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I'm curious /lit/ who were the best writers who wrote in support of monarchies, preferably constitutional monarchies, in the face of republican ideas and revolutionaries?

>> No.4713730

conservatives were promoting t. Carlyle around here a while back, but I'm still not sure what his politics are

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>>4713725
this comes to mind

>> No.4713738

>in support of monarchies
No one notable.

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>> No.4713784

Hobbes is the best theorist/philosopher that I know of who wrote in support of monarchies, although his argument for monarchy, per se, isn't that good.

>> No.4713796

>>4713725
Maybe Schoppenhauer.

>> No.4713800

Sir Robert Filmer
Konstantin Pobedonostsev

>> No.4713838

>>4713725
Hegel, Schopenhauer, Voltaire

>> No.4713845

H.S. Maine I guess.

>> No.4713856

Edmund Burke, Samuel Johnson, Pope -- most of the English 18th century English tradition is constitutional monarchist...

>> No.4713877

Hegel was a fanboy for Constitutional Monarchy.
>>4713838
>Voltaire
Supported an enlightened egalitarian despot
>Schopenhauer
Supported a "limited power/government" which consisted of aristocracy/nobles. Jaspers was kinda similar in this way but more soft and egalitarian.

>> No.4713878

>>4713725
>that dick hilt mirroring his boner

fucking french faggots

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>>4713877
>Supported an enlightened egalitarian despot
>an enlightened egalitarian despot
>mfw

>> No.4713901

>>4713738
Plato was in favour of a form of aristocracy, and I suppose that's the closest I can think of. Otherwise this: >>4713738

>> No.4713902

The correct answer is Bossuet.

>> No.4713903

>>4713877
Voltaire was a complete hack. Probably the worst writer of all time. "Enlightened egalitarian", muh buzzwords.

>> No.4713905

>>4713903
Voltaire was a shit philosopher with completely uninteresting ideas but he was still a pretty good writer.

>> No.4713907

Kierkegaard. Kierkegaard was not too happy about the rabble and the sloganeering rabblerousers of the Printing Press taking over Europe; for good reason, because ever since the plebs took over everything good and beautiful has been slowly squeezed out of European culture, manners and art.

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>>4713725
Many of the bbooks on this list are in some form in favour of monarcy and other traditional forms of government.

Ignore the marks, those are just what I have read and what I intend to read.

>> No.4713909

>>4713905
No, his writing is effeminate "wittiness". He is a French Oscar Wilde, and a complete shill for the amoral Bourgeoisie that wanted to wreck all religion and morality in France. He was a spy, a revolutionary, and debauchee; he violated France and left her wasted and miserable. It would have been better if he had never written a word.

>> No.4713916

>>4713909
I grew bored in France -- and the main reason is that everyone here resembles Voltaire.
When Emerson wrote his Representatives of Humanity, he forgot Voltaire. He could have written an attractive chapter entitled: 'Voltaire, or the anti-poet' -- the king of nincompoops, the prince of the superficial, the anti-artist, the spokesmen of janitresses, the Father Gigogne of the editors of Siècle.
In his Lord Chesterfield's Ears, Voltaire pokes fun at that immortal soul who for nine months dwelt amidst excrement and urine. Like all idlers, Voltaire hated mystery.

-Baudelaire.

>> No.4713951

>>4713909
I bet you think Robespierre was "bad" as well.
Pleb

>> No.4713979

>>4713909
You know that the texts he is more known for were just meant to entertain him and his friends, don't you? What he considered his life's work were mostly tragedies of the most serious kind.

And considering the man himself, he was a provocator with a shitty temper

>> No.4714023

>>4713951
Feel free to tell me how he wasn't. He got too big for his britches, and attempted suicide because he didnt want to face the same fate he put countless others in.

He did do a lot and I assume you can argue that the ends justified the means.

I do love the irony of his execution being a silent one.

I wonder what his last words wouldve been if he had the ability to speak.

>> No.4714034

>>4713909
>Rousseaufags
Not even once.

>> No.4714043

Hitler

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>>4714023
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orv1kmkiEpk
They simply bowed to the general will of the public and were aware of their duty as missionaries of progress.

>> No.4714066

Shakespeare, Milton

>> No.4714099

>>4713909

This would apply, I would argue, to all French "philosophers" since the 18th century. They're all a bunch of fucking degenerate abortions of human beings with absolutely nothing remotely interesting to say.

>> No.4714514

>>4713908

OP here, thanks.

Are there any good collections of the conservatives who wrote against the more radical french revolutionaries?

Also, I would think some of the Romanticists favored monarchical systems.

>> No.4714524

>>4714099
This would apply, I would argue, to all tripfags since 2003.

>> No.4716335

Frithjof Schuon I believe once said "the worst king is better than the best president."

>> No.4716506
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Edmund Burke, definitely. Pic related.

Robespierre wasn't all bad. He didn't support many of the later trials and executions of harmless aristocrats, like the sister of Louis XVI and a bunch of old-ass women who died with her. Although oddly enough the king's sister was more in support of aggressive anti-revolutionary policies ("If at this moment the king has not the necessary sternness to cut off at least three heads, all is lost ") while Louis XVI and his wife had to be pushed and pushed into even agreeing to an armed conference that would tell the government to respect the monarchy "or else."

>> No.4716546

>>4716506

Robespierre probably had a good heart I think, but compromised too much of his own beliefs to the point where he became just a shell of the ideologue he was before.