everything he published

>> No.4939357

>>4939354

I guess, your not ready to understand >>4939345
Note it down, some day you might.

>> No.4939371

>>4939357
there was no lesson for Harlan to learn

>> No.4939372

>>4939371
>Oh well, that's your story.
>In mine the student actually learns something.

>> No.4939378

>>4939345
I like your story. I mean, obviously the teacher was just a stuffy, egotistical douchebag who wrote off Harlan for not matching his style, and Harlan got his revenge by living well - and constantly needling the teacher with reminders that he was living VERY well thanks to writing.

>> No.4939379

>>4939274

Because 90% of it is shit. Ellison is a prime example of that. There is as much science in most science fiction as there imagination in most fantasy.

>> No.4939383

>>4939379
>the point of science fiction is that it has to be about science
this is not 1952

>> No.4939395

>>4939378

That could be one of the plot lines, or one of the traits of personality of this character.

I find it more coherent to be one of those old ego less bastards, who teach you lessons for you to understand as you grow old.

I am pretty sure we can spot this specific typology of person if we do a retrospective survey of our lives.

>> No.4939401

>>4939379

Say what you will about Ellison, but The Deathbird, No Mouth, and Harlequin are all classics.

>> No.4939649

Nobody has answered the question

>> No.4939659

>>4939379
90% of anything is shit.

>> No.4939973

>>4939649
Has it? I thought Nobody never answered untrue questions.

>> No.4940000

>>4939379
>90% of it is shit

Funny how Sturgeon didn't include himself on that number.

Also, it's more like 99%. Lem, Strugatsky bros, Dick, LeGuin, Vonnegut and I guess that's that.