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Are the greeks or germans better philosophers?

>> No.4694874

Greeks because my dad named me Archimedes. hand on a pile of dog shit I'm telling the truth. it was only when I got to the age of fifteen I began to realise how cool that is. the psychological damage of being mocked and bullied by kids who were probably just intimidated by my families intelligence and well read-ness scarred me for life though.

so yeah, my namesake being Greek is my only argument.

also I come across as really pretentious, don't I?

>> No.4694872

Deutschland über alles

>> No.4694883

>>4694855
hard to say because a lot of greek texts are lost

>> No.4694881

THEY WERE DIFFERENT BETWEEN AND AMONG THEMSELVES; BETWEEN "GREEKS", AND "GERMANS", ONE CANNOT BE JUDGED IN RELATION TO THE OTHER; THEY ARE INCOMPARABLE.

>> No.4694891

>>4694855
Greeks, easily. It isn't even close.

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>>4694874

>> No.4694897

>>4694874
Not until you asked

>> No.4694906

>no Stirner
Germans confirmed for being shit at making lists.

>> No.4694909

>>4694906
Well, he was never much of a team player

>> No.4694955

>>4694906
>lists
It's the team roster you fucking retard piece of shit.

>> No.4695007

OFFICIAL PHILOSOPHER POWER RANKINGS INDISPUTABLE:

1. HERACLITUS
2. NIETZSCHE
3. HEIDEGGER
4. LAO TZU
5. ARISTOTLE
6. SCHOPENHAUER
7. HOLDERLIN
8. KIERKEGAARD
9. DIOGENES
.
....
.....
........
9001. RUSSEL
90001. HEGEL
900001. PLATO
9000001. DERRIDA
90000000001. THE DEMONIC SOCRATES

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>>4695007
>no Parmenides

>> No.4695081

The Germans of course.

Greek tragedy and sculpture is basically the apotheosis of art though

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>>4695081
>Greek tragedy and sculpture is basically the apotheosis of art though
Oh dear.

>> No.4695126

>>4695100
deep inside you know its true
the simple beauty and strength, the dreamlike images and nuanced symbols

>> No.4695132

>>4695126
lol pffffffffft

19th century Germany called they want their Hellas-Fetishismus back

>> No.4695138

>>4695100
>anything other than pic related
>the apotheosis of art

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>>4695138
fuck

>> No.4695143

>>4695126
I'll be the first to argue its exceptionalism, but to call it the apotheosis of art...I don't think that even exists in such broad terms. Pretty silly to categorize in such a way.

>> No.4695145

>>4695132
alright m8 what period and region are the greatest in your mind

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>>4695138
Pic related, it's a high point in human artistic achievement

>> No.4695150

>>4695145
German Idealism as such is basically the pinnacle of philosophy, the importance of which comes to fruition in Negative Dialectics and psychoanalysis

I guess Heraclitus is p. cool since you know he's the Anfang des spekulativen Denkens

>> No.4695154

>>4695145
or are we talking about art? then idk the truth content of the work of art is historical so idk

>> No.4695157

>>4695142
definitely the height of the 'classical' tradition along with Bach

But I don't think that tradition aspired to as much as others have. It was limited to its doctrine of the sacred, which while plentiful, is a bit confining.

Unfortunately Wagner and co. didn't create anything near as great after they tore it down.

>> No.4695156

>>4695007

you're a literal faggot. Worst list ever

>> No.4695164

>>4695157
Exactly, being the apotheosis.

>> No.4695177

>>4695154
>the truth content of the work of art is historical
Are you a post-modernist

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>>4695177
no man i am the pinnacle of modernism, at least i still talk about truth and falsity with respect to works of art

>> No.4695185

I am the apotheosis of art, come at me.

>> No.4695186

>tfw Library of Congress cataloguing has Spinoza on his own in the Dutch philosophy section

>> No.4695189

>>4695178
thats better I suppose
I dont see why a modernist needs to be all historically contextual

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>>4695189
dude modernism is all about the entrance of history into mind.

>> No.4695200

>>4695189
lol

>> No.4695203

FRANCE!

>> No.4695206

>>4695194
modernism(if it can be defined at all) is about tearing down ideals and finding something substantial underneath the construct

why can't periods of art and individual pieces be greater than others? the relation of art to the individual and society is of course historical but the skill with which the artist worked in this background isn't necessarily

>> No.4695222

>>4694909

I'm sorry, but you're an absolute pooface.

>> No.4695258

>>4695142
Fuck off Ame.

>> No.4695436

>>4694855
>Are the greeks or germans better philosophers?

If you think this question you've entirely missed the point of philosophy.

>> No.4696010

>>4695007
>Hölderlin
>a philosopher

>> No.4696013

>>4695186
whaddabout erasmus?

>> No.4696106

>>4695007
disgusting

>> No.4696826

>>4694874
Literally a boy named sue.

>> No.4697844

they are different philosophers.

if you want to compare the greeks you would have to do it with india.

if you want to compare the germans...well, maybe the english.

>> No.4699337

>>4697844
then Injuns>inventors of buttfucking
and
german uber limeys