/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.4690699]

What is the essential socialistcore, /lit/?

Obviously you have Marx and Paine, and then Orwell and London.

What else would make the list?

[Anonymous No.4690722]

>>4690699
>Obviously you have Marx and Paine, and then Orwell and London.
>socialistcore

Out of those its Marx only. Everyone ought really to touch Marx, Anarchism in general, Leninism (provided that you explain that its wrong, ha ha, my little joke).

>essential
Not much is essential. And for Marx it'd really only be the findings in wages price and profit. And you can be exposed to them without reading Marx himself.

Leninism is so widespread that it needs to be responded to.

Anarchism likewise (in the broad sense, including in the libcoms). Anarchism and Leninism are the two surviving tendencies of politics dealing with workers.

Essential is a bad way to approach this. Why do you want a reading list? If you give me a purpose, I can give you a list.

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Well...

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[Anonymous No.4690739]

John Rawls

[Anonymous No.4690784]

>>4690722

So basically you're using this poor anon's thread to propagate your own views instead of actually giving recommendations ?

OP: http://www.marxists.org/archive/

[Anonymous No.4690813]

Charles Fourier
Proudhon

[Anonymous No.4690822]

>>4690699
I don't agree with this guy about much else in his post but he's right that out of that list the only "socialistcore" is Marx. London was a writer foremost, not a socialist writer of note in that sense. At best you can say the same for Orwell as well, but it's my own view that Orwell wasn't a socialist at all, given his cooperation with the British state informing on Communists, his ardent opposition to the Soviet state, etc. Of course, you're free to make your own judgements, but even my political views aside I wouldn't say Orwell is very essential anyway.

It does depend what you're looking for. Are you just surveying the literature or do you have an interest in the stuff practically?

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>>4690813
>Proudhon
Is he anarchist? So we're just naming leftists now?

[Anonymous No.4690870]

Upton Sinclair

[Anonymous No.4690880]

>>4690836
shutup namefag

[Anonymous No.4690901]

>>4690784
>So basically you're using this poor anon's thread to propagate your own views instead of actually giving recommendations ?
Do you know what the word "essential" means? It is a very strong word.

I expect anyone with 12 months to understand (broadly), the wage and value; something about Leninist organising; something about libertarian organising.

That's what I mean by "essential."

Fuck me you seppo cunt.

[Anonymous No.4690906]

>>4690901

Settle on you victorian fuckhead, I'm just saying give him some actual titles or resources instead of being an obscurant cunt.

[Anonymous No.4690905]

>>4690699
Socialism: the last refugee camp for white trash.

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>>4690906
Marx Wages Price and Profit
Lenin What is to be done
Rühle From the Bourgeois to the Proletarian Revolution

That's sufficient to boot someone to deal with revolution, Leninist organising and Libertarian organising.

Now fuck off. Maybe if OP answered my fucking question about why he wants a reading list I could give him non essential texts that suit their reading level, level of involvement and interest, and kind of interest. If OP is a radfem, then I'm going to suggest Butler on performativity because I enjoy being cruel to radical feminists. But otherwise I'm not going to raise Butler am I?

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[Anonymous No.4690945]

>>4690905
/lit/: the last refugee camp for /pol/ trash, evidently

[Anonymous No.4690948]

>>4690942

Now look how fucking hard that was.

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[Anonymous No.4690955]

>>4690948
>Now look how fucking hard that was.
Its fucking hard because of the issue of what texts really are essential. Now I enjoy Federici as much as the next man; but I'm not exactly going to suggest that EVERY SINGLE CLASS WARRIOR really needs to read Federici am I?

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[Anonymous No.4690961]

>>4690955

Apparently you are, albeit in a subtle way.

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[Anonymous No.4691004]

>>4691001
thats a fucking great book

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>>4690961
>Apparently you are, albeit in a subtle way.
Not really. I'm not going to fucking throw a fit if someone hasn't read an obscure Italian marxist's semi-doctrinaire autonomist history of the creation of race and gender in early capitalism.

I rarely advocate what I believe people should read to struggle on /lit/ because unless we're face to face there's no point. /lit/ isn't a site of circulating solidarity.

[Anonymous No.4691349]

>>4690999
Orwell was a disgusting conservative

[Anonymous No.4691642]

bump

[Anonymous No.4691654]

B. Traven's works are some of the bst. Treasure of the Sierra Madre, etc.

[Anonymous No.4691789]

The Power Elite by C. Wright Mills
Proposed Roads to Freedom by Bertrand Russell
How to Change the World - Marx and Marxism by Hobsbawm

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/index.htm
http://www.marxists.org/archive/hilferding/index.htm
http://www.marxists.org/archive/mehring/index.htm
http://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/index.htm
http://www.marxists.org/archive/bax/index.htm

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>>4691349
but he wasn't

[Anonymous No.4692275]

>>4690967
Hey butterfly, can you hook me up with an ebook of this?

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>>4692275
As a matter of fact I can.

http://lib.freescienceengineering.org/view.php?id=273754

[Anonymous No.4692983]

>>4690813
>Proudhon

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>>4692957
Thanks.