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4926048 No.4926048[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I am not only a great philosopher, but also a great writer. Why don't you discuss me more?

>> No.4926062

His entire philosophy can be summed up as "the grapes really are sour."

He is so plain that there is not much to discuss. He was also a hypocrite.

>> No.4926063

We're waiting for you to say you're done editing Arty baby.

>> No.4926066

'Cuz the Marxists don't like him and the Conservatives only have the patience to read that one essay (you know the one).

>> No.4926068

>>4926062
>I've never read The World as Will and Representation

could've just said that and saved yourself some words

>> No.4926072

>>4926048
I truly love Schops for his sentiments, but I think systematic philosophy doesn't really work anymore. Still, I read his essays and they help.

>> No.4926073

>>4926062

Well I can see you haven't read much of him. His classification as a pessimist is understandable but your comment is very... well stupid.

>> No.4926077

>>4926068
His conflation of Kant's noumenon with inner experience is unjustifiable.

>> No.4926080

>>4926048
How good of a writer are you compared to Kierkegarrd and Nietzsche? I like those a lot but haven't felt compelled to go with you yet

>> No.4926082

>>4926062
>the grapes are really sour
But anonkun, if the grapes drift silently in the wash of the boat, does Arthur even know she doesn't love him?

>> No.4926092

I refuse to believe that anybody who has actually read the Word as Will or Parerga and Paralipomena didn't have an enormous amount of fun and came away from the experience satisfied and in most cases changed.

>> No.4926097

>>4926066

I don't know the one, what is this one essay?

>> No.4926098

>>4926082
So many fun Schopey stories! I like the one where he threw the gossipy hag down a flight of stairs.

>> No.4926104

>>4926097
Probably On Women.

>> No.4926106

>>4926097
>>4926104

Yep.

>> No.4926107

>>4926104

Oh. Yeah, that one was kind of ridiculous. I had fun though.

>> No.4926114

>>4926104

but seriously though how do those of you who aren't sexist reconcile the shopes sexist views????

do any of you feel that he is right in what he says in On Women?

>> No.4926117

>>4926107
It pretty right, just one of the easier essays to paint as men vs women. If it's men v women, men are fucked because those bitches poker faces. I'm still waiting for a cuck/pol/d to view it that way.

>> No.4926138

>>4926114
He effectively recanted "On Women" immediately after an American sculptor named Elisabet Nay begged him to come to the US and sit for a bust. After she sculpted his bust, he said "women can become greater than men if they separate themselves from the mass." It's difficult to infer what he meant, but he may have ended his days as a female supremacist. i still think on women is mostly right, though ;)

>> No.4926149

>>4926092
The english versions read like fucking ass.


and nothing was changed. He had a retard philosophy like most philosophers.

>> No.4926150

>>4926114

I don't understand the question. Almost as if you have to agree with everything someone has ever written in order to admire or even 'follow' him.

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>>4926149

>> No.4926159

>>4926150

it's as if you don't think i expected that reply

it's as if you think that nullifies the question

it's as if you don't realize that i got a serious response

>> No.4926174

>>4926149
Fuck yes. I clicked on the first free English translation and had to get the German version out to understand how they were translating Vorstellung differently each time for no discernible reason.
Disagree on the stupid and like most philosophers, but I would recommend picking up an original copy and pounding out the meaning rather than relying on translations for WaWaR

>> No.4926201

>>4926174
I don't know which versions you've read, but E F J Payne's are magnificent and recommendable to anybody with an interest in Arthur. He produced authoritative versions of both versions of WWR and P&P, and also The Fourfold Root, so you can enjoy consistency and quality through the series.

>> No.4926213

>>4926080

Well, I'd say that Kierkegaard writes mostly literature to seduce and hint towards his philosophy, and Nietzsche's style too is sometimes poetry, proze, an aesthetic experience whicht hints at a certain big idea that is underlying.

Myself, I use great prose to carry my philosophy, which has priority. I'm as to the point and 'clear' as Kant (yes, Kant writes 'clear'), but I write beautifully none the less, making even the very difficult and complex understandable, more layered and enjoyable to swallow.

>> No.4926214

>>4926201
It was probably lib gen or gutenberg. I rage quit before finishing the introduction anyway. It's even more biting and lulzworthy when he switches languages on a point, so if you can read him in the original at all, go with that. I'm sorry I can't help with translators, I only have the Penguin editing of Essays and Aphorisms in hard copy. It is reasonably good, but I doubt they have the consistency you describe if you want to read beyond P&P

>> No.4926241

>>4926214
Payne's approach is to leave the original languages in tact and translate as a footnote, which is perfect. My copy of "The Two Fundamental Problems..." wasn't by Payne and the translator chose to entirely translate to English, which is okay but you really do lose the experience of reading a multi linguist.

>> No.4926248

where the fuck can i find all 3 volumes of The World as Will and Representation????????

>> No.4926254

>>4926248
in schopenhauers rotting dead full of puss vomting fucking worm ridden muddy ass fuckin stank corpse in germany

>> No.4926257

>>4926213
>Myself, I use great prose to carry my philosophy, which has priority. I'm as to the point and 'clear' as Kant (yes, Kant writes 'clear'), but I write beautifully none the less, making even the very difficult and complex understandable, more layered and enjoyable to swallow.

Post an excerpt, mate.

>> No.4926265

>>4926248
I thought there were only two volumes. For some reason when I was looking on amazon I couldn't find the two volumes from the same set or publisher. I ended up only buying the first volume which I'm only fifty pages into.

>> No.4926280

>>4926248
Available for free as an ebook on Amazon.

>> No.4926627

>>4926048
I read him a bit in highschool(not the best time to jump into philosophy esp. schope) i've since started a philosophy major in uni. and all i remember of him was that he said that people who became annoyed by repetitive noises were smarter, because ear nerves or some other 19th century bullshit, i stopped reading him after that . haven't read any since then although i need to. my highschool self didn't realize that some works belong to the time they were written in but some are timeless classics

>> No.4926682

>>4926627
>because ear nerves or some other 19th century bullshit
Except he was actually onto something there...
https://en.wikipedia.orgq/wiki/Highly_sensitive_person