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What literature should I read to learn about the world of Tradition?

>> No.4654463

>>4654460
Given that it is a vacuous concept, I think you should start with some social science methodology.

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>> No.4654467 [DELETED] 

>>4654463
>social science

Good.. Learn about critical theory.. Reject the traditional values that have allowed your ancestors genes to make it this far.. good..

>> No.4654468

>>4654463

>social
>science

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>> No.4654473

Evola gives a pretty good description of what the word Tradition with a capital T means, but he's a goddamn hack who believes in Atlantis and underwater aliens. Id say read some Oswald Spengler and move on.

>> No.4654475

Why, learn from the best literature of course, history!

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>> No.4654483

>>4654475
> you now realize that every great civilization in history rose peaked and then fell because it stayed away from its traditional values due to economic and technological advancements and the usurption of kings by plebs

>> No.4654485

>>4654483
Such is natural cycle of chaos and order anon.

I believe Thomas Jefferson is right in believing that a government needs to be rebelled again in a regular interval to keep being "fresh".

>> No.4654486

Sayyed Hossein Nasr is pretty good, his book "In Search of the Sacred" is supposed to deal specifically with the subject

Rene Guenon i hear wrote excellently on the subject as well in his "Crisis of the Modern World."

>> No.4654489

>>4654486
Didn't he convert to Islam? Lrl what a faggot

>> No.4654491

>>4654485
Thomas jefferson is a terrorist tea partyer extremist and needs to be sent to a reeducation camp along with you and all the other so called constitutionalists. You people make me physically sick.

>muh freedoms!
>muh lower taxes!!
>muh guns! Muh guns!!!

Go kill yourself you anti american SHIT

>> No.4654503

>>4654491
Well, at least he wasn't an anarchist
BAH GAWD

>> No.4654506

>>4654491
Nothing you even said made sense and I'm scared that I can't tell if you're actually a useful idiot retard commie, or
mocking double-think.

Given the hour and your probability of being british or aussie I'll assume the latter and cry myself to sleep anyway.

>> No.4654518

>>4654506
He's clearly sarcasming, my friend.

>> No.4654582

>>4654468
It seems to be what people call it.

>>4654467
Try some "instrumentalism," it is basically reactionary Hobbesian thought.

>> No.4654583

>>4654483
You now realise that "civilisation" is arbitrary post hoc rationalisation of themes you believe existed which didn't, and essentially anachronism writ large with a post-liberal post-1848 nationalist brush.

Enjoy your fantasies.

>> No.4654894

>>4654467
>allowed your ancestors genes to make it this far
>implying fucking needs tradition

>> No.4654905

Frithjof Schuon

>> No.4654907

>>4654491

>tfw during the golden age of democracy in Athens, income taxes did not exist & wealth disparity was still lower than it's ever been in any democracy in yurop or murrica

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>>4654460
/thread

>> No.4654922

>>4654463
>tradition
>vacuous concept

Western traditions has existed for over 2700 years. Social science has existed for 40 years.

>> No.4654936

>>4654909
>Hobsbawm
>so revisionist and apologist that even fellow leftists cringe at his embarrassing scholarship

Worship Stalin elsewhere

>> No.4654964

>>4654907
>muh slavery
>muh subjugation of women
>muh military

>> No.4655140

>>4654583
Edgy postnoderbists pls go.

>> No.4655148

>>4654894
>implying fertility isn't maximized when traditional values are adgered
>implying civilizational development isnt mainly determined by population growth

>> No.4655348

Evola

>> No.4655354

>>4654909
Hello my name is Hector and I was given this book as a intro course in cultural and idea history for my Mediacommunications programme.

I believed every ounce of what my teacher gave me, that is also why I will get a good job when I get my exam.

>> No.4655364 [DELETED] 

>>4654909
>Hobsbawm
Can the subversive Marxist Jews please leave?

>> No.4655368 [DELETED] 

>>4655364
Leave the jew shit out of here. It's the fast lane of getting any conservative literature and philsophy thread closed.

>> No.4655373

>>4655348
lol, no, unless you're interested in second-hand, cry-baby nonsense.

>> No.4656218

>>4655140
Actually its classical history of ideas you fucking cretin; one of the most conservative of the historiographical disciplines.

>> No.4656225

>>4654922
>Western traditions has existed for over 2700 years.
>>4654583
>You now realise that "civilisation" is arbitrary post hoc rationalisation of themes you believe existed which didn't, and essentially anachronism writ large with a post-liberal post-1848 nationalist brush.
>Enjoy your fantasies.

>> No.4656892

>>4654922
>Western traditions has existed for over 2700 years

Well that sure narrows it down.

>> No.4656920

>>4654460
that quote is balls.

A more apt analogy would be:

"Tradition is how you build a fire, what significance it has to you, and what you do around it. Traditions change with the times, but the fire doesn't"

Something like that.

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>>4654483
Not that simple.

>> No.4657029

>>4654485
Sure is working out well for Africa

>> No.4657040

>>4656974
You have no idea how much I want to read that book now that you've posted it

>> No.4657044

>>4656920
good thing you're not a professional quote maker or anything

>> No.4657218

>>4654922
>Karl Marx lived 40 years ago

what?

>> No.4657258

>>4654485
Ironic that Jefferson helped establish a republic with 200 years of uncontested succession.

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>>4657258
>tfw anon forgets the civil war

>> No.4657410

Confucius had a lot of really interesting things to say about tradition in my opinion. I remember reading one interaction he had with one of his students about how culture is what preserves the human spirit after death because what we work towards through culture and tradition stays with us etc.

>> No.4657439

>>4656218
#rekkt that philistine, yo

>> No.4657445

>>4657410
This.

The Analects has some really interesting commentary on the importance of ritual and tradition.

>> No.4657533

>>4657271
That's a different matter, the Confederacy weren't fighting to install someone else in the White House.

>> No.4657547

>>4657533
They were fighting for the right to enslave humans lel