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Communism or Individualist Anarchism?

>> No.4885100

The latter

>> No.4885116
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4885116

As a fan of Stockhausen's work, is this a good read?

go back to /mu/ btw

>> No.4885127

>>4885090
fuck stockhausen

he's interesting in concept but of little depth... unconceals less than the average pop song

>> No.4885135

>>4885090
Neither.

>> No.4885139

>>4885116
The first half is pretty interesting, he talks about his early life and influences. The 2nd half is just him talking about how he came up with pieces, which gets kind of boring. 6/10, Since you're already a fan of the stock you'll probably like it.

>>4885127
not true, btw

>> No.4885141

>>4885127
>muh anti-pop
fuck off pleb

>> No.4885149

>>4885141
>muh glib 'criticism'
>muh vulgar dismissal

>> No.4885157

>>4885149
>muh pointless categorization of responses
>muh equally pointless frustrated response to said pointless categorization
>muh endless escapist transcendencies
we ouraboros now

>> No.4885162

>>4885141
where'd you get anti-pop from my post

>> No.4885168

>>4885090
>not both

Egoist communism or nothing, pleb.

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>>4885090
>communism
shit economics

>individualist anarchism
impossible but enjoy your roam gangs of warlords


Monarchism above all

>> No.4885412

>>4885090
Both at the same time till we get it right.

>> No.4885423

>>4885157
9/10

You misspelled Ouroboros

>> No.4885427

individuo-collectivist world anarcho-fascist monarchy

>> No.4885430

>>4885411
God Save The Queen

>> No.4885431

>>4885411
This has to be a troll post.

>> No.4885432

>>4885411
>t. Monarcho-fascist

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>> No.4885460

>>4885090
Stalinism.

>> No.4885470

>>4885431
What about it do you think is 'trolling'?

>> No.4885489

>>4885090
Neither. Distributism, which is what pre-industrial America believed in. RIP.

>> No.4885498

>>4885411
Did you make that picture Evolakid?

>> No.4885504

>>4885498
yes

>> No.4885514

>>4885470
I shouldn't have to explain it. Participation in one's government is an altruistic spectrum, inevitably leading to some form of communal input, in a holistically beneficial approach.

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Personalism and Traditional Theory. Call Frankfurt School, I don't give a fuck.

>> No.4885555

>>4885514
I disagree, there is nothing beneficial from democracy. All democracy can do is slow systematic growth, through prolonging decisions, and put pressure on leaders to appease the majority of people, regardless if the majority are right or wrong, with quick solutions that have no long lasting benefits in an attempt to stay in power.

>> No.4885577

>>4885555
You are listing valid criticisms of parliamentary democracy, to be sure. But leaving all of the decisions in the hands of a centralized person results in mass warfare, which we have seen in the very interpersonal warfare of Kings and Chronicles and the various unsavory killings and mechanisms of control utilized in the Prince.

Clearly, a reversion is not necessary. The most optimal form of government at this point would be to progress from a greed-based system, which is a bureaucratic upgrade from the feudalism era, to a communist or communalist form of government.

>> No.4885605

>>4885577
You are making the false assumption that all monarchs would be expansionist and war-mongering. However, as they are groomed to lead from birth, it is only logical to give leadership of national affairs to someone who has been raised and taught to fulfil such a position.

If there were a 'communist' government, although communism is traditionally defined as sans central authority, it would simply be a totalitarian state lead by a number rather than an individual. Therefore all the claims against monarchy can be placed onto communistic government. If the government were to be elected then the criticisms of democracy still apply. Not only that, but if it were a democracy then it may well cease to be communist in the future, depending on the market. If it were anarchist, however, this criticism would apply >>4885459

>> No.4885623

>>4885577
This relies on "warfare always being bad" as an axiom. There are many benefits to waging war and labeling them all as "unsavory" is not valid.

>> No.4885625

Enlightened despotism is our only hope and it's quite hopeless in itself.

>> No.4885632

>>4885460
Only in the interim.

>> No.4887615

>>4885605
>Not only that, but if it were a democracy then it may well cease to be communist in the future
Communism is simply the most beneficial and unequivocal representation, nothing more. To be honest, it's kind of sad you took Evolakid's troll post seriously and he continued in his trolling ITT