Agree?

[Anonymous No.4808408]

"But it's badly written!", I hear you cry. Um, hello? It's PORN. Whilst there is some pornography out there written with a deft stylistic hand – from Anais Nin and Henry Miller to Anne Rice's luscious, filthy Sleeping Beauty series – that's hardly the point, even if you don't buy Oglaf author Trudy Cooper's adage that "erotica just means porn that works for me." A dildo painted with an intricate lubricant-insoluble motif may look delightful, but a plain old rubber shocker gets the job done just as well. This book is porn. It is for wanking to. Pornography made for men is rarely judged on its artistic merits – the average 20-minute RedTube clip has hundreds of thousands of views and practically nobody leaves comments complaining that the lighting is garish, that the pounding cheese music is weird and unsettling"

-Laurie Penny.

[Anonymous No.4808415]

More or less, yes. I wouldn't necessarily say it that way but I don't think she's wrong.

[Anonymous No.4808419]

>>4808408
>implying that there is any music playing in porn these days

I miss the 90s...

[Anonymous No.4808441]

Yeah but neither do men become fanatical about one clip in particular, endlessly discussing it, filling the media with stories about it and recommending it to all their girlfriends and acting like it is a great masterpiece, their one true sexual awakening and liberation.

[Anonymous No.4808443]

>>4808441
I think Laurie Penny would argue that this is, in fact, just a sign of oppression of women etc etc in that porn for women is not as commonplace or produced in such quantities or as accepted for women to look at. So when something comes along it becomes really big for precisely that reason.

[Anonymous No.4808461]

>>4808408
>implying I don't complain about sub-par lighting and poor music choice all the time.
>not exclusively spilling your seed to the highest quality erotica
>not edging for 16 hours while you read a novel length f erotic literature

plebs

[Anonymous No.4808463]

>>4808441
>Yeah but neither do men become fanatical about one clip in particular
Lexi Belle anal scene. The whole internet went haywire.

[Anonymous No.4808465]

>>4808441
it's pretty funny that you're saying this on 4chan dot org, a website literally founded on the discussion of animated Japanese pornography

[Anonymous No.4808467]

>>4808465
but not founded on the discussion of one particular hentai movie.

[Anonymous No.4808468]

>>4808461
This.
>>4808441
And this.

The average /a/non spends hours debating 2D porn, but we don't make the mistake of believing it to be good movies.

[Anonymous No.4808473]

>>4808468
Who's saying that Fifty Shades of Grey is a good book?

It's certainly not Penny, who acknowledges it's a shitty book but who is defending it because she thinks it's good porn

[Anonymous No.4808474]

What a load of shit.

Redtube exists because porn is banned on Youtube. The only reason its judged against art is because its not attacked and denigrated like anything male and sexual is, banned from even appearing next to art. If this was treated the same, that book wouldn't be purchasable by minors, and would be hidden away in stores.

Norway's legalization of audio-visual porn? Happened when a woman made it, for women, and a stink was raised.

Examples of this hypocrisy go on and on. This is just an attempt by feminists to cry victim while ignoring actual discrimination against men. Fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.4808477]

>>4808474
lol, your gripe against feminism is that porn for men isn't respected enough or widely available enough? seriously?

lolling heartily

[Anonymous No.4808487]

>actually using phrases like "Um, hello?" in writing

what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4808488]

>>4808477
You're an idiot. You make my post look bad by association. Don't respond further. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4808490]

>>4808474
>not attacked and denigrated like anything male and sexual is

are you living in opposite world

[Anonymous No.4808493]

>>4808474
>Redtube exists because porn is banned on Youtube.

I thought that was tube8, no, youporn? or was it porntube, or youjizz. Or one of the thousands of other male oriented sites, containing millions of videos from a male perspective.

[Anonymous No.4808496]

>>4808487
That's why she has thousands of readers and you don't.

[Anonymous No.4808497]

>>4808493
it's not enough. it's never, never enough. only when they're literally airing hardcore pornography on the superbowl halftime show - only then will we have finally won our glorious victory over the feminists

[Anonymous No.4808505]

>>4808490
Yes, and furthermore, its taken seriously. This is why sites like Offbeatr exists, for instance. After feminists cried foul for a card game about tentacle rape. Meanwhile, a book that contains realistic rape themes is not even considered dangerous enough to avoid reviewing and say its not art.

The very association with men is what causes porn to even be called porn, and banned.

Meanwhile, feminists complain that their sexual desires are shamed instead of criminalized.

[Anonymous No.4808509]

>>4808505
porn is not banned or criminalized, though

[Anonymous No.4808516]

>>4808509
ask the brits

[Anonymous No.4808520]

>>4808509
Yes, it is. Children can buy Fifty Shades of Grey. People can sell it to children without going to jail.

Meanwhile, porn for boys is so dangerous it must be banned from them. This is the direct result of feminist jurisprudence and activism.

[Anonymous No.4808525]

>>4808509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ENpWjA7zBk

[Anonymous No.4808528]

>>4808505
>The very association with men is what causes porn to even be called porn, and banned.

The fact that male porn is called porn is because that's almost all the porn that exists

Fifty Shades of Grey doesn't have any rape in it. It's also a book, not a video. There are different rules. Children can go and buy American Psycho too but not buy the DVD.

Women are shamed in most parts of the world for pretty much any expression of their sexuality, and men are encouraged to express it and congratulated when they do. This is why women are raving about 50 Shades. It's the first time there has been some pornography for women that has become socially acceptable to talk about: ALL porn for men is socially acceptable to talk about.

[Anonymous No.4808529]

>>4808520
This has nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with our weird puritanical double standards where we react differently to text than to images. Like, when I was a boy, I could have bought or checked books out of the library that was full of graphic depictions of sex and practically pornographic. In fact, I did, and I'm sure a kid today could still do so. It has nothing to do with feminism.

[Anonymous No.4808538]

>>4808528
>ALL porn for men is socially acceptable to talk about.

not really

like, i can't go on the street and be talking about some double-penetration porno i just watched. at least, i would be treated as a super weirdo if i did. and rightly so. we should treat this stuff as shameful and hide it.

[Anonymous No.4808550]

>>4808525
this guy is so unfunny

[Anonymous No.4808559]

>>4808550
That made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.4808564]

>>4808559
i guess i'm funnier than that knobber then :P

[Anonymous No.4808566]

>>4808528
>men are encouraged to express it and congratulated when they do

Feminist myth. This has never been true.

Casanova was an anti-hero, his flaw was his sexuality. Even today men who act sexual are considered aggressive and worthy of being suspected of immorality. Even the hint of flirting with the wrong person in a bar is considered an excuse to get your shit kicked in.

First of all, the myth of non sexuality of women was pushed by feminists themselves. There's a reason its talked about in waves. Whenever one group of women oppresses another a new wave has to stop the bullshit of the last.

Oh boo hoo. Mommy told you shouldn't masturbate. That's a far better deal then being told masturbation is a source of violence against women.

[Anonymous No.4808570]

>>4808564
If only the people around you understood.

[Anonymous No.4808573]

>>4808566
>That's a far better deal then being told masturbation is a source of violence against women.
Literally nobody is told this nowadays. Boys who don't talk about wanking with their friends are considered weird. Porn and masturbation conversation is considered completely normal for boys, and it's the opposite for girls.

[Feminister !!F9QVQ82MjmE No.4808577]

What's up with all the Laurie Penny threads lately?

[Anonymous No.4808579]

>>4808577
Well, you know, we want to have sex with her, but then she also says things, and that pisses us off. So there's a lot of material for us to talk about as regards Laurie Penny here on /lit/