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Post novels written in the second person

>> No.4938820

Sherlock Holmes

>> No.4938824

If on a winter's night a traveler.

Read this book immediately OP. Weaver translation if you're not a dago.

>> No.4938838

>>4938824
ok i just ordered it from ebay cheers

>> No.4938863

>>4938824
are there even any other english translations to choose from?

>> No.4938888

>>4938795
The Fall was written in 1st person numbnuts.

>> No.4938894

>>4938888
no it wasn't

The whole thing is addressed to cher ami, who is a blank character for the reader to insert himself as

>> No.4938920

>>4938894
It is addressed to cher ami, but the entire time he is speaking in the first person, telling his personal story.

Writing in the 2nd person requires you to be the actor, like: "you did this. You walk up the stairs. You kill your cheating whore of a wife. The end"

>> No.4938921

>>4938920
>but the entire time he is speaking in the first person, telling his personal story.

He being that guy telling his story to cher ami. I can't remember his name, or if he's given a name.

>> No.4938929

>>4938894
>implying that you are the character spoken to
>implying I'm a lawyer from Paris

>> No.4938933

>>4938921
No.
I can't believe I have to explain this.
Every single third person or first person book, ever, is addressed to SOMEONE, and that someone is both who the speaker is speaking to (for example, the recipient of a letter) and also the actual reader.


Something in second person would be a choose your own adventure book, for example.

You come to a fork in the road, which way do you go?

>> No.4938946

>>4938933
Here's an excerpt from the novel:

I always considered myself more intelligent than
everyone else, as I’ve told you, but also more sensitive and more skillful, a crack shot, an
incomparable driver, a better lover. Even in the fields in which it was easy for me to verify my
inferiority—like tennis, for instance, in which I was but a passable partner—it was hard for me
not to think that, with a little time for practice,
I would surpass the best players. I admitted only
superiorities in me and this explained my good will and serenity. When I was concerned with
others, I was so out of pure condescension, in utter freedom, and all the credit went to me: my
self-esteem would go up a degree.

Along with a few other truths, I discovered these facts little by little in the period following
the evening I told you about. Not all at once nor very clearly. First I had to recover my memory.
By gradual digress I saw more clearly, I learned a little of what I knew. Until then I had always
been aided by an extraordinary ability to forget. I used to forget everything, beginning with my
resolutions. Fundamentally, nothing mattered. War, suicide, love, poverty got my attention, of
course, when circumstances forced me, but a courteous, superficial attention. At times, I would
pretend to get excited about some cause foreign to my daily life. But basically I didn’t really take
part in it except,
of course, when my freedom was thwarted. How can I express it? Everything
slid off—yes, just rolled off me.

The whole novel is structured like this. Conversationally, addressed to an ephemeral "you." Do you agree that that's a clear difference from traditional first person novels?

I think that makes it a second person novel

>> No.4938953

>>4938946
Epistolary novels use "you" as well, meaning the adressee, they aren't second person either

>> No.4938986

>>4938946
>>4938933
Christ, it's not the person you're addressing that determines if it is 1st or 2nd or 3rd, it is the way the story is told.

Addressing someone else does not mean you are speaking in the 2nd person.

The first paragraph of your post here:>>4938946 only has one use of the word "you" in it. 90% of it is told from the point of view of the other person in the story. I'm not denying that he is addressing the reader/cher ami/whomever you want to call "you." But whenever a story is told and all of the action is told through the lens of a person consistently using "I" then it becomes first person.

I can see how this book can be a little weird though because it is a strange way of writing. After all, what do you call a story written using a frame narrative in 3rd person but then when it gets to the large bulk of the novel is told in first person? Is the novel written in 3rd or 1st? If it is a story about a guy finding a book written in 3rd person, but 90% of the story is the story in that book which is first person, how do you classify that story?

I'm tired and doubt I've made much sense so I'm going to bed.

>> No.4938988

give yourself goosebumps

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>>4938988
>the fall
>it's 1st person hurr durr
>no uh, it is not
>hurr durr christ cock hurr durr 1st
>...
>...
>give yourself goosebumps
keked. This guy gets it

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4939585

This is the only one, other than Goosebumps and shit like that.

>> No.4939610

Carlos Fuentes - Aura

>> No.4939776

>Call me Ishmael.
>he's talking to you
>he's addressing the reader
>so it's second person

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4939790

hello, I'm the only user of /lit/ who understands what "a novel written in the second person" is.

>> No.4939792

Unrelated but...top 3 Camus ?

>> No.4939803

>>4939585
No, there's If on a winter's night a traveler, which OP said he was getting and you should too.

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