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Why do fictional maps make us wet?

>> No.4869723

>>4869690
Couldn't tell ya boss. Though I'm creating a fictional fantasy world set in Efrica; a war rampant, disease ridden dystopia that the rest of my fantasy world ignores.

>> No.4869765
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4869765

>>4869690
Yeah it starts like that. And you don't know why.
Then all of a sudden you're jacking off to pic related.

>> No.4869795

>>4869690
it makes it seem real, gives a sense of adventure

>> No.4869816

>>4869723
>Efrica

I would change it's name, its too obvious.

>> No.4871238

>>4869816
>I would change it's name, its too obvious.

No, leave it. It's funnier that way.

>> No.4871281

>>4869795
probably this here

>> No.4871328

>>4871238
this

>> No.4871448

>>4869723
>I'm creating a fictional fantasy world set in Efrica; a war rampant, disease ridden dystopia that the rest of my fantasy world ignores.
Let me guess, 'Efrica' is populated by a savage race of beings called 'noggers'?

>> No.4871452

>>4871448
They prefer the term:
>bhosketball Hemerican

>> No.4871467

>>4871328
>>4871238
>lol look at how clever and witty I am

>> No.4871468

>>4871467
>look at how autistic I am

>> No.4871481

They actually make me cringe, similar to the uncanny valley effect. Like you can tell it's not natural.

>> No.4871496
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4871496

>>4871481

How does this make you feel?

>> No.4871507

>>4871468
>look at how clever and witty I am

>> No.4871518

>>4871496
They misspelled Efrica.

>> No.4871534

>>4869723
>war rampant
>rest of my fantasy world ignores
Doesn't fit so well together.

>> No.4871536

I recall hearing of a term for a particular sentiment.

This sentiment was nostalgia for a thing that never was and never could be. A key to an old chest which you never owned and never opened, and may never have seen at all. A locket with a picture torn out of the frame, found in your grandfather's cabin. A book title confabulated in a work of fiction; this last one is particularly moving in the context of fantasy readers. Where would genre fiction be without the Necronomicon, or the Red Book of Westmarch, or the second act of The King in Yellow, or the Jedi Code?

There is a certain sense of adventurous expectancy that the sight of an unattained and unattainable vista awakens. And when the vista seems attainable, but just out of reach, then those most inclined to fantasize do so. It is in the maps from fantasies that you see there are mountains beyond Mordor, where you know dark shadows and terrible secrets must lie, because ALL mountains hold old secrets, wonderful treasures and terrible dangers; Erebor and vanquished old Gondolin, the Goblin-Kingdoms of the Misty Mountains and Moria and Caradhras to the Cirith Ungol and the Sammath Naur. Through the story you have seen that places hold wonders, and you cannot help but think that further wonders must rest elsewhere. You want to see the sun rise over the Lake of Rhun, and see if any of the entwives still walk in the Brown Lands, crying their bitter tears over the ravages of Gorthaur. You want to watch the sun set over the Hills of Evendim, and walk the manses of the dwarves in the Iron Hills. You do not see these mountains beyond in the story itself, but you often see them on the map, and through the act of fantasy you see them also in your own imagination.

>> No.4871540

>>4871534
In the story, is Ghina attempting to colonize Efrica?

>> No.4871541
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4871541

>>4869765
niqqa pls i don't give a fuck that you live in the 12th century, that is one stupid ass map

seriously, how the fuck do you get the idea that a map like that is even remotely accurate

>> No.4871542

>>4871540
Too bad Hemerica came first.

>> No.4871543

>>4871541
It's a diagram.

Like a piping diagram or a wiring diagram.

It is useful in that it shows the relationships of things.

Asia on top of the world, vastly larger and more important than the comparatively minor Europa and Africa, all contained within the sphere of the world.

>> No.4871544

>>4871542
Don't forget the Jench and the Felgians.

>> No.4871546

>>4871543
but then it doesn't have much of a purpose, does it? unless you're mentally challenged

>> No.4871548

>>4871544
Who all were controlled by a race of long noses Kews!

>> No.4871562

>>4871546
Reminding Europeans of their rightful place as the least part of the bottom of the world is a very important purpose.

It's right there with reminding humans that the world is the center of the universe's gravitation and thus the Earth is the smallest and least of all spheres and contains all weight, sin, and leadenness, and is the furthest from Heaven, the sphere beyond the furthest stars to which all souls strive to return.

You don't want to turn the world upside down, do you? Europe on top, the Church in ruins, Earth holding some sphere equal to the stars, gravitation and sin permeating the outer stars themselves?

>> No.4871584

>>4871496
>oceano etiopico

>> No.4871597
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4871597

>>4871562
Don't forget that Jerusalem is literally in the middle of everything.

>> No.4872096

>>4871448
you mean block people, you ricist.

>> No.4872127

>>4871496
Sexy

>> No.4872138
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>>4871546
>why are schematizations helpful?

>> No.4873310
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4873310

>>4871597
The caption on top says:

The whole world in a leaf of clover / which is the coat of arms of hannover, my beloved fatherland

It's interesting, at least for me. The German style is a very oldfashioned.

Die gantze Welt in einem Kleberblat/Welches ist der Stadt Hannouer meines lieben Vaterlandes Wapen

There's also a kingdom melinde. I've never ever heard of it.

Other locations like Meiland, Welschland and Türcken make me snicker, I don't know why.

>> No.4873381

>>4873310
It's a port on Vasco da Gama's route it seems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gama_route_1.svg

http://ebooks.cambridge.org/chapter.jsf?bid=CBO9780511697494&cid=CBO9780511697494A028

This is where he might've gotten the spelling "Melinde" from:

http://books.google.de/books?id=I_dCAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PA289&ots=2W9H3aD8RE&dq=k%C3%B6ngreich%20melinde&hl=de&pg=PA290#v=onepage&q=k%C3%B6ngreich%20melinde&f=false

Or here:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gargantua_und_Pantagruel

http://books.google.de/books?id=9jU0AAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA289&ots=OPMOGXUb1Z&dq=k%C3%B6ngreich%20melinde&hl=de&pg=PA289#v=onepage&q=k%C3%B6ngreich%20melinde&f=false

>> No.4873393
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>> No.4873397

>>4873393


loled

>> No.4873436
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4873436

Seriously? Come on, guys.

Fictional maps are the biggest fantasy cliche since evil overlords. Books with them should be avoided at all costs.

Pic related. It's a terrible map from a self published fantasy book. I didn't bother to rotate it right-side up because neither did the author.

>> No.4873443

Because geography is beautiful.

>> No.4873452
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4873452

>>4873436
Yeah! Every book with a fictional map in the front sucks. No exceptions. None. At all.

>> No.4873458

>>4873452
>the biggest fantasy cliche

>> No.4873463

>>4869690
They don't for me.

Maybe I'm just not a faggot.

>> No.4873467

>>4873452
Just because Faulkner did it doesn't make it any less of a gimmick.

Can you believe that idiot actually wanted to use different colored fonts for The Sound and the Fury? Good thing his editor had some common sense and told him no, it would have made the whole book a god damn eyesore.

>> No.4873474
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4873474

>>4869690
>those unrealistic mountain lines
>no plate tectonics
>delta emptying into a bay

>> No.4873478

Efrica is now an epic may-may.

>> No.4873583

>>4873381
Danke Anon :3

>> No.4873719

>>4873467
It certainly would have made Benjy's section less confusing for first time readers. Perhaps if Faulkner had been able to include colored text in S&F it would be a staple of stream of consciousness literature today.

And I'm pretty sure the reason his editor told him no was because of the cost of colored ink, not because it would be an 'eyesore'.

Point is, there really is no tangible line between 'gimmick' and 'innovation'. Either it works or it doesn't for the reader. Fantasy maps obviously aid in immersion, so who cares