/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.4897765]

ITT: god-tier writers/poets little known in foreign countries.

>pic related, Giacomo Leopardi

[Anonymous No.4897800]

>>4897765
Jean Racine
>alexandrine's master

[Anonymous No.4897824]

Rabindranath Tagore

[Anonymous No.4898101]

>>4897800
well known in Germany.

[Anonymous No.4898116]

>>4897765
Robert Browning

[Anonymous No.4898139]

>>4898101
Oh really ? And which translation is the most common ? (the one of Schiller I presume ?)

[Anonymous No.4898154]

>>4897800
Proust writes about him in In Search of Lost time.

[Anonymous No.4898218]

>>4897824
>little known

[Anonymous No.4898243]

>>4898218
>in other countries

[Anonymous No.4898522]

Guimarães Rosa.
Pretty much the Brazilian Joyce.

[Anonymous No.4898581]

Aaro Hellaakoski.
My humble opinion is that he was the greatest poet that ever lived.

[Anonymous No.4898593]

>>4898522
This is my favorite passage:

"Em cada foda que eu lhe dei a sua língua sem vergonha veio irrompendo através de seus lábios e se um lhe deu uma foda maior mais forte do que o habitual, peidos sujos de gordura veio cuspindo fora de seu traseiro. Você tinha uma bunda cheia de peidos, naquela noite, querida, e eu comi-los para fora de vocês, rapazes grandes de gordura, os longos ventosos, rápidas pequenas rachaduras alegre e um monte de minúsculos farties impertinentes que terminam em uma longa rajada de seu buraco. É maravilhoso transar com uma mulher peidando quando todos os diabos leva um fora dela. Eu acho que eu saberia peido de Nora em qualquer lugar. Eu acho que eu poderia escolher o dela em uma sala cheia de peidar mulheres. É um barulho em vez de menina não gosta do peido vento úmido que eu imagino mulheres gordas têm. É súbita e seco e sujo como o que uma garota ousada deixaria fora de diversão em um dormitório da escola à noite. Espero que Nora vai deixar fora nenhum fim de seus peidos na minha cara para que eu possa conhecer o seu cheiro também."

God-tier.

[Anonymous No.4898611]

>>4898522
I never ready any poetry by him, but Grande Sertão was god tier.

I'm still more of a Drummond man. I'm not completely ok with this translation but don't really have the time or urge to do one on my own now, so

Letter To Stalingrad
Stalingrad...

After Madrid and London, there are still great cities.
The world hasn't ended, for amidst the ruins
other men appear, the faces darkened by dust and gun powder
and the wild breath of freedom
opens their chests, Stalingrad,
their chests that burst and fall
while others, avengers, rise.
The poetry escaped from the books, they are now in newspapers.
The telegrams from Moscow repeat Homer.
But Homer is old. The telegrams sing a new world
which we, in the darkness, ignored.

We found it in you, destroyed city,
in the peace of your dead but not conformed streets.
In your breath, heavier than the explosion of bombs,
in your cold wish to resist.
To know you resist.
That while we sleep, eat and work, you resist.
That when we open the morning paper your name (in hidden
gold) will be firm on the headlines.
At cost of thousands of men, tanks and planes, but was worth it.
To know that you wake, Stalingrad,
upon our heads, our preventions and our confusing
and distant thoughts
give an immense comfort to a desperate soul
and doubtful heart.
Stalingrad, miserable pile of ruin, yet radiant!
The beautiful cities of the world stare at you in surprise and
silence.
Weak, in front of your dreadful power;
greedy, in your splendour of rescued marbles and rivers not
profaned,
the poor and careful cities, once glorious, defeated
without fight,
learn with you the movement of fire.
Also they can wait.
Stalingrad, so many hopes!
What flowers, crystals and songs your name pour over us!
What happiness blooms of your houses!
In one of them, only a stair full of corpses remains;
in others the gas pipe, the faucet, a child's bath.

There are no books to read, nor theatres open
not work in the factories,
everyone died, mutilated, the last defended black
pieces of wall,
but the life in you is stunning and hops like insects in the sun,
o my crazy Stalingrad!
The long distance I seek, smell the bloody
ruins,
touch the dismembered forms of your body,
walk alone in your streets where there are loose hands
and broken watches,
I feel you like a human creature, and what are you, Stalingrad,
but that?
A creature that will not die, that will fight
against the sky, the water, the metal; the creature fights,
against millions of arms and engines, the creature fights,
against the cold, the hunger, the night, against the death
the creature fights
and wins.
The cities may win, Stalingrad!
I think of the victory of the cities, that for now is only
smoke rising from the Volga.
I think of the healing of the cities, that will love and defend themselves
against everything.
On the ashy soil where cadavers decay
the great City of tomorrow will restore its Order.

[Anonymous No.4898622]

>>4898522
Do you recommend reading Grandes Sertões?

[Anonymous No.4898630]

>dfw nobody outside the us could give a shit

[Anonymous No.4898661]

> all boring dead white guys
How about bresking away from the usual cycle and giving us someone culturally relevant?

[Anonymous No.4898662]

Bruno Schulz
Street of Crocodiles is a masterpiece

[Anonymous No.4898673]

>>4898622
Not him, but yes, definitely, though I don't know how someone would translate it. Hope you're a portuguese speaker familiar enough with Minas Gerais' accent

[Anonymous No.4898692]

>>4898593
Obvious, but a few keks/10

[Anonymous No.4898761]

>>4898661
see porn comments on latest xhamster video, or where minorities do slam poetry. It'll matter in 200 years, guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.4898770]

>>4898661
>> all boring dead white guys
Kill yourself, faggot. At least white males can actually write.

[Anonymous No.4898774]

George Mackay Brown

[Anonymous No.4898779]

Dis nigga

[Anonymous No.4898838]

>>4897765

[Anonymous No.4898840]

>>4898661
Racist.

[Anonymous No.4898849]

>>4898838
>OMG I LYK POSTED A WELL KNOWN 1, SO FUNNY XDD
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.4898897]

>>4898661

0/10
try harder, shitlord

[Anonymous No.4898907]

ivo andric

beyond good

[Anonymous No.4898925]

>>4898661
Fine. Watch what happens.

[Anonymous No.4899653]

[Anonymous No.4899670]

>>4897824
Increasingly popular in the English speaking world.

>>4897800
lol

>>4898662
oh shut up

[Anonymous No.4899672]

>>4897765
leopardi is known

he's amazing tho

[Anonymous No.4899677]

>>4897765
I'd say Comte de Lautréamont is relatively unknown, but especially unknown outside of France, sadly.

[Anonymous No.4899683]

>>4897765
Clarice Lispector

[Anonymous No.4899693]

Always found Meryvyn Peak very underrated.

[your dreams destroyed No.4899700]

>>4899677
>>4899683
>>4899693
idiots

[Anonymous No.4899702]

>>4899700
no u

[Anonymous No.4899713]

>>4899677
hey look its fuckin rust cohle

[Ehhh? >.< Nani, Satan-kun? v.v(...) No.4899759]

>>4898522
Am intrigued.

I want to plug Luo Guanzhong and Cao Xueqin. They basically wrote the greatest epics in Chinese history, and both have good English translations.

[Anonymous No.4899770]

>>4897765
Zibaldone just got a full translation late last year and a lot of review coverage, though it's probably too sprawling to appeal to too many people

>>4897800
He's a tough sell to the English world accustomed to verbal range and plot flexibility of Shakespeare. Plus all the translations I've seen are dreadful affairs that ruin things by importing the rhyme

>>4898907
definitely agree

Ernst Junger is mine. English gets most of the good novels (if you can find them) - Storm of Steel, On Marble Cliffs, Eumeswil - but none of the journals and diaries where I think he's at his best.

[Anonymous No.4899789]

>>4898116
Same one who wrote My Last Duchess?

[Anonymous No.4900251]

Jules Laforgue
Tristan Corbierre
Aloysious Bertrand

[Anonymous No.4900286]

>>4900251
yep you got it.

[Anonymous No.4900305]

>>4899770

I doubt we'll see translations of his journals any time soon.
It's bad enough he joined the Nazi party (only to slack off and write books while in France) but his love and espousal of violence is too much for modern audiences.

[Anonymous No.4901650]

Olavo Bilac. We have a fantastic literature that can be compared to those of France and Russia but it remains mostly impenetrable by foreigners. I guess Portuguese translations always fuck things up.

[Anonymous No.4901671]

>>4898581

>he was the greatest poet that ever lived

would lol again

[Anonymous No.4902272]

>>4901650
True dat.

[Anonymous No.4904262]

>>4898907

What should i read by him? Other yugoslav authors?

[Anonymous No.4904286]

also fernando del paso and maybe julieta campos

[Anonymous No.4905357]

>>4897765
Ivo Andric

[Anonymous No.4905375]

>>4898838
Americans do know him because he became the subject of a shit-slinging contest between Nabokov and some nameless Russian literature academic WASPs. See:
http://voats.ucoz.ru/publ/klassiki_o_perevode/vladimir_nabokov_problems_of_translation_onegin_in_english/18-1-0-145
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1965/jul/15/the-strange-case-of-pushkin-and-nabokov/
http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/07/20/reviews/hofstadter-translation.html

[Anonymous No.4905388]

Guido Gozzano.

[Anonymous No.4905389]

>>4905375
Everybody knows him retard, it was just a bait

[Anonymous No.4905392]

>>4897765
Edmond Rostand

[Anonymous No.4905393]

Jakob van Hoddis

[Anonymous No.4905401]

>>4905389
You even know as a retard? Well, I clapped. And I shall have a hamburger in your honor.

[Anonymous No.4905414]

>>4905389
You even know him as a retard? Well, I clapped. And I shall have a hamburger in your honor.

[Anonymous No.4905422]

>>4905414
>You even know him as a retard?
Well this argument is senseless.
>hamburger
I'm just going to serve me a glass of Caverney Sauvignon, hamburger isn't really healthy.

[Anonymous No.4905429]

>>4898925
so since when is she a poet?

[Anonymous No.4905433]

>>4905422
>senseless.
so you are a ватник?
then let me rephrase it: You even know him FOR a retard?

[Anonymous No.4905435]

>>4901650
>olavo-bilac
>bilac
He could have gotten very popular in Eastern Europe.

[Anonymous No.4905443]

>>4905433
>ватник
Wut?
>You even know him FOR a retard?
>him
But who are you talking about ?

[Anonymous No.4905464]

>>4905443
Granpa Pikhto; Getting shot and killed with 37 years is one of the way to tell an obvious retard

[Anonymous No.4905479]

>>4905464
Are you fucking stupid?
Never said that Pushkin was a retard, idiot
>Everybody knows him retard, it was just a bait
If I wanted to, I should have say
"Everybody know this retard"

[Anonymous No.4905500]

>>4905479
Blame your poor level of English.

I'm not even that guy, but your "command" of the language is faulty, at best.

[Anonymous No.4905510]

>>4905479
Well, then you should have put a comma between "him" and "retard". I know punctuation is not in high favor on 4chan, but if you want other people to understand what you are trying to say you should abide by the rules of the language you've chosen to speak. What's more this is a literature board. You'll have a much more enjoyable time over here if you actually start reading books.

[Anonymous No.4905547]

>>4905510
>Everybody knows him retard, it was just a bait
If I want to talk about Pushkin, this sentence is wrong. But if I want to say that this guy :
>>4898838 is retarded, my sentence is right, comma or not.

[Anonymous No.4905659]

>Hristo Smirnenski
http://www.slovo.bg/old/f/en/smirn/
I wish his works were as good when translated in English as they are in Bulgarian.
A pity there are only few pieces of his work translated in English which are available on the net.

check:

THE TALE OF THE STAIRS

STREET-WALKER (which should actually be translated as Street woman)

THE TALE OF HONOUR

[Anonymous No.4905709]

>>4905659
can you provide them in the original Bulgarian? As a fellow slav I could probably read them but there is no way in hell I could guess what to google.

speaking of slavs, this is Ladislav Novak reciting the single most Slavic poem in existence:
http://ololo.fm/search/Ladislav+Novak/La+structure+phonetique+de+la+langue+tcheque
I won't post his picture because he was ugly. It was a Czech artist who thrived from 1962 to 1968 and then was forced to get a real job.

[Anonymous No.4905756]

>>4905709
http://www.slovo.bg/showauthor.php3?ID=50&LangID=1

Best ones:
http://www.slovo.bg/showwork.php3?AuID=50&WorkID=685&Level=1

http://www.slovo.bg/showwork.php3?AuID=50&WorkID=674&Level=2

http://www.slovo.bg/showwork.php3?AuID=50&WorkID=3052&Level=2

http://www.slovo.bg/showwork.php3?AuID=50&WorkID=3054&Level=2

http://www.slovo.bg/showwork.php3?AuID=50&WorkID=3108&Level=3

http://www.slovo.bg/showwork.php3?AuID=50&WorkID=3109&Level=3

http://www.slovo.bg/old/smirnenski/zimnivec.htm

[Anonymous No.4905960]

>>4899789
yep

[Anonymous No.4905967]

I wouldn't say god-tier, but Alejandro Dolina is a very good writer in my opinion, he writes short stories in the style of Borges and Calvino, but I don't think he's even been translated from spanish.

His radio show is god-tier, too.

[Anonymous No.4905985]

>>4905756
Add Geo Milev to that.

[Anonymous No.4906021]

Roy Campbell doesn't get much attention outside of British, South African and right-wing circles, which is a shame.

[Anonymous No.4906028]

Only time I've seen him mentioned on /lit/ is when I've been recommending his works.

[Anonymous No.4906033]

Tarjej Vesaas: Seen The Ice Palace listed on some recommendation image, but never seen his works actually discussed.

[Anonymous No.4906075]

>>4897765
God it was a bore to study this guy at school.
>tfw you could have studied hermeticism and futurism but the teacher thought Leopardi and Carducci were more important

[Anonymous No.4906121]

>>4899677
hes very famous among edgy autismal teens everywhere in the world actually

[Anonymous No.4906161]

>>4905985
he wins the thread through his looks alone

[Anonymous No.4906198]

>>4906121
This is true, Lautréamont is international edgecore.

[Anonymous No.4906201]

>>4905435
W-why?

[Anonymous No.4906205]

>>4905985
A Little Expressionist Calendar
and Septemvri are top tier lit.
His works for children are also of high value.
Almost as good as his daughter's poems lol

[Anonymous No.4906206]

>>4897765

Andre Nickatina

[Anonymous No.4906210]

>>4897765

Jack Kerouac

[Anonymous No.4906212]

>>4898761

Minorities who do slam poetry are the worst kind of minorities.

[Anonymous No.4906348]

>>4906212
no need to slam slam poetry. It's a brand. In France they have slam poetry evenings where swarthy Morrocans play the token African American who adds his funny underclass divertimento to the first world problems rap. In Germany they have a Turk. In Holland the Afro-person is usually Surinamese. That is the only kind of poetry that still has a broad appeal in the entire world. And minorities are a part of the show. It's a trope. If you don't like it then just stick to your Norton Anthology or whatnot. Not need smite people for living in their era.

[Anonymous No.4906416]

"Artist.... you know art descends from heaven. If you create a perfect work, a soul will come to inhabit it."

[Anonymous No.4906583]

>>4906021
Isn't that the guy from Metal Gear Solid?

[Anonymous No.4906629]

I don't know if he is known, but he has his wiki page in only four languages so he must be.

[Anonymous No.4907246]

Binem Heller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1q2sKbnwo

>>4905393
No, he is known. Weltenende is the first thing (or, after that morbid medic dude, the second) you say upon hearing of "German Expressionism". Now, what was that the Neinguar dude?
>...vor Hunger fraß den Drillingswurf,
>hat sterbend ihn erbrochen...

[Anonymous No.4907480]

>>4898116
Hang it all, Browning -there can be but one Sordello.

[Anonymous No.4908603]

>>4907246
>(or, after that morbid medic dude, the second)
Gottfried Benn

[Anonymous No.4908638]

>>4908603
>Gottfried Benn
You're an idiot. Benn is popular as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4908650]

>>4908638
I know, I was only adding the name to anon's description.

Though to name someone less known from that literary movement: Georg Trakl?

[Anonymous No.4908656]

>>4908650
>Georg Trakl?
Kind of. Anglo-Academics circle jerk him. Heidegger wrote about him, so most people discover Trakl via Heide. Trakl is god-tier poet. My favorite poet. I own his collected works. Practicing up on my german just so I can read him. Is he quite popular in german-speaking countries?

[Anonymous No.4908715]

>>4908656
>Is he quite popular in german-speaking countries?
I'm not quite sure, actually. I never really met people mentioning him, not even in university (studying german literature). German expressionism is my favourite poetry though, so maybe my views are biased, but I'd say he is rather unknown compared to people like Rilke, Heine, etc, but still one of the better known expresionist poets.

The best one in my opinion though is Georg Heym, my favourite poems being Heym's "Wolken", van Hoddis' "Nachtgesang", Oskar Loerke's "Die Ebene" and Gustav Sack's "Gott".
You don't really get to speak much about them on /lit/, it's a shame-

[Anonymous No.4908989]

>>4898662
>not posting Cynamonowe sklpey
im done with you pleb

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