/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.4690816]

who are you heroes? Which people, real or fictional inspire you in how you want to live your life?

mine is pic related

[Anonymous No.4690827]

>>4690816
adolf hitler

[Anonymous No.4690837]

>>4690827
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.4690839]

>>4690816
Not Gregory Peck

[Anonymous No.4690846]

Papa Jean-Luc Picard

[Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ No.4690857]

I admire a few

[Anonymous No.4690937]

bamp

[Anonymous No.4691044]

well ideally my life would go like colonel aureliano buendia.

[Anonymous No.4691051]

>>4690816
He was living proof that reading a lot of books doesn't necessarily make you intelligent.

[Anonymous No.4691083]

Hunter S. Thompson

[Anonymous No.4691105]

Evgeny Morozov

The only person who knows remotely what the fuck is up with the innanet.

The chemo to John Green.

[Anonymous No.4691194]

1. hunter thompson
2. duane peters
3. andy kaufman
4. tom green

[Anonymous No.4691285]

Mad Jack Churchill
Megas Alexandros
Vasily Zaytsev

[Anonymous No.4691305]

Real:
>Anteo Zamboni
>Alexandre Jacob
>Jules Bonnot
>Vassilis Palaiokostas

Fictional:
>Mashiba Ryou
>Definitely some others I can't think of right now

[Anonymous No.4691544]

This thread has made me realize I have no heroes.

[Anonymous No.4691946]

>>4691544
heroes are a social constrct

[Anonymous No.4694876]

>>4690816
FDR>TR

[Anonymous No.4694888]

Lil B

He takes the best parts of Hedonism and Religious Existentialism and uses them for satirical hip-hop. Really I just want to be as #based as possible.

[Anonymous No.4694894]

>>4694876
FDR=A fucking fascist

[Anonymous No.4694895]

>>4691194
The Master of Disaster rocks

We hanged with him when the US Bombs came to my town, and I shit you not, he drinks his hi fis like this:

4 shots of vodka
A glass of orange juice

Drink a shot, swallow it, drink a sip of juice

He never told me why

[Anonymous No.4694907]

>>4691305
Why I'm not seeing my husbandu on that list?

[Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ No.4694912]

>>4694894
Are you nuts?

Call him a schemer, or a racist even, but he wasn't a fascist. The fascist went to work as soon as they heard he died.

[Anonymous No.4695120]

>>4690816

As a kid it was Steve Irwin. For a long time after I got over him there wasn't really anyone, but recently I've been going through all of Vonnegut's work and watching interviews and such. I'm not here enough to know what /lit/ thinks of him, but I think he's really hilarious and his books are excellent. Not my favirote writer in terms of actual written works, but as a person himself he's at the top by far.

Being a writer seems like an incredibly lonely thing to me - not so much the life, because it seems like you can lead a perfectly normal life even as a popular writer, but being remembered is terrifying to me. It's my dream but it's scares the shit out of me. Something about your entire life being remembered in a snippet that kids in an English class read alongside one of your stories. Major events in your life will be brought up as fun facts that friends chat about. Even if your name is brought up in every classroom for a hundred years, even if there's thousands of people who research and study your life, it's just a ghost trapped in words. I don't know how to explain it but the idea is creepy to me.

But somehow Vonnegut totally cancels out that feeling for me. His books feel less like a grainy film reel an unknown deceased family member left for you, and more like reading witty letters from a beloved uncle while sitting in the sun room of the beach house he left you. The film reel is how I feel about most literature; it's fascinating and vaguely eerie, and too much of it is really fucking lonely.

I don't even know what I'm trying to explain at this point. I like Vonnegut's books and his personality, he seemed to live as fun and meaningful of a life as someone could live and I admire his sense of humor towards the absurd more than anything.

[Anonymous No.4695152]

Harry S. Truman

[Anonymous No.4695172]

>>4694894
If he was a fascist, he was the greatest fascist of all time.

[Anonymous No.4695271]

>>4690837
>T. Roosevelt
>Not most fedora
Ha, ha. Oh, wow.

[Anonymous No.4695740]

>>4695120
Please be a woman. Please let me marry you.

[Anonymous No.4695766]

>>4695152
interesting choice, why Truman?

[Anonymous No.4695834]

>>4695766
He knew how to treat the damn yellows

[Anonymous No.4696092]

Merlin
Nassredin Hodja

[Anonymous No.4696102]

>>4696092
Oh, and Jean Jaurès

[Anonymous No.4696108]

Thomas Paine
Ryan Sheckler

[Anonymous No.4696111]

Micheal wollabeck

[Anonymous No.4696121]

Snoop Dogg

[Anonymous No.4696123]

[Anonymous No.4696128]

Real: Hitchens
Fictional: Pic related

[Anonymous No.4696130]

Cormac McCarthy and Hemingway made me want to be a writer. Akira Kurosawa taught me the importance of standing by your vision and never giving in to other people's demands if they compromise that vision.

As for fictional people, there aren't really any characters that resonate with me. I can relate to a lot of Murakami's protagonists, but I don't consider them to be "inspirational". Mainly because I'm already an introverted dullard.

[Anonymous No.4696167]

Plato

He's awesome

[Anonymous No.4696189]

I am inspired by anyone who does whatever the want, whether or not I agree with them. Diogenes, Julius Caesar, Napolean, Genghis Khan, etc

Hitler also falls into this category, because even though I disagree with the specifics of his actions and motives, I respect him for his charisma, and his drive to accomplish his goals

[Anonymous No.4696194]

>>4696189 here again

>>4696128
as far as fictional characters go, I like Feanor a lot, which is I guess related to Beren

[Anonymous No.4696202]

>>4690816

[Anonymous No.4696203]

>>4696202
I don't know if you mean Herring or Christ, but that was a great stand up show.

[Anonymous No.4696207]

Mussolini. If you actually read his biography (expecially the end of his life) its depressing and inspiring as hell. Truly good person who did the best he could in a bad situation, doesn't even get remembered for any of it.

[Anonymous No.4696221]

>>4696207
That sounds biased as fuck, everything that I know about WW2 contradicts Mussolini being a decent man.

[Anonymous No.4696242]

[Anonymous No.4696933]

Richard Sharpe

[Anonymous No.4696982]

Cl-cl-Claudius here.

I know Graves fictionalized him to fuck, but there's something so endearing about him, obsessed with executions or not.

[Anonymous No.4696991]

>>4696982
>Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.4697011]

>>4696207
Which biography? I'd like to read this.

[Anonymous No.4697092]

[Anonymous No.4697104]

>>4696933

I wish I could read the Sharpe books but the time period is just so boring to me. Uhtred is my man.

[Anonymous No.4697132]

Julian the Apostate
Marcus Aurelius
Both Catos

I have a major boner for roman history, mediterranean paganism and stoicism.

[Anonymous No.4697150]

>>4690816

My is on the pic: William Shakespeare.
Why?

His language is the most inventive, beautiful and awe-inspiring in the world. Hi is, by far, the greatest poet of all time. I have read almost all of the English poets, and of the poets of my native language (Portuguese), as well as Spanish poets. I have read the Italians (Leopardi, Dante), the French (I’m a Rimbaud fan), the Germans (Goethe, Heine, Schiller, Hölderin), the Greeks (Homer, Hesiod, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides, Sappho, Anacreon, Alcman, Pindar), the Latin (Virgil, Horace, Lucretius, Ovid), the Russians…hell, I have even read the Japanese (Ono no Komachi, Basho, Hitomaro, the folk songs of the kojiki and Man’yoshu), the Chinese (Li Bai and Du Fu) and the Indian (Kalidasa, Tagore, the ancient epics), always searching for the same metaphorical feast and imagistic orgy of Shakespeare’s work, but in vain: nobody has ever done the same with words. Nabokov is right when he says that “The verbal poetical texture of Shakespeare is the greatest the world has known, and is immensely superior to the structure of his plays as plays” and Stephe Booth: “Shakespeare is our most underrated poet. It should not be necessary to say that, but it is. We generally acknowledge Shakespeare’s poetic superiority to other candidates for greatest poet in English, but doing that is comparable to saying that King Kong is bigger than other monkeys. The difference between Shakespeare’s abilities with language and those even of Milton, Chaucer, or Ben Jonson is immense.”. This guys is the greatest master of language of all human history.

Also: he managed to lead a calm and steady successful business like life. He saw his art as work, and tried to maintain a routine of productivity. He was able to prosper with his craft, and did not search for problems in politics and other stupid things. It seems that he lead a peaceful life, integrated with the community, even trying to be socially important. I like the marriage between and extreme artistic power and a normal private life.

[Anonymous No.4697423]

>>4695740
Uh, no not a woman at all. Did it sound like that?

[Anonymous No.4697429]

I don't have any

le existential crisis face

[Anonymous No.4697456]

>>4697429
well heroes are a social construct after all

[Anonymous No.4697506]

my mom and dad. my 5th grade teacher. she was caring and played acoustic guitar for us while we read. maybe j.s. bach. he was the most sophisticated musical mind yet he wasn't pretentious and wasn't temperamental throwing artistic hissy fits like idiots do nowadays that are compulsory extreme this or that.

[Anonymous No.4697539]

[Anonymous No.4697562]

>>4697539
Mah nigga

[Anonymous No.4697576]

real: Dawkings
fictional: Jesus

[Anonymous No.4697585]

I don't have many famous heroes. mostly personal role models

[Anonymous No.4697603]

>>4690816
No man is a hero to his biographer.

[Anonymous No.4697606]

>>4697576
9/10, made me rage a bit at the misspelling and inconsistency. lel

[Anonymous No.4697610]

>>4697539
6/10, minus two for unoriginal.

[Anonymous No.4697618]

Stalin

If I ever achieve even half of what he did it would have been a good life.

[This thread No.4697638]

>>4697618

[Anonymous No.4697732]

>>4697150
They had us trudge through a couple of his plays in high school, and I didn't get much out of them. Your gushing makes me want to give him another go, and I feel ready this time. Where would you recommend starting for some of ol' Billy's truly sublime verse?

[Anonymous No.4697748]

>>4695120
Nice! Vonnegut is wonderful. I get the same feeling when I read the poetry of Hafez, like he's an intimate friend who knows me well and left a bunch of richly transcendent post-it notes around the house for me to find.

rec: a collection called "The Gift," translated by Daniel Ladinsky

[Anonymous No.4697757]

>>4697618
Stalin really was a boss,he went from being an impoverished Georgian orphan to one of the most powerful men in the world.

[Anonymous No.4697768]

>>4697757
>one of the most powerful men in the world.
Probably the most powerful, no?

The United States could be a more powerful country, but there's no way a single person held so much power in it as Stalin did with the USSR.

[Anonymous No.4697788]

>>4697768
True, I hadn't considered it that way

[Anonymous No.4697796]

>>4691044
What a man he was.

Pic sort of related. The whole heroic side of Makhno. Him as a great humanist, peasant reformer, revolutionary and so.

[Anonymous No.4697804]

>>4695120
What do you think about the "Vonnegut was a cold asshole trying to seem like that nice uncle in order to sell book" interpretation of his personality?

[Anonymous No.4697828]

Karl XII of Sweden

His stoicism, single-mindedness and brilliance are a constant source of inspiration for me. Known for his abstinance of alcohol and women, for being totally incapable of fear and being a brilliant military commander.

Lenin, Rousseau, Danton and Patrick Leigh Fermor are also up there.

[Anonymous No.4697839]

>>4697828
I'll attend his death march this year.

[Anonymous No.4697854]

>>4697804
I think if he was such a cold asshole he'd have a lot of trouble writing the way he did. And I don't think it's that easy to fake sincerity.

Where can I find this interpretation? If it's legit I'll be disappointed but won't deny it.

[Anonymous No.4697957]

>>4696189
Raskolnikov go back to russia

[Anonymous No.4698091]

Roland Deschain Of Gilead

Fight for Justice. Fight for Good. Never Surrender. No
matter what. Always push on. No matter what. Reach your goal, no matter what.

Damn that sounded cheesy as all hell and there's no way I'll ever be able to live up to it, but that's what heroes are I think.

[Anonymous No.4698310]

Ramsay Bolton (Not Snow, never Snow). He taught me that it is okay to be who you are, and that, though some people may try to stop you, maybe even hate you, as long as you stick to your principles, and just try to enjoy life the way you want to, everything will turn out okay for you.

[Anonymous No.4698318]

>>4695120
I can't explain why but your post almost made me tear up and i have no idea why since it was basically about nothing. Please become a writer dude, i'm not being sarcastic.

[Anonymous No.4698319]

Leo Tolstoy
Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.4698326]

Philosophize with a Hammer brahs

[Anonymous No.4698361]

>>4698318
Yo, thanks friend, I don't know how good it really was but you just made my day.

[Anonymous No.4698389]

>>4698310
Oh you

[Anonymous No.4698927]

>>4697732

One good way to have a general view of his metaphorical capacity is to read this book: "Shakespeare's Imagery", by Caroline Spurgeon. She collects and separates Shakespeare's metaphors and similes by subject, which is very helpful. The real book, Spurgeon's opinion and conclusions, is not really the important thing: what matters is that she presents several great imagistic moments of Shakespeare's body of work.

But if you want to start reading some plays, I guess that the ones that sure presents wonderful imagery are:

Macbeth in tragedy

A Midsummer Night Dream and The Tempest in comedy

Henry IV, parts 1 and 2 in History.

But that's a personal choice.

Another great book about the language of Shakespeare is "Shakespeare's Language", by Frank Kermode. You wont regret the reading.

[Anonymous No.4699097]

[Anonymous No.4699268]

>>4695152

>dead ass broke with no college education, a failed business and no job prospects by his late thirties

>Decides to go into politics

>Becomes President like less then ten years later

He was also probably one of the most honest men in american history, especially for a President. Never said something he didn't mean. Never tried to use presidency for personal wealth. Didn't give a fuck about what people thought of him, always did what he thought was right. He's by no means perfect, but truly an example of an honest and honorable man IMO

[Anonymous No.4699295]

>>4699268
but those nukes tho. bad decision IMO. shouldn't have been dropped. They should have staged a demonstration for the Japanese emperor.

[Anonymous No.4699328]

>>4699295

I hate to apologize for him, but in his defense he was thrust into the middle of a war after FDR died and he basically didn't know shit about what was going on. Like literally i'm pretty sure he didn't even know nukes existed or at the very least what they were capable of doing. He was basically sat down and told by all the military generals that dropping the bomb would end the war, so he did and the war ended.

[Anonymous No.4699365]

I wouldn't call him "my hero" anymore, but as a teen Bob Dylan was someone I adored.

[Anonymous No.4699372]

>>4699328
He didn't even know the US had a nuclear program. When he became president the generals were like "we should drop the bomb" and he was like "what bomb?"

[Anonymous No.4699392]

Real : Cato the Younger. Not a single dude will ever be this awesome, his strength of character and allegiance to anti-corruption is unmatched.

Fictional : The Dude. He's like, you know, far out man.

[Anonymous No.4701579]

>>4697828
>his abstinance of alcohol and women

[Anonymous No.4701586]

Goethe's Faust. I can relate my entire life to this guy, exept for the devil being my gymbuddy.

[Anonymous No.4701619]

>>4697828
>Brilliant commander

Mate. That is just wrong. Sure, he had an inspiring effect on his men, but the heavy lifting was done by subordinate generals like Rehnskjöld. He seemed to be filled with a certain arrogance, that led to his final downfall.

[Anonymous No.4701639]

king solomon

[Anonymous No.4701740]

Shakespeare, Beckett, Goethe, Frank Zappa, Alan Watts, Alejandro Jodorowsky, Walter Benjamin, Robert Anton Wilson, Carl Jung, Cortázar, Eduardo Galeano, José Saramago, Ken Kesey, Krishnamurti, Robert Crumb, Moebius, John Cage, Robert Louis Stevenson, Pablo Neruda, Confucius, M.C. Escher, Beethoven, Picasso, Gurdjeff, Ingmar Bergman, Nietzsche, Charles Darwin, Kierkegaard, Albert Einstein, Fernando Pessoa, Bertolt Brecht, Brüegel, Van Gogh, Bill Waterson, Richard Williams (animator), Dostoevsky, Bach, Andrei Tarkovsky, Zhuangzhi, Mark Twain, Werner Herzog, Marina Abramovich, Robert Capa, Magritte, Orson Welles, Joseph Campbell, Akira Kurosawa, Michelangelo, Winsor McCay, Bruce Lee, Italo Calvino, Gustave Doré, Glenn Gould, Erasmus, André Gide, Buddy Guy, Matisse, King Wen, Saussure and Zizek.

[Anonymous No.4701881]

>>4701740
>Jodo
>Moebius

I like you, for those and many others

[Anonymous No.4701884]

She reminds me that no matter how bad things get, God only blesses those who bless themselves.

[Anonymous No.4701890]

Rules to live by:

1. It's only your's if you have the power to prevent ANYONE from taking it from you
2. It's only their's (and not your's) if they have the power to prevent you from taking it from them
3. It's not murder if it's a savage.

[Anonymous No.4701896]

>>4691194

good list except for Tom Green. come on man!

[Anonymous No.4701907]

>>4697092

Not Mandela or Tyson MFW

[Anonymous No.4701919]

>>4697854
>I don't think that easy to fake sincerity.

All meaning is brought to the work by you.
You project your idea of sincerity on to the work. Someone else could just as easily think it is not.

[Anonymous No.4701930]

TR is also one of my heroes, simply because he's such a strong argument against anti-intellectualism. He's remembered as a sportsman, an outdoorsman, a champion of the 'strenuous life,' but he was also a voracious reader, a deep thinker, and a pretty good writer. He's proof that you can cultivate both your body and your mind, and both can blossom.

Also, St. Gregory the Great is a bit of a hero of mine, because he too was both a man of the world and a man of letters. Basically, anyone who could wield both pen and sword is a hero of mine. So I guess Caesar qualifies too.

[Anonymous No.4701939]

>>4697618
>someone who murdered people for no reason other than that he suspected they were deceiving him
>hero

pick one

[Anonymous No.4701949]

>>4701939
watch out everyone we got a historian here

[Anonymous No.4701953]

>>4701896
Tom Green is excellent in the same vein as Doug Stanhope in that he would do anything to make you laugh or cringe, and that means anything. It's the principle as porn dude. Primal entertainment.

[Anonymous No.4701971]

>>4701919
That's true, but sincerity isn't entirely subjective, especially when we're talking about body language. And Vonnegut regularly gave speeches, interviews and taught classes.

[Anonymous No.4701989]

[Anonymous No.4702008]

>>4696221
what was so bad about him?

[Anonymous No.4702011]

>>4697456
>>4691946
will you fuck off with that

[Anonymous No.4702013]

>>4701949
>>4697618
communist faggots. come on

[Anonymous No.4702015]

Real: Adolf Hitler, Ed Gein, Aleister Crowley, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, Josef Stalin, Chuck Palahniuk, De Sade, Pinochet, Genghis Khan, Hunter Thompson, Breivik, Ozzy Osbourne, Gaspar Noé.

Fictional: Lucifer, Tyler Durden, The Joker.

[Anonymous No.4702022]

>>4702015
>Edgy McCedgerson over here

but actually seems like a decent list

[Anonymous No.4702025]

>>4702022
He is clearly joking. By actually finding it decent, you are officially the edgiest of the thread.

[Anonymous No.4702052]

>>4702025
This. Making that guy further retarded because not only is he the guy who calls everything edgy; he does it for no reason z

[Anonymous No.4702109]

>>4701939
>let me make tasty omelets without breaking the eggs

[Anonymous No.4702164]

>>4701890
You must like Stirner.

[Anonymous No.4702208]

>>4701939
A suspicion of betrayal is among the most justified reasons to end someone's life ever.

And Stalin was cool as fuck, as was Mao, as was Napoleon, as was Ceasar, as was Hitler. You just don't get to those levels without having some sort of undeniable awesomeness about you.

[Anonymous No.4702265]

>>4690816

I admire all of you, magnificent bastards / bastardettes.

[Anonymous No.4702291]

Socrates(if he existed and was the person plato made him out to be)
Miranda cosgrove

[Anonymous No.4702330]

James Knox Polk.
Few men have risen to power and accomplished as much as he did in so little time.

[Anonymous No.4702374]

>>4702208
legitimate suspicions of betrayal, sure, but stalin was just a paranoid fuck. you can't be paranoid and cool.

[Anonymous No.4702378]

>> 4690837
> Jesus
"Single Jewish Male, early 30s (looks 25) br/br, facial hair, seeks nice Palestinian Jewish female for long-term relationship. Employed as a teacher, but enjoys woodworking, fishing, and water sports in my time off. Strong believer in universal health care, equal rights for women, minorities and individuals with disabilities and feeding the hungry. Friends say that I’m kind, compassionate, fun at parties (can turn water into wine) and that I look good in a loin cloth. Raised with small-town values, I come from a non-traditional family (one mother, two fathers). Favorite meal: Broken bread with a cup of wine. Interested in long-term relationship only. Fundamentalists are a huge turn-off and need not apply."

[Anonymous No.4702393]

>>4702291
I'd be amazed if Socrates was just someone that Plato made up.

[Anonymous No.4702512]

>>4702374
Paranoia comes included when you're the most powerful man on earth.

[Anonymous No.4702551]

>>4702291
>>4702393
It doesn't matter, the figure of Socrates exists, that's enough.