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469085 No.469085 [Reply] [Original]

do you think that holocaust was a bad thing all in all?

i'm read here they were destroying western culture. in universities with marxism and in public with hollywood cinema. he's quoting nietzsche on that. what do you think about the jews?

>> No.469093
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469093

>i'm read here they were destroying western culture

>> No.469097

/lit/ - Pretentiousness

>> No.469107

>do you think that holocaust was a bad thing all in all?

I don't know, how could the industrial slaughter of human beings ever be a bad thing?
Jews were obviously degrading and destroying western civilization, just like how all Germans are Nazis and every single American is morbidly obese. Fuck off.

>> No.469110

>>469093
you cannot chide me for being german. without us there would be no IBM and without IBM there would be no internet.

>> No.469112

>>469097
even the trolls, even the trolls

>> No.469183
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>I don't know, how could the industrial slaughter of human beings ever be a bad thing?
it's bad if it's done in public like the aztecs or the spanish inquisition. i don't want smelly semites piling up in my hometown. it's all a matter of taste in the end.
>Jews were obviously degrading and destroying western civilization, just like how all Germans are Nazis and every single American is morbidly obese.
ok, fine. there were good jews. solomon oppenheimer, for instance, or leo strauss ... and jesus christ. you can't deny that the average american could provide more soap than some 1940s polish jews.

>> No.469212

The Jews have upheld civilization, despite being so universally loathed by superstitious decerebrates who are the ones actually destroying civilization

>> No.469246
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>>469212
of course we loathe the barbarians who don't belong to our civilisation. you're jewish, i take it.

>> No.469268

>>469110
>We made the internet, hurrr

>> No.469276

>>469268
we even made the diesel engine. and alot more than that. we revived classical culture and philosophy. we gave cynical europe ideals!

>> No.469313

still most of America is true to it's roots and what remains of the Jewish race is now bound to a petty nationalism like the rest of us. The left is reduced to a dispersed gang of hippie hypocrites who cannot pose a real danger to the western civilisation.
Oswald Spengler would have been happy with the results.

>> No.469327

>>469246

I'm a real white man and my people founded America.

What kind of mud race are you? Irish? Italian? Some kind of degenerate Slav?

What ever you are, I know that I am better than you.

>> No.469404

>>469327
who spoke about races, anon? you're the first one to do so in this very thread.

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469408

This thread sucks.

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>>469408
Commodus sucks

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>>469097

Yes, Rosenberg was indeed pretentious... and pedantic.

>> No.469460

holy shit, get out of /lit/

>> No.469466

>>469183

According to OP's book, Jesus wasn't a Jew.

>> No.469469

>>469460
why? is /lit/ reserved for cultural bolshevism? who is to blame? Herbert Marcuse?

>> No.469479

>>469469
The thing is, I would honestly be okay if a straight-up fascist were posting on here, or if we were discussing things like Spengler or even Rosenberg. But this thread is just stupid, it's full of /b/-style racism and dumbness.

>> No.469488

>>469479
Well, do create some Kultur, if you have the right race.

>> No.469489

Rosenberg had no friends inside the party or out, and hardly anyone bothered to finish reading his book. He started off as the codifier of a philosophy, and ended as a forgotten relic in a do-nothing, going-nowhere position.

In the long run, dude ain't that significant.

>> No.469491

>>469488
I don't believe those things and I don't want to advocate them - just trying to explain my problem with this thread

>> No.469496

racism is neither funny nor intriguing. i have no idea why you would troll with it.

>> No.469513

>>469489
Rosenberg is the bridge between the Russian civil war and Weimar era rightwing insurrection. He was the first to publish and distribute the Tsarist brand of antisemitism in German while Hitler and Goebbels were but a couple of talking heads.

>> No.469519

For shit sake, at least learn how to fucking type in English before you try to troll in it.

>> No.469522

>>469496
how many negroes have got a nobel's? how many jews have created a great painting during the renaissance? how many chantards got medals from the olympics?

>> No.469537

What do you think about the cultural policies of Zimbabwe?

>> No.469544

Spinoza alone is reason to respect the Juice.

>> No.469546

>>469522
i dont know bro.

>> No.469562

sagey sage sage

>> No.469572

>>469544
Benedict Spinoza was actually attacked by a Jew and barely killed. I'm sure you'll find better examples than that.

>> No.469576

>>469572

But he was also a Jew himself... so your point is?

>> No.469590

>>469576
if you love them for spinoza you must hate them for trying to stab him as well. and for the excommunication. that is a very jewish thing to do.

>> No.469598

They really weren't trying to destroy Western culture, you read too much 4chan.

--BUT--

Even if they were (which again, they were not) it doesn't justify using Henry Ford's formula for making cars to instead kill an entire race of people. I guess the threatening of one culture justify eliminating another in OP's mind?

>> No.469613

>>469590

They were afraid the Catholics were going to smoke their collective asses for his writing, so they disowned him.

Waddya gonna do

>> No.469620

>>469598
>Henry Ford
would have been proud
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ijtoc_.htm

>> No.469625

Why the hell do any of you like Spinoza?

Seriously, what part of his doctrines do you agree with?

>> No.469627

>>469598
>instead kill an entire race of people
that's an insidious insinuation.

>> No.469628

>>469620

Well that sucks.

>> No.469632

>>469625
a like his smartass atheism. it's classy lol

>> No.469633

>>469627
what part of that statement do you disagree with? do you deny that the intent of the Nazis was to exterminate the Jewish race, in addition to other motives?

>> No.469634

>>469598

You have to understand that from their point of view, Jewish culture is inherently parasitic. They have no homeland and have to roam across the world, living in enclaves. They refuse to assimilate (even though in Germany they were the most assimilated out of any European country lol, but then again, that's clearly just a case of them being "sneaky"). They look out for their own before any others and have monopolies on the banks.

The core tenets of international finance were believed to be created by Jews for the express purpose of exploiting gentiles.

It was not enough for the Nazis to merely exile the Jews. There was no place on earth far enough away to safely quarantine them. They had to be destroyed... every man, woman and child.

AND THEN you have a completely detached but parallel belief that the Jew's genetics are inherently inferior to the average German and that just by existing, they're dragging down the human gene pool - throwing off the average, so to speak.

One is based on ignorance and misconception, the other is ridiculous pseudoscience. They make for a nasty cocktail together.

>> No.469635

>>469627

Jewish populations in Eastern Europe were almost completely wiped out. For how fucked up their goal was, the Nazi's did a pretty good job in such a short timespan.

>> No.469640

>>469633
they didn't exterminate a race. stop being racist!

>> No.469653

>>469613
Your words are silly, but you appear to understand ghetto jew hivemind. read their poison book 'Talmud'

>> No.469656
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469656

Germans are barbarians. They always have been, and they always will be. There is nothing desirable to be found in a Teuton except bravery in battle, and that is a direct product of their inability to accept a superior culture when it is presented to them.

>> No.469662

>>469656

They make some pretty quality shit.

>> No.469667

>>469634
>It was not enough for the Nazis to merely exile the Jews.
they were to be exiled to madagascar as you know. but in 1941 the german elites realised they couldn't win the war and still they wanted to keep all the aryanised property.
but that isn't theory, that is reality. we aren't historians but literates and fiction is our credo. jewish world bolshevism is the topic. Is it dead yet? who is a bigger enemy of our civilisation? bolshevism or islamism?

>> No.469668

>>469656
This is typical 4chan nonsense. it sounds like you have a patchy understanding of history and read too many comic books.

>> No.469674

>>469668

No, I'm being facetious and speaking through the guise of a racist ancient Roman. Also, I hate comic books.

>> No.469681

Why would an ancient roman prefer raging zealots to naked barbarians?

>> No.469687

>>469681

Didn't say anything about Egyptians bro, don't jump ahead.

>> No.469686

>>469674
But have you read Watchmen? It's a serious, philosophical piece of literature for serious, philosophical thinkers.

>> No.469693

>>469668
>>469674
>>469686
I'm from /co/ and I think you all have no goddamn idea what you are talking about

>> No.469695

>>469687
>Egyptians
furry fandom incest... eww.

>> No.469698

>>469667

The war didn't really turn until Stalingrad in 1942-43. The Germans were probably doing their best in 41.

>> No.469716

I find the Japanese fascinating as well, because their ideology, as nebulous as it was, was essentially a contradiction. They wanted to expand their empire and enslave Asia, but they also created the myth (both for domestic and foreign consumption) that they were freeing Asia from Western imperialism. The result was the establishment of a series of puppet governments that traded with Japan in a exploitative one-way sort of fashion, thus creating a sort of "invisible" empire (except everyone knew what was going on).

>> No.469755

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>>469698
I'm just saying what i read in Erinnerungen eines Soldaten, the memoirs of an important german general. the mood in the oberkommando der wehrmacht and in the high society in general wasn't exactly as euphoric as amongst the plebs.

they expected to get outproduced and they got outproduced. even if they managed to get paulus out of stalingrad, they'd still be drowned in soviet tanks.

>> No.469768

>>469716
>domestic and foreign consumption
>ideology
where are you from? i like that distinction.

>> No.469772

>>469758
I think the point was that the decision to go to the final solution came before the Germans lost confident in an ultimate victory over Russia - indeed, it came before it seemed at all likely that Germany would lose. Don't have access to any source documents re: final decision, but Germans were advancing into Soviet Union through early December, and it seems to me that up through July certainly and possibly into September or October any German general would have thought victory very likely (which it was). They were certainly willing enough to go into war - they trusted Hitler. And IIRC the final solution would have started already before that.

>> No.469785

>>469772

Yes, the Wansee conference, for example, was in the winter of 41-42 just as Op. Barbarossa grind to a final halt. That conference was for the coordination of a decision that had already been made for the mass murder. 42 to 43 then was the machine revving up to full throttle.

>> No.469801

and why did they do it?
>the Germans
we should avoid throwing the Germans and their leaders in one pot.

>> No.469821

The holocaust is awful shit. If it didn't exist, we might not have had Saul Bellows, Michael Chabon, Phillip Roth, etc etc. On the other hand, if it didn't exist AND all Jews are that talented, we could be buried in incredible novelists.

>> No.469848

it's not that bad. it gave us Elie Wiesel, Anne Frank and Primo Levi. Why do we complain?

>> No.469858

Hitler was a bad author. Do you know about any good authors becoming genocidal dictators? style is a fine indicator of decency in my opinion.

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ITT: Succesful troll is succesful.

Will /lit/ ever learn to ignore trolls? I certainly hope so.

>> No.470058

>>469801
/Hitler's Willing Executioners/ and the literature on police battalion social composition and actions much?

>> No.470058,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>469634
Like you would know a lick of actual "science", you fucking pseudo-intellectual tweed-jacket wearing fuck.